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post #2851 of 2878 Old 10-10-2014, 08:21 AM
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Sony BDP-S470 Wireless Networking Question

Hey guys, thanks for reading. I tried reading up as much as I could about my question here on the forums before posting but I need help still so I appreciate it in advance.

My dad has a Sony BDP-S470 which does not have built in wireless capability, and he doesn't want a long cable running through the house so he's been using my PS3 to watch Netflix (that's all he uses it for).

I've been looking at Bridges/Gaming Adapters per some suggestions I've read on older threads on AVS, but unfortunately these devices are really hard to come by in 2014. I'm looking at an auction for the one that was recommended on eBay that ends in a few days if all else fails.

In the mean time, I have another idea that I need advice to know if it will work. I found my local computer store sells this nifty looking USB adapter by D-Link:
amazon.ca/D-Link-Wireless-Adapter-Cradle-DWA-160/dp/B00127OVHI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1412952527&sr=8-3&keywords=d-link+n600

The front of my BDP-S470 has a USB port and the specs on that adapter seem to agree with the research I did on my router (it's a NetGear R6250)
futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/netgear-netgear-wireless-n-dual-band-smart-wifi-router-r6250-r6250/10257123.aspx

TL;DR I've got
  • SONY BDP-S470
  • NETGEAR R6250 DUAL-BAND ROUTER
  • D-LINK N600 WIRELESS DUAL-BAND USB ADAPTER
Will it give my blu ray player wireless network connectivity to watch Netflix?


If not, should I continue trying to buy a Linksys Cisco WGA600N Gaming Adapter or what do you suggest?
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Hey guys, thanks for reading. I tried reading up as much as I could about my question here on the forums before posting but I need help still so I appreciate it in advance.

My dad has a Sony BDP-S470 which does not have built in wireless capability, and he doesn't want a long cable running through the house so he's been using my PS3 to watch Netflix (that's all he uses it for).

I've been looking at Bridges/Gaming Adapters per some suggestions I've read on older threads on AVS, but unfortunately these devices are really hard to come by in 2014. I'm looking at an auction for the one that was recommended on eBay that ends in a few days if all else fails.

In the mean time, I have another idea that I need advice to know if it will work. I found my local computer store sells this nifty looking USB adapter by D-Link:
amazon.ca/D-Link-Wireless-Adapter-Cradle-DWA-160/dp/B00127OVHI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1412952527&sr=8-3&keywords=d-link+n600

The front of my BDP-S470 has a USB port and the specs on that adapter seem to agree with the research I did on my router (it's a NetGear R6250)
futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/netgear-netgear-wireless-n-dual-band-smart-wifi-router-r6250-r6250/10257123.aspx

TL;DR I've got
  • SONY BDP-S470
  • NETGEAR R6250 DUAL-BAND ROUTER
  • D-LINK N600 WIRELESS DUAL-BAND USB ADAPTER
Will it give my blu ray player wireless network connectivity to watch Netflix?


If not, should I continue trying to buy a Linksys Cisco WGA600N Gaming Adapter or what do you suggest?
The manual for the BDP-S470 suggests only the proper Sony wireless LAN adapter will work. However, you should be able to pick up a fairly inexpensive wireless router that can be set up in "access point" mode. You would set up this "access point" near the player and connect it with a short network wire. The access point can then be programmed to communicate with your main wireless router wirelessly. In this way the player is operating in wired mode, and the access point handles the wireless chores. I've used Netgear products for this purpose (WG602, 606). Also ZyXel (NBG-419N). If there are other devices in the home theater, they should also be able to communicate wirelessly using the access point (probably up to 4 network connections on the box).

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The manual for the BDP-S470 suggests only the proper Sony wireless LAN adapter will work. However, you should be able to pick up a fairly inexpensive wireless router that can be set up in "access point" mode. You would set up this "access point" near the player and connect it with a short network wire. The access point can then be programmed to communicate with your main wireless router wirelessly. In this way the player is operating in wired mode, and the access point handles the wireless chores. I've used Netgear products for this purpose (WG602, 606). Also ZyXel (NBG-419N). If there are other devices in the home theater, they should also be able to communicate wirelessly using the access point (probably up to 4 network connections on the box).
I have a Linksys SRX200 router lying around. Will this work?

I'm researching Access Point setup right now since I've never done anything like that before but how exactly will it work?
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I have a Linksys SRX200 router lying around. Will this work?

I'm researching Access Point setup right now since I've never done anything like that before but how exactly will it work?
Only if it's on the DD-WRT or Tomato list, and you have a degree in computer science.

Honestly, it's much easier to just buy a cheap access point on amazon or a new player, like THIS. You can also get a used player with wifi for about $40 which will perform better than your 470, like the 3100.
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Only if it's on the DD-WRT or Tomato list, and you have a degree in computer science.

Honestly, it's much easier to just buy a cheap access point on amazon or a new player, like You can also get a used player with wifi for about $40 which will perform better than your 470, like the 3100.
You're damn right about it being easier. Thanks for the recommendation. I found a 3100 on eBay Canada for under 40 with all the shipping included.

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You're damn right about it being easier. Thanks for the recommendation. I found a 3100 on eBay Canada for under 40 with all the shipping included.

Cheers.
Well, if you do not care about a front display, and do not need any analog audio or video connections, and do not mind having cinavia running in the firmware, then it should serve your purpose.
The manual for the 3100 is here, in case you need one.

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Well, if you do not care about a front display, and do not need any analog audio or video connections, and do not mind having cinavia running in the firmware, then it should serve your purpose.
The manual for the 3100 is here, in case you need one.
Honestly man, I really don't. As long as my dad gets his Netflix and I get my PS3 back for video games, then everybody wins. I appreciate your help and your time writing out your comments. Thanks for the manual!
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Need some help on an issue I am having. I am guessing it has to do with an recent update to the 470. Not sure though.

Recently (3 months) purchase a new Vizio E480i to replace an older TV. The setup I have is Directv Genie and the Sony Blu-Ray S470 connecting (HDMI) to a Denon AVR-2307ci receiver then HDMI to the TV. When I set it up and tested everything worked (at least I am 99% I tested the Blu-Ray). Everything on the TV and receiver has been working fine up to now. Recently tried the Blu-Ray and I got a scrambled screen on the TV (Green and Pink). You could make out the screen. It would also change to resolution not right or no signal on TV. Checked cables and everything. I know the receiver did not update so the only change I can think of is a Blu-ray update. If it has the option it I have it set to auto update.

To test things here is what I have tried. I plugged the Bluray into another tv and it worked fine. I plugged the Bluray directly into the tv. It worked fine. I plugged the Bluray into the cable that runs from the tv to the receiver it works fine. The Directv still works through the receiver. I tried swapping the hdmi port on the receiver for the bluray player and Directv. No luck. The Bluray will no longer work through the receiver to the TV even though the Directv will. The cables are fine. The only device that can update or change is the Bluray.

When I did get it working plugged in direct it popped up with an update. I tried it to see if it would fix anything. No luck. It told me I was at M04.R.788 and I updated to M04.R.789.

So any thoughts on what I can try? I am thinking the receiver is getting old and an update to the BluRay is causing the issue. I do not want to upgrade the receiver if it is not necessary. What have been the updates to the Sony BluRay lately.
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Need some help on an issue I am having. I am guessing it has to do with an recent update to the 470. Not sure though.

Recently (3 months) purchase a new Vizio E480i to replace an older TV. The setup I have is Directv Genie and the Sony Blu-Ray S470 connecting (HDMI) to a Denon AVR-2307ci receiver then HDMI to the TV. When I set it up and tested everything worked (at least I am 99% I tested the Blu-Ray). Everything on the TV and receiver has been working fine up to now. Recently tried the Blu-Ray and I got a scrambled screen on the TV (Green and Pink). You could make out the screen. It would also change to resolution not right or no signal on TV. Checked cables and everything. I know the receiver did not update so the only change I can think of is a Blu-ray update. If it has the option it I have it set to auto update.

To test things here is what I have tried. I plugged the Bluray into another tv and it worked fine. I plugged the Bluray directly into the tv. It worked fine. I plugged the Bluray into the cable that runs from the tv to the receiver it works fine. The Directv still works through the receiver. I tried swapping the hdmi port on the receiver for the bluray player and Directv. No luck. The Bluray will no longer work through the receiver to the TV even though the Directv will. The cables are fine. The only device that can update or change is the Bluray.

When I did get it working plugged in direct it popped up with an update. I tried it to see if it would fix anything. No luck. It told me I was at M04.R.788 and I updated to M04.R.789.

So any thoughts on what I can try? I am thinking the receiver is getting old and an update to the BluRay is causing the issue. I do not want to upgrade the receiver if it is not necessary. What have been the updates to the Sony BluRay lately.

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Need some help on an issue I am having. I am guessing it has to do with an recent update to the 470. Not sure though.

Recently (3 months) purchase a new Vizio E480i to replace an older TV. The setup I have is Directv Genie and the Sony Blu-Ray S470 connecting (HDMI) to a Denon AVR-2307ci receiver then HDMI to the TV. When I set it up and tested everything worked (at least I am 99% I tested the Blu-Ray). Everything on the TV and receiver has been working fine up to now. Recently tried the Blu-Ray and I got a scrambled screen on the TV (Green and Pink). You could make out the screen. It would also change to resolution not right or no signal on TV. Checked cables and everything. I know the receiver did not update so the only change I can think of is a Blu-ray update. If it has the option it I have it set to auto update.

To test things here is what I have tried. I plugged the Bluray into another tv and it worked fine. I plugged the Bluray directly into the tv. It worked fine. I plugged the Bluray into the cable that runs from the tv to the receiver it works fine. The Directv still works through the receiver. I tried swapping the hdmi port on the receiver for the bluray player and Directv. No luck. The Bluray will no longer work through the receiver to the TV even though the Directv will. The cables are fine. The only device that can update or change is the Bluray.

When I did get it working plugged in direct it popped up with an update. I tried it to see if it would fix anything. No luck. It told me I was at M04.R.788 and I updated to M04.R.789.

So any thoughts on what I can try? I am thinking the receiver is getting old and an update to the BluRay is causing the issue. I do not want to upgrade the receiver if it is not necessary. What have been the updates to the Sony BluRay lately.
Just my 2ยข. The 370/470 series is OLD. The "smart" apps like Netflix etc. are easier to access, now, via smart TV Panel or something like a $35 Chromecast stick. A new Blueray seems to be well under $70 - maybe under $50. We only use the Sony BR player a few times a year since we now do most watching via steaming.
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Netflix newest update available on BDP-S470?

I have Netflix on various other devices in my house (newer devices) and the "version" and interface for Netflix is much newer than the one that is on my BDP-S470. I know the 470 is a few years old at this point; anyone know any way to get the newer Netflx interface/version on this blu-ray player? It has much better features (rewind/ff that you can see what is advancing/rewinding; profiles, etc.), and my blu-ray player is completely "updated" according to the network update on the player...

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I have Netflix on various other devices in my house (newer devices) and the "version" and interface for Netflix is much newer than the one that is on my BDP-S470. I know the 470 is a few years old at this point; anyone know any way to get the newer Netflx interface/version on this blu-ray player? It has much better features (rewind/ff that you can see what is advancing/rewinding; profiles, etc.), and my blu-ray player is completely "updated" according to the network update on the player...

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Here's how: set a Roku on top of it.

Seriously though, the 470 is never going to get an updated Netflix app. Time to relieve it from Netflix duty and use the various other devices you have or get another cheap device like the $20 Fire Stick. Planned obsolescence is how consumer electronics companies stay in business. And the 470 became obsolete, for Netflix at least, a long time ago.
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Here's how: set a Roku on top of it.

Seriously though, the 470 is never going to get an updated Netflix app. Time to relieve it from Netflix duty and use the various other devices you have or get another cheap device like the $20 Fire Stick. Planned obsolescence is how consumer electronics companies stay in business. And the 470 became obsolete, for Netflix at least, a long time ago.
Agree w. above post. We haven't used our 370 for Netflix in well over a year. Started using Chromecast when it first came out. We now have a Panny plasma smart TV in one location that has Netflix "built-in" (among many other sources) and it has Netflix controls built in to its remote!
In the other location we simply use a Chromecast and cast Netflix from laptop or phone or tablet -- whatever is handy.

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Here's how: set a Roku on top of it.

Seriously though, the 470 is never going to get an updated Netflix app. Time to relieve it from Netflix duty and use the various other devices you have or get another cheap device like the $20 Fire Stick. Planned obsolescence is how consumer electronics companies stay in business. And the 470 became obsolete, for Netflix at least, a long time ago.
Agree w. above post. We haven't used our 370 for Netflix in well over a year. Started using Chromecast when it first came out. We now have a Panny plasma smart TV in one location that has Netflix "built-in" (among many other sources) and it has Netflix controls built in to its remote!
In the other location we simply use a Chromecast and cast Netflix from laptop or phone or tablet -- whatever is handy.

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New firmware update for the BDP-S370:

M03.R.804
7 January 2015

http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/con...3r804/BDP-S370
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New firmware update for the BDP-S370:

M03.R.804
7 January 2015

http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/con...3r804/BDP-S370
Doesn't the box "grab" any updates that come along automatically? Wouldn't the link you posted just be useful for users i the UK - or would they benefit all users?
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Not every blu-ray player is connected to the internet, so some might need to update manually. The link is the Sony's UK site (no point in listing them all), but the update is available for other countries - best to visit your own country's/region's website to grab the update though if doing it manually.

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The update is just security related:
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Improvements over firmware version M03.R.794:
  • Resolves SSL security issue

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WiFi Adapter UWA-BR100 - Suddenly Low Signal Strength

I have been using the Sony WiFi Adapter UWA-BR100 connected to my Sony model BDP-S470 Blu-Ray player for four years and have always had 100% signal strength. Recently, after having the wifi connection fail several times, I found the signal running between 5% & 18%. No changes were made in my router or modem and there have been no recent software updates to any equipment. Connecting adapter to my TV also gave the same results. The built in wifi in the TV shows 100%.

Do these adapters just go bad after a period of time or is there something else I missed?
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I would tend to think something fried on the adapter, possibly an RF amp. Or whatever it uses for an antenna somehow became disconnected or damaged.

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Be aware than you can buy a least 3 entire brand new wifi BD players far better than your old 470 for the price of a single replacement dongle. Alternately you can get an wifi bridge or gaming adapter for your old player for about $20.
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The recent BD of "The Maze Runner" has a major issue with the 370/470. You must disconnect your BD player from the network (unplug Ethernet cable or remove USB wireless dongle) or the movie will freeze and stutter after a few seconds of playing.

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As of April 20, 2015, the YouTube app will no longer work due to changes made by Google.

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New firmware update for the BDP-S370:
M03.R.804 7 January 2015
http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/con...3r804/BDP-S370
"Restrictions: only for use with Blu-ray players sold in Europe. Not all models are sold in all countries." There is a link for the US version:
http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/swu-do...&os_group_id=5

Just a public service announcement regarding Sony BDP players at this point. I have written at great length in the BDP-S560 and even some in this thread about the dangers of Sony's AUTO-UPDATE being left on and installing any of their Firmware via the Internet worst of all via WI-FI, but not any safer to use their "recommened" method via Ethernet either.
The first question to ask is do I even need an update? If it isn't broken don't risk it!

If you feel like you are in for a penny in for a pound so you might as well update for $#i+$ and giggles...
The best and safest method is to have them send you the disc - $16.00 is a pretty effing steep gouge. Would be nice if a few of you could split the cost lol - IDK if they will willingly do this for most people anymore or not nvrmind it's $16 bucks out of warranty cost. At the very least downloading and doing an md5 checksum verification (if still provided) before burning to a CD is a far better method than the internet.
It's true that these are older Blu-ray players but there are things like the Analog Loop hole that make older Blu-ray players a very desirable thing. Often cost cutting race to the bottom newer Blu-ray players don't last as long as some of these earlier models do and if it isn't broken it's silly to risk creating a brick that Sony will do nothing to fix on a bad update download/install.

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2 issues I had been meaning to post about...

Does anyone know when & how CinemaNow app was removed? I had it set up and then a few years ago? it just wasn't there anymore. I thought maybe it was a mushroom induced hallucination the only problem is with that theory... you guessed it; I've never taken a hallucinogen --> corny humor attempt. And I wrote it out in real world analogish type paper all the apps it had when I first got it so I know it was there.

Another Issue - "Someone I know" ;-) recently tried to play several "archival back-ups" of DVDs they own on my Sony BDP-S370. "They told me" the software used for these "personal back-ups" was DVD-Shrink. At some point (IDK if it's always the same point in each movie) but just that so far each movie has had some point where the "archive" stops being played by the S370.
Unfortunately, it wasn't something I've tested out recently so I can't remember if it stops the player all together (like a lock up situation) or if it returns it to the disc menu. I do remember getting going again and skipping chapters to try to resume playback only to have it happen again. Initially I suspected the fault lay with DVD-Shrink (btw the discs are scratch free) but after testing the discs with 100% full playback success on two Samsung HTIB systems, I realized the problem (happening on each and every single archive back up & happening every single time NO ARCHIVE DVD makes it through without this problem - almost *cough* like *cough* Cinavia Lite *cough* just without the error/warning message) lies solely with the Sony S370. Wondering if anyone else encountered this. I DO NOT have the latest firmware in fact it should be 3 years or so since I risked that (shortly after a "Successful" Sony update took my BDP-S560 from a Blu-ray tank to a 50/50 unreliable P.O.S. I was lucky bc it was under warranty so I only had to shell out shipping costs which were about ~$18 to Laredo TX. If not under warranty it would have been $120+ for them to reflash with the same $#itty firmware that caused the problems in the first place not the rock solid firmware I was using before. It operates successfully on about 90% of Blu-rays now.)

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Help.

I'm having a problem on my BDP-S370 (even with the M03.R.804 current firmware!) where whenever I jump to another point on a DVD disc, I lose about 0.4 seconds of audio when normal playback resumes. Also, fast-forward or fast-reverse can sometimes cause the screen on my Sony KDL-40EX500 to go black, a sign of an HDMI handshake problem. It should be noted the problems don't normally occur with Blu-ray discs.

Should I consider replacing the HDMI cable with a newer one that has full HDMI 1.4a support and see if that helps?

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Help.

I'm having a problem on my BDP-S370 (even with the M03.R.804 current firmware!) where whenever I jump to another point on a DVD disc, I lose about 0.4 seconds of audio when normal playback resumes. Also, fast-forward or fast-reverse can sometimes cause the screen on my Sony KDL-40EX500 to go black, a sign of an HDMI handshake problem. It should be noted the problems don't normally occur with Blu-ray discs.

Should I consider replacing the HDMI cable with a newer one that has full HDMI 1.4a support and see if that helps?
I don't know that 1.4a support should be an issue, but you could be having a hdmi connection problem. I'd start by removing and reinserting the hdmi cable - even swap it around between the player and the receiver/tv. Try a different cable. Try connecting to a different hdmi input. Some of this might solidify your hdmi connection or identify what is marginal or failing.

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Rich86, a number of people think the HDMI cable between my player and the TV may be going bad. I may take out the old cable and put in a modern HDMI 1.4a certified cable and see if that helps, then I may try the side-mounted HDMI 2 and 3 connections on the TV and see if that also helps.

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