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I just received a Toshiba BDX2700 from buy.com and wanted
to start an Official Owners thread to discuss it.

This thing is a far cry from my Toshiba HD-XA2 and OPPO BDP83
as far as build quality and weight is concerned but I wasn't
expecting anything substantial.

I'll fire it up and see what it does with Blu-ray and DVD and
report back.

Also, the following streaming services are available:
Netflix®, BLOCKBUSTER On Demand®, VUDU™, Pandora® Internet Radio
for those interested.

Home Theater Review:
http://hometheatermag.com/discplayer...yer/index.html

BDX2500 Specification sheet
http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/tacpasse...x2500_spec.pdf

BDX2700 Specification sheet
http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/tacpasse...x2700_spec.pdf

BDX2700 Owners Manual
http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/tacpasse...x2700_om_e.pdf

Detailed Specs.
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Playable Disc Types: Blu-ray Disc/BD-ROM/BD-R/BD-RE/DVD-Video/DVD-R/DVD-RW/CD/CD-R/CD-RW/CD-DA

Video Upconversion: 720p/1080i/1080p/1080p-24fps

Digital Cinema Progressive (3:2 Pulldown)

Multi-Camera Angle Select

Multi-Language Select

Multi-Subtitle Select

Deep Color

AVCHD Playback


Audio
Dolby® Digital and DTS® Compatible Output

Dolby® Digital Plus

Dolby® TrueHD

Support for DTS®-HD Master Audio | Essential™

WMA & MP3 Playback


Convenience
Wi-Fi® Ready (Wireless LAN)

Streaming Services: Netflix®, BLOCKBUSTER On Demand®, VUDU™, Pandora® Internet Radio

BD-Live™ (Profile 2.0)

Bonus View™

HDMI®-CEC

Remote Control

Screen Saver

Tray Lock

OSD Language: English/French/Spanish


Jackpacks
HDMI®-CEC

ColorStream Pro® Component Video Output

S-Video

RCA Video (1)

L-R Audio (1)

Analog 2ch Audio

Analog 7.1ch Audio

Digital Optical Output

SD Card (with SDHC) (1)

Ethernet Port


Weights and Dimensions
Weight With Stand: 3.85 lbs.

Dimensions With Stand: 16.93 x 2.52 x 8.27 (WxHxD)

Weight With Packaging: 5.72 lbs.

Dimensions With Packaging: 19.49 x 4.53 x 19.49 (WxHxD)

The BDX2500 and BDX2700 seem to be are very similar. The only
differences are, the latter has built in Wi-Fi and 4 round pegs at
the bottom of the unit. Both players lack 1gb of internal memory
for BD-Live.

Another difference: Blu-ray logo on front display lights up when
Wi-Fi is activated on BDX-2700.

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Here are some pictures and initial impressions.

Home Menu Screen


Players Front(on top of OPPO)


Remote control(glossy black) non backlit - plastic


I really enjoy the Home Menu screen. It is very easy
to understand and navigate. There was a quick set-up
procedure upon initial start-up(that can be bypassed)
that asked the following:

- OSD language setup
- Resolution
- TV aspect

This player came with firmware verison 1.11 and after
setting up the wireless connection which was a breeze,
it quickly notified me of an update, which I promptly
upgraded to within a matter of minutes to version 1.12.

I loaded Avatar(Blu-ray) and it took about 2 minutes
to load to the 20th Century Fox screen.

Blu-ray @ 1080p looks wonderful as all players do.

When loading Avatar I could hear the drive loading
from my seating distance of 9 feet.
No noise was heard during playback though.

Still evaluating - more info to come.

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Thank you so much! Please post all info on your opinion of this player, including std def dvd pq. My BD-UP5000 just died on me, so I'm thinking of pulling my old HD-A3 out and buying a BDX2500 to accompany it, but there are NO reviews of these players yet! I might grab one this weekend if I hear good things. Thanks again!

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I'll give standard def a try later today and see how it stacks
up against my OPPO and XA2. I'm going to guess it won't be
as good as the two I mentioned.

Also, I'll put it through a variety of tests that are available
from the Spears & Munsil Blu-ray disc.

I'll post my findings as soon as I can.

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Something else worth mentioning is there is a picture
adjustment button on the remote similar to what was
available on the XA2 so you can adjust the picture to
your liking.

- EPM(Enhanced Picture Mode)
- Sharpness

In the manual is states EPM makes the picture sharper
with enhanced color. I played with this setting briefly,
and to my eyes it seemed to manipulate the displays
color temperature.

The sharpness setting was nothing more than an edge
enhancement adustment that was available in 5 increments:

- Default
- Low
- Medium
- High
- Ultra

Default provided no edge enhancement at all.

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Cool, keep the info coming and thanks for being willing to share your findings!

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I would be curious about the netflix on it. is it good like the panasonic 65/85 or crappy like the sony 370 or insignia?

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I would be curious about the netflix on it. is it good like the panasonic 65/85 or crappy like the sony 370 or insignia?

Jacob

When you say crappy are you talking about the Interface or the quality of the movie being streamed?
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How's the the video quality of Netflix? I also want to know if you can search for movies/shows via Netflix, or can you only choose from you que? I just sold my Panny BD35 to get a BD65, but I also own a XA2 and wouldn't mind having 2 Toshiba players stacked and connected to my Pioneer VSX-1014AH-K

I also want to know about the stream quality and user interface.
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quality of the movie being streamed

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The quality of the movie being streamed depends a lot on your Internet Connection. What I don't like is the User Interface for Netflix on the TOSHIBA. It just plain WHITE with pictures of the movies available & a small description. (Which can be those in your queue or you can pick by category) I guess I'm spoiled by the Netflix User Interface from my XBOX 360

I streamed the same movie from both devices & saw no visual difference. I own the BDX2500
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I have a fine internet connection.. because the netflix on the roku and the ps3 worked fine. it did not work well with the sony player. check the sony player links for more details about people having problems with the player.

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BFJ 96 and petmic10, would you say you are happy with your purchase and would you suggest it to someone else? Or would you say to get a different player? I'm not really planning on using much of the connectivity stuff. Just blu-ray and std def movies. I want to bitstream the audio out via hdmi to my receiver and let it decode the audio. Can either of you confirm that it can bitstream out all audio types?

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How's the the video quality of Netflix? I also want to know if you can search for movies/shows via Netflix, or can you only choose from you que? I just sold my Panny BD35 to get a BD65, but I also own a XA2 and wouldn't mind having 2 Toshiba players stacked and connected to my Pioneer VSX-1014AH-K

I also want to know about the stream quality and user interface.

I'm currently streaming District 9 from Netflix and it looks okay
on my Pioneer 60" Elite. I wouldn't brag about the quality but
it is watchable. I'd have to watch a few more movies before
I can make a definitive assessment.

You can view movies from your que and from every movie category
too. I wanted to post some pics of the Netflix screen tonight but
for some reason I'm having trouble accessing my Photobucket account.

Also, I ran some tests from the Spears & Munsil disc to check
how well the player is at de-interlacing and upscaling and with 1080i
material it did rather well but with 480i material there was some moire'
in the stands during the race car test but once it locked on everything
looked fine. It wasn't in the same league as the OPPO or XA2 but it
was decent nonetheless. I watched some Harry Potter(Goblet of Fire)
on dvd and was totally satisfied with the PQ.

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BFJ 96 and petmic10, would you say you are happy with your purchase and would you suggest it to someone else? Or would you say to get a different player? I'm not really planning on using much of the connectivity stuff. Just blu-ray and std def movies. I want to bitstream the audio out via hdmi to my receiver and let it decode the audio. Can either of you confirm that it can bitstream out all audio types?

-Sean

Hi Sean,

So far, after a day I like this player but it still too soon to make a
complete assessment. Blu-ray performance is superb as expected
and I would say std def is slightly above average, so far. I need
to spend more time with it before I can give a final determination.

Powering up the unit by pushing the Open/Close disc tray
button took about 12 seconds for the tray to open. It's
not a big deal but players from other mfg's do in much less time.
Avator(Blu-ray) took about 2 minutes to load to the 20th
Century Fox screen. I want to check a few more discs to
see how quick/slow this machine is.

Yes, the Toshiba can bitstream or internally decode all the hi-def
audio.

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Blu-ray player: OPPO BDP-93, Sony BDP-S1000ES
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Here are some pictures of the Netflix screen. Sorry for the crappy
pictures.

New Arrivals Screen


Instant Que Screen

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Sweet, thanks! I might have to grab one today, I'm generally a huge fan of samsung products, but read bad things about the C5500. So, its more or less a toss up between the BDX2500 and Panasonic's DMP-BD65.

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BFJ 96 and petmic10, would you say you are happy with your purchase and would you suggest it to someone else? Or would you say to get a different player? I'm not really planning on using much of the connectivity stuff. Just blu-ray and std def movies. I want to bitstream the audio out via hdmi to my receiver and let it decode the audio. Can either of you confirm that it can bitstream out all audio types?

-Sean

My purchase of this player was based on matching it with my TOSHIBA 670U LED LCD. So far I'm happy with my purchase & YES for the price I would recommend this player to family friends.

As for bitstreaming audio the TOSHIBA does a great job @ bitstreaming. The TOSHIBA also offers different bitstreaming options in the Player Menu. I believe there's 3 options. 2 being:

Bitstream HD
Bitstream Legacy

Don't remember the final option. Also Sean right now TOSHIBA is offering
instant $30.00 rebates on both the 2500 & 2700
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Another thing worth mentioning is most changes cannot
be made on the fly except for the audio codec. The movie
has to be stopped to change any settings, like resolution,
deep color or film mode(1080p/24).

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As for bitstreaming audio the TOSHIBA does a great job @ bitstreaming. The TOSHIBA also offers different bitstreaming options in the Player Menu. I believe there's 3 options. 2 being:

Bitstream HD
Bitstream Legacy

Yes, that is two of them. The other one is: Bitstream Mixed


There are 6 Digital Output options total.

PCM stereo
Bitstream HD
Bitstream Legacy
Bitstream Mixed
PCM 5.1
PCM 7.1

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Also, there is no way of knowing what resolution is
being output. There is nothing on the front display
that states this and there is only minimal information
when pressing the info button on the remote during
playback, such as, title, chapter, total movie and
elapsed time.

No audio codec or video resolution info whatsoever.

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hiya! im curious about the BDX2700.
how's the SD DVD upconversion compared to the previous player. and does any of the upconverting resemble any of toshiba's HD players?
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Picked up the 2500 last night, its pretty nice. I deff agree on the cheap feeling about it, but the samsung, lg, sony, panasonic, etc. where all just as cheap feeling at Best Buy, so maybe its just how the companies are doing it now that the prices have fallen. I've just watched a couple blu-rays, I havn't thrown a std def in there yet. Pandora worked nicely.

Anyone know what the difference between the 3 Bitstreams are? Currently I'm using Bitstream HD, I'm sure if I just read the manual it would tell me, but I'm lazy. Thanks!

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Picked up the 2500 last night, its pretty nice. I deff agree on the cheap feeling about it, but the samsung, lg, sony, panasonic, etc. where all just as cheap feeling at Best Buy, so maybe its just how the companies are doing it now that the prices have fallen. I've just watched a couple blu-rays, I havn't thrown a std def in there yet. Pandora worked nicely.

Anyone know what the difference between the 3 Bitstreams are? Currently I'm using Bitstream HD, I'm sure if I just read the manual it would tell me, but I'm lazy. Thanks!

-Sean

Bitstream HD: The player sends True HD or DTS HD MA over hdmi
to a capable receiver were the signal is decoded at the receiver.

Bitstream Legacy: Sends DTS or Dolby Digital bitstream from
the disc over hdmi or optical connections.(No PIP audio) Only movie
audio is heard.

Bitstream Mixed: Sends a mixed DTS audio stream mainly used
for PIP and movie audio.

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hiya! im curious about the BDX2700.
how's the SD DVD upconversion compared to the previous player. and does any of the upconverting resemble any of toshiba's HD players?

So far, SD upconversion is just average. It's definately not near the
quality of the Toshiba XA2 but I wasn't expecting stellar upconversion
at this price point.

On the Spears & Munsil disc, I used the race car test, were a race
car speeds across the track and the stands in the background are
supposed stay solid without any moire', but at the very beginning
of the clip moire' is clearly visible and the Toshiba takes about a
second to lock on the cadence. Once it does it stays solid.

But Blu-ray looks fantastic, it's Wi-Fi and it offers plenty of
streaming capabilities. I think Toshiba can compete with
similar players in this category.

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Bitstream HD: The player sends True HD or DTS HD MA over hdmi
to a capable receiver were the signal is decoded at the receiver.

Bitstream Legacy: Sends DTS or Dolby Digital bitstream from
the disc over hdmi or optical connections.(No PIP audio) Only movie
audio is heard.

Bitstream Mixed: Sends a mixed DTS audio stream mainly used
for PIP and movie audio.

Ok, thanks, Bitstream HD is what I'll keep it on.

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I'm interested with this players 7.1 analog outputs. Is it easy to set up in the menus, speaker setup? etc. Does it output Dolby TruHD, DTS HD?

Thanks,
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I'm interested with this players 7.1 analog outputs. Is it easy to set up in the menus, speaker setup? etc. Does it output Dolby TruHD, DTS HD?

Thanks,
Rob

Very simple and easy.

The speakers can only be set to Small or Large and they cannot
be mismatched.

For example, if the front left speaker is set to small, the front
right speaker automatically is set to small and the center speaker
can only be set to small or off and this applies to all rear speakers
too.

The subwoofer has 4 crossover settings; 80hz, 100hz, 120hz and Off.

There are 3 audio tests available; Pink, 1kHz sine and white.

Display: Pioneer PRO-151 60" Elite
Blu-ray player: OPPO BDP-93, Sony BDP-S1000ES
Processor: Onkyo PR-SC885
Amplifier: Emotiva IPS-1 150Wx7
Game Console: Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS4
Speakers: Mythos ST(Fronts), Mythos Ten(Center), Mythos One(Rears)
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I'm interested with this players 7.1 analog outputs. Is it easy to set up in the menus, speaker setup? etc. Does it output Dolby TruHD, DTS HD?

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As far as the spec sheet is concerned it will internally decode
Dolby True HD and DTS HD MA.

I haven't tried the analogs so I can't say for certain.

Display: Pioneer PRO-151 60" Elite
Blu-ray player: OPPO BDP-93, Sony BDP-S1000ES
Processor: Onkyo PR-SC885
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Speakers: Mythos ST(Fronts), Mythos Ten(Center), Mythos One(Rears)
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Bummer. Neither appears to have the XDE upscaling feature of their DVD players. More Funai clones I suppose.
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