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post #1 of 17 Old 07-15-2010, 10:27 AM - Thread Starter
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XI'm currently wishing for a specific stand-alone blu-ray player.

One that has these apps:

Netflix
Amazon
Hulu plus
YouTube

Seems like many players have some but not all of them. Hulu-plus being the major absent one, as it's only currently offered in Samsung stand-alones. Their site says LG and Sony this fall, but no info yet on which models will get that update.

A 3D player with all of these apps would be nice as well.
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What u need is a PC blu ray player
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The Hulu plus is new, so I'm not surprised that the others don't have it -- yet.

Give it a few months, and it looks like they all will. Sony, for example, had some delay in having Pandora, but now it is available with a firmware update on my N460 that did not have it originally.
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It looks like the Samsung 3D players, including the newer (and less expensive) C5900 and C6800, should have all of the above and more, and what looks like the most frequent app additions.

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It looks like the Samsung 3D players, including the newer (and less expensive) C5900 and C6800, should have all of the above and more, and what looks like the most frequent app additions.

Yeah, it looks like "3D" is critical for determining whether a Samsung BD player will get Hulu Plus (or Cinema Now, or FaceBook), as indicated on this Samsung web page: samsung.com/us/samsungapps/Samsung_Apps.pdf

Several of us have attempted to determine whether the BD-C5500 (which is not 3D, and is much cheaper) will get Hulu Plus. We get inconsistent and conflicting results from chat sessions with Samsung -- See the Official BD-C5500 forum for gory details. But I think the linked chart tells the story, which is sad for me since I don't want the 3D and other bells and whistles that make the 3D models more expensive.

Apparently there's some critical capability, needed to support these three additional apps, that is only present in the 3D models.
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but still a valid question. Content and streaming apps are major consideration:

Must have:
Netflix- really want to be able to browse movies- NOT just instant que.
Pandora
Good wireless N support

Really want:
Hulu Plus

Dont care: 3D support is a non-issue.


Stuck between the following players:
LG BD570- seems to be middling performance with many "minor" issues but least # of deal breakers
Sony BDP-S570- poor wireless performance makes me nervous (DLNA support is no worry)
Samsung BD-6500- seems like it's NOT getting Hulu Plus
Panasonic DMP-BD85K- worst interface but seems to be least buggy unit with very good upconversion and playback

I wish somebody had a Netflix interface like the Roku- any of the above approach the Roku interface?

I am thinking Sony S570 with the hope the wireless is good enough.

Anybody have a strong opinion on app vs app by manufacturer?
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if you want netflix.. I would go with the panasonic 85. it has the best one from my experience.. certainly better then the sony player. that or get a ps3.

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Is it better to stream from the bd player or with Roku when it comes to options and choices and when it comes to PQ and SQ are there any differences? I have the Pioneer Elite bdp-23FD and not sure if I can stream Netflix and the other online companies with it.
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Is it better to stream from the bd player or with Roku when it comes to options and choices and when it comes to PQ and SQ are there any differences? I have the Pioneer Elite bdp-23FD and not sure if I can stream Netflix and the other online companies with it.

I just bought the Sony BDP-S470. While I do not have the Roku, the reviews pretty consistently say the Sony has better picture quality, as it is an amazing upconverting player. There is a problem sound being downconverted from 5.1 to 2.0 on Amazon HD, but this problem apparently does not affect Netflix. It steams all of the content listed in the OP of this thread, plus a lot more. That said, it only allows you to watch content on Netflix from you queue, while the Roku apparently allows you to access other content.
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I just bought the Sony BDP-S470. While I do not have the Roku, the reviews pretty consistently say the Sony has better picture quality, as it is an amazing upconverting player. There is a problem sound being downconverted from 5.1 to 2.0 on Amazon HD, but this problem apparently does not affect Netflix. It steams all of the content listed in the OP of this thread, plus a lot more. That said, it only allows you to watch content on Netflix from you queue, while the Roku apparently allows you to access other content.

I have the BDP-S370 which is almost same as 470 without 3D. To get 5.1 audio from Amazon VOD, you have to go to Audio Settings ->BD Audio Mix Setting to off (by default its on). What you are doing is, you are telling the player to bitstream everything and not decode to PCM.
Also to OP, I think sony BDP-S*70 would meet all your need except for netflix browsing feature. This also has BD remote app in iPhone, through which typing is lot easer.. useful for youtube app.
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Spotty wireless scared me...

But the Sony already won hands down with Hulu Plus & Netflix & Amazon VOD plus well established upconverting sealed the deal.

I bought the Sony BDP-S370, very affordable for what's offered and yopu don't pay for the poorly reviewed wireless. I could care less about 3D, so seems like perfect BD player.

Since the wireless was a deal breaker I will likely spend 3 hours with my fish tape getting the ethernet cable from the crawlspace upstairs through two walls. But at least then I know I have a solid connection to my router, plus DLNA wired seems to run a little but better for some people.

Thanks for everyone's input.
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I've been reading reviews and threads on specific players and I can't seem to find any players with built in wifi that don't have hundreds of people complaining about connectivity issues and poor streaming performance. Are there any players that do this well, or is this just the state of the technology right now? I want to ditch my noisy "htpc" (really an ugly old tower sitting in living room), but want something with good performance. So far I can't seem to find anything that I feel comfortable buying based on user reviews. I think it would be a good idea to start an "official" thread discussing the pros and cons of the streaming capabilities of different players.

(I hope this doesn't get pushed to the "what player to buy section" because I really want to start a conversation about comparing the streaming ability of different players since I can't seem to find that information very easily and think it's an important topic given the state of the market and increasing importance of these features in new players. Also, before I get blasted, I used the search function and can't seem to find significant thread that talks specifically about this issue although it seems like there should be.)
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LG BD670

Has the new Netflix interface and great premium apps (Pandora, Cinemanow, VUDU, and it's getting Amazon VOD and Hulu Plus soon as well as some LG TV apps), and it can stream DivX HD videos from your PC (such as MKV, AVI, MP4, etc...). If you want a Blu-ray player that can handle all of your streaming needs, I really can't think of a better alternative.
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I hate to post yet another "What is the best Blu-ray player' thread, but I think I have a different issue.

I have an ONKYO TX-SR706 receiver and among other things am running a ROKU player via HDMI.

I use the ROKU player to stream Netflix and Pandora through my 5.1 setup. Until recently, the ROKU was working flawlessly. Recently, when I try to use the ROKU, all I get is big 65" GREEN SCREEN.

I've tried another proven HDMI cable and other proven HDMI ports on the ONKYO. Nothing but GREEN. The ROKU does work when I plug directly into the TV, but the sound (of course) is coming through the TV.

I searched www.ROKU.com and found a HUGE discussion (which I joined) on the GREEN SCREEN issue. They seem to be blaming ONKYO receivers. They claim their engineers are working night and day on the issue.

Rather than buy a new (improved) ROKU for $80-$100, I thought I would just upgrade my Blu-ray player to one that has built in WiFi and streams Netflix and Pandora.

Any suggestions for a 2D WiFi ready Blu-ray player?

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I think the issue with roku is they likely used an early standard of hdmi, that may not be compatible with onkyo receivers then again it could happen on multiple brands besides onkyo..

to be honest I wouldn't bother about app support so much because you internet connection will primarily govern the content you watch, 1080i and 1080p may only be possible on a 1gb or better internet connection, though once you look at 6-7 room per home you may need more than a 1gb connection, you might get by with 100mb on a home lan/wlan though the backbone outside the needs to be pretty fast, I can't see 24mb connections catering for that bandwidth intense dtv/on demand service past 1 unit..

personally i'd like to see old cable stu's modified with fibre lan cards
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What you need is a media player.
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Rather than buy a new (improved) ROKU for $80-$100, I thought I would just upgrade my Blu-ray player to one that has built in WiFi and streams Netflix and Pandora.

Any suggestions for a 2D WiFi ready Blu-ray player?

Everybody makes a wifi netflix/pandora player. Take your pick. Panasonic is the best bang for the buck IMO and has a better netflix interface than most (including search, genres, queue management, Dolby 5.1 and subtitles). Most new players are 3D, so there's no getting around that. Wifi-ready is meaningless IMO, but the wired Panasonic 110 has a street price of about $120 and has an Avatar 3D disc you can sell on ebay for around $100. The wifi 210 is about $30 more, which is cheaper than any wifi-ready plus some expensive proprietary dongle, bridge or gaming adapter.

But getting back to the subject of the thread, panasonic definitely doesn't have the most or best streaming content. They only have a small fraction of what a sony, LG or roku have, and don't have Hulu.
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