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I read with HDTV's it doesn't matter if your player supports PAL or not(I live in America). I just bought a Panasonic DMP-BD65 blu ray player. I haven't bought a HDTV yet. I read in some articles that the DMP-BD65 doesn't support Pal. So which do I believe? I have some Pal movies.
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PAL is what most other countries outside of North America, most countries in South America, Burma, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, and the Philippines use. That's only when it comes to Analog signals, digital I don't think it really matters.

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I read with HDTV's it doesn't matter if your player supports PAL or not(I live in America). I just bought a Panasonic DMP-BD65 blu ray player. I haven't bought a HDTV yet. I read in some articles that the DMP-BD65 doesn't support Pal. So which do I believe? I have some Pal movies.

These days people use "PAL" as a shorthand for 50hz. That's not quite right, but good enough for now.

If a player does not support PAL then you will not be playing PAL DVDs on it, or 50hz features and supplements that can occur on import Blu-rays.

If your player does support PAL you must still have a way to play region locked DVDs and Blu-rays. I don't know the story on this for the Panasonic.

If the HDTV does not support 50hz input, then the player must convert 50hz to 60hz. According to the list in this post, other Panasonic players have not done this, but I don't know about your model: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post15765041

Some HDTVs accept 50hz and some don't. In the past I found it very hard to find out by looking at the specs because the North American market has no notion of what that means.

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So I need to look for a player that converts 50hz to 60hz? The TV I am getting is LG pk550 and I have no idea if it does Pal.
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So I need to look for a player that converts 50hz to 60hz? The TV I am getting is LG pk550 and I have no idea if it does Pal.

Is there a thread for that TV here? I would ask there if it supports 50hz input. Many do.

If it doesn't, then yes you need a player that can convert 50hz to 60hz. Presuming the obstacles of region coding have been handled first.

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Would you advise against playing a Region Free PAL Blu-Ray disc in a Region A NTSC player? If so, why?

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Would you advise against playing a Region Free PAL Blu-Ray disc in a Region A NTSC player? If so, why?

What could be the harm? If the player accepts 50hz input and produces 60hz output, or 50hz output and your display accepts that, you can watch the movie.

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Almost all Blu-Ray movies are 1080p/24 regardless of whether they are coming from PAL or NTSC countries. Concerts and some made-for-TV material may be different though. So any non-region-locked Blu-Ray movie should play the same on any Blu-Ray player anywhere in the world. As was mentioned, extras on the disc may be in standard definition and this would be PAL-encoded if the Blu-Ray disc were intended for sale in PAL countries. As more and more countries convert to digital broadcasting and more supplements get converted to HD, PAL (and NTSC) should gradually disappear, though this may still be years away.

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50Hz countries still broadcast in 50i SD or HD. Supplements in HD could still be 1080i50 or 720p50.

It's not only the extras you watch afterwards but menus and trailers that start playing on loading could be 50i in some European discs. Many people with US PS3s had trouble getting past these to load the movie at all.

Back to the question is there any harm, frame-rate conversion could have motion artefacts from frame interpolation. For the purists and anyone demanding best quality it is to be avoided if possible. People who import from 50Hz countries are best served by having all the playback equipment that fully supports 50i natively.

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If the player accepts 50hz input and produces 60hz output, or 50hz output and your display accepts that, you can watch the movie.
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How would I find that out? Read the manuals?

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If the player accepts 50hz input and produces 60hz output, or 50hz output and your display accepts that, you can watch the movie.
-Bill

How would I find that out? Read the manuals?

Yes, or if you're lucky, by googling for online specs. If you have a specific model in mind you can ask in the thread devoted to that player here at AVSForum.

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Would you advise against playing a Region Free PAL Blu-Ray disc in a Region A NTSC player?

It's not what you asked, but the US-model BDP 93 plays my one region-free, PAL DVD just fine on a TV which doesn't accept 50Hz input.
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So I need to look for a player that converts 50hz to 60hz? The TV I am getting is LG pk550 and I have no idea if it does Pal.
convert 50hz to 60 hz,I think a converter can do that,LG TV is also OK,but we should play it as plans!
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