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The S/PDIF LPCM output setting is a rate LIMITER, not an audio upscale choice. It is used to protect gear that can’t handle the higher rates. The output will never be higher than the rate present in the content.

For Blu-ray movies, the output is also limited by Copy Protection rules. So even if the track happens to be 96kHz, the output on S/PDIF will be 48kHz (from the “comparability” track always present for just such purposes).

Expect Stereo LPCM 48kHz, and either 16-bit or 24-bit according to the source track
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Thank you for clarifying it for me, Bob. So, the CP does allow 24-bit sound via toslink, then. If so, then the difference between 96kHz and 48kHz may not be perceptible. In any case, I know that Audyssey XT32 (always engaged in my current system*) downsamples the signal to 48kHz, anyway. So, should I decide to go down the stereo pre-amp route, I may not notice a big sound-quality difference in movies, using its high-end DAC. Of course, the biggest difference would still be the transition between 5.1 to 2.0. I am still struggling to make that decision. :-)



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Does anyone know if this Oppo can be used as a server (with a connected hard drive) for Plex & Infuse 5 on Apple TV?


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Does anyone know if this Oppo can be used as a server (with a connected hard drive) for Plex & Infuse 5 on Apple TV?
Nope; connected USB devices are only available to the Oppo itself.
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Nope; connected USB devices are only available to the Oppo itself.


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Does anyone know if this Oppo can be used as a server (with a connected hard drive) for Plex & Infuse 5 on Apple TV?


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I experimented with Plex years ago and couldn't even get the 93 to play things from a computer-based Plex server! It can play from DLNA/UPnP servers on a LAN, just not a Plex server. Like other Oppos, it has the ability to play multichannel LPCM and FLAC files that way, which AV receivers will knock back to stereo if you use the receiver as the streamer, while the Oppos will stream them in their full multichannel glory.

I've since given the 93 to my wife to use purely as a disk player, and upgraded to a used 103, which works as a renderer so it can be controlled by the server without turning on my projector. I use Twonky as my file manager, BubbleUPnP Server (a Windows program) to control my renderers and Android BubbleUPnP to control my renderers, which can also play music and video from my setup over the internet when away from home, by linking to BubbleUPnP Server. The same programmer who wrote those two also wrote the UPnP plugin for Foobar2000 (also a Windows program) which can act as a renderer locally, as a player over the net, and as a file server for BubbleUPnP. The only reason I use Twonky as the media file manager is that unlike foo_UPnP it shows you album graphics while browsing, not just while playing. Only Twonky ($20) and Android BubbleUPnP ($5 at the Google Play store) cost money. Foobar, foo_upnp, and BubbleUPnP Server are all free.

For those "gapless play" enthusiasts who hate concerts being interrupted between tracks, the Yamaha RX-A1030 AV receiver can stream (and even render) gaplessly, though it still streams only in stereo. So I switch renderers in the Android app and play stereo concerts that way. (Yamaha doesn't even call that model a renderer, so I can't vouch for other models!)

Oh, and foo_upnp and Android BubbleUPnP include search capability that can find files by looking for any text embedded in a file's tags.

For more info about this, including links to get the programs I mentioned, go to my post about this subject in the RX-A1030 thread here.
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Well, I think I am going to have to step up to one of the newer Oppo model player - kinda forced to now. I'm starting my path towards 4k TV (researching OLEDs now) and plan to have one in my HT by years end. However, in the mean time, I purchased the King Kong 4k movie thinking I could just play the 1080 version until I get a UHD player and found out the 93 won't read the disk. It didn't dawn on me when I purchased the movie as I just was focused on the 1080P version of the movie on the disk. Is there a way to play this disc on the 93 that I may be missing?

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Well, I think I am going to have to step up to one of the newer Oppo model player - kinda forced to now. I'm starting my path towards 4k TV (researching OLEDs now) and plan to have one in my HT by years end. However, in the mean time, I purchased the King Kong 4k movie thinking I could just play the 1080 version until I get a UHD player and found out the 93 won't read the disk. It didn't dawn on me when I purchased the movie as I just was focused on the 1080P version of the movie on the disk. Is there a way to play this disc on the 93 that I may be missing?

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It's just a standard HD blu-ray....it should play on your 93. I'd think there's either something wrong with the disk...which you could test by trying on some other player...or with your player.
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Well, I think I am going to have to step up to one of the newer Oppo model player - kinda forced to now. I'm starting my path towards 4k TV (researching OLEDs now) and plan to have one in my HT by years end. However, in the mean time, I purchased the King Kong 4k movie thinking I could just play the 1080 version until I get a UHD player and found out the 93 won't read the disk. It didn't dawn on me when I purchased the movie as I just was focused on the 1080P version of the movie on the disk. Is there a way to play this disc on the 93 that I may be missing?

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The standard Blu-ray doesn't play? What happens, what is the error?

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It's just a standard HD blu-ray....it should play on your 93. I'd think there's either something wrong with the disk...which you could test by trying on some other player...or with your player.
I thought so.

Update: I checked another player and the same thing. I'll be returning the movie this weekend.

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Update: I had a duh moment. I placed the 4k movie in the player. All is good.

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Can anyone tell me if those HDMI de-embedders that they sell, for a few tens of bucks, actually outputs the full-resolution LPCM audio via toslink/coaxial? Does it bypass the CP on blu-rays, which limits the toslink output to CD resolution on the player? How big is the audio delay they typically introduce? Can audio/video be re-synced, after splitting?
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Update: I had a duh moment. I placed the 4k movie in the player. All is good.
On UHD players its always the other way around: people mistakenly play the BR when they wanted the UHD.

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On UHD players its always the other way around: people mistakenly play the BR when they wanted the UHD.

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Glad to know I'm not the only one to have the doh moment - haha! I hope I don't do that when I get the UHD player.

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And I remember seeing at least one comment in the Blu-ray reviews section by a guy who didn't think the Blu-ray looked any better than a DVD - until he realized he'd played the DVD copy by mistake.

I think this may often be caused by one of the disks being hidden by a paper insert inside the case - whether for registering the streaming version or just an ad for other disks!

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...I think this may often be caused by one of the disks being hidden by a paper insert inside the case...
You are correct because that's what happened to me.

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I think this may often be caused by one of the disks being hidden by a paper insert inside the case - whether for registering the streaming version or just an ad for other disks!
Plus the studios often labeling UHD and Bluray discs almost identically. They used to do something similar with some Bluray discs and their Bluray extras discs or with separate Theatrical and Extended versions. I think Paramount was the worst offender, using a plain grey background to the artwork and tiny lettering which did not distinguish between discs very well.

Personally, I think discs need to be colour coded according to a standard to readily differentiate them: I always have to don reading glasses to tell the discs apart.
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Oppo Remote App & IOS 11

I "upgraded" my iPhone to IOS 11, and my much beloved Oppo Remote App has stopped working. Any news on whether OPPO intends to make Oppo Remote IOS 11 compatible?

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I "upgraded" my iPhone to IOS 11, and my much beloved Oppo Remote App has stopped working. Any news on whether OPPO intends to make Oppo Remote IOS 11 compatible?
I reported it to them and initially got the old “reboot your router, check your network...”. Told them I did all that and they said they would look into it. Might be worth you sending an email to support also.

Sometimes it works if I restartt the app multiple times.

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^ The Remote app is currently showing in the iOS App Store as not compatible with iOS 11.

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I did contact Oppo, and they just said their engineers are working on it. No time estimate. Sadly, I didn't feel much sense of urgency. I understand the futility of giving dates, as I used to manage software development projects. I would have like some sense of remorse that that it wasn't ready in time for the rollout of ios 11.

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I understand the App is 32 bit, and Apps have been 64bit compatible for a while. Oppo (or whoever writes their Apps) must have seen this coming. I think Ios11 is 64bit only.

Mildly annoying, but considering they haven’t got the 203 app sorted (e.g remembering night mode), I think it could take a while for a 93 App rewrite.

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Hello:

Not sure why my BDP-93 (and even BDP-103 & BDP-105) fail to recognize or playback the audio tracks on certain .MOV files? These are files generated from my Nikon S8100 digital camera and downloaded to my network drive(s). Some files, recorded and downloaded from the same event, will playback fine. While most others fail. After file loads I get message: "The audio format is not supported", then the video plays back with no audio.

Windows Media Player will playback all files fine.

I'm curious if there are methods to update or fix this?

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Hello:

Not sure why my BDP-93 (and even BDP-103 & BDP-105) fail to recognize or playback the audio tracks on certain .MOV files? These are files generated from my Nikon S8100 digital camera and downloaded to my network drive(s). Some files, recorded and downloaded from the same event, will playback fine. While most others fail. After file loads I get message: "The audio format is not supported".

Windows Media Player will playback all files fine.

I'm curious if there are methods to update or fix this?
We would have to know the audio codecs involved, of which there are many. The FAQ has a list of types known not to be supported.

There is a free utility called MediaInfo. Check the output from that for the files than do and don't work and see if there is a pattern.'

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We would have to know the audio codecs involved, of which there are many. The FAQ has a list of types known not to be supported.

There is a free utility called MediaInfo. Check the output from that for the files than do and don't work and see if there is a pattern.'

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thanks Bill. I'm on the MediaInfo site right now. Just want to make sure I'm downloading the correct utility app:
https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows

I using Windows 10, I would think this is the proper version to load:
v0.7.99 Universal (32/64 bit) (64 bit only without installer)

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Hello:

Not sure why my BDP-93 (and even BDP-103 & BDP-105) fail to recognize or playback the audio tracks on certain .MOV files? These are files generated from my Nikon S8100 digital camera and downloaded to my network drive(s). Some files, recorded and downloaded from the same event, will playback fine. While most others fail. After file loads I get message: "The audio format is not supported", then the video plays back with no audio.

Windows Media Player will playback all files fine.

I'm curious if there are methods to update or fix this?
I ran up against this with the MOV files from my Canon DSLRs as well. What I found was that Canon DSLRs (and perhaps Nikon as well) write a mutant form of MOV file with the bit order of the audio reversed, yielding what is called a SOWT file. (That's "TWOS" spelled backwards!)

I got a more pronounced error with my 93 - it wouldn't play the file at all. After that message it just bailed.

I ended up using my Win 7 PC to play the files through my AVR instead of the 93.

Otherwise, you'll have to do a file conversion to mp4 or other format, which can be very time-consuming.

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thanks Bill. I'm on the MediaInfo site right now. Just want to make sure I'm downloading the correct utility app:
https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows

I using Windows 10, I would think this is the proper version to load:
v0.7.99 Universal (32/64 bit) (64 bit only without installer)

Appreciate your help
I'd use the version with an installer unless you're advanced enough to do the installation yourself.

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thanks Bill. I'm on the MediaInfo site right now. Just want to make sure I'm downloading the correct utility app:
https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows

I using Windows 10, I would think this is the proper version to load:
v0.7.99 Universal (32/64 bit) (64 bit only without installer)

Appreciate your help
I get it via my linux distribution. On Windows I would use the one marked "If you don't know which one to download, download this one".

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I get it via my linux distribution. On Windows I would use the one marked "If you don't know which one to download, download this one".

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Exactly! That one has an installer that will not only choose the correct version for your machine, it will also put it in the correct program files folder tree (on 64 bit systems there are two) and make whatever registry entries are needed to make it work!

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I ran up against this with the MOV files from my Canon DSLRs as well. What I found was that Canon DSLRs (and perhaps Nikon as well) write a mutant form of MOV file with the bit order of the audio reversed, yielding what is called a SOWT file. (That's "TWOS" spelled backwards!)

I got a more pronounced error with my 93 - it wouldn't play the file at all. After that message it just bailed.

I ended up using my Win 7 PC to play the files through my AVR instead of the 93.

Otherwise, you'll have to do a file conversion to mp4 or other format, which can be very time-consuming.
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I'd use the version with an installer unless you're advanced enough to do the installation yourself.
really appreciate your input here. Yeah, I'm definitely going with the "installer" version of MediaInfo app.

And, yes, it seems the Nikon firmware builds the MOV file with a susceptible audio file format.

I will install MediaInfo and get back
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