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Are there any blueray players that support usb 3? I'm looking to get one this Christmas or soon after and I would love to be able to hard wire an external hard drive. USB 2 is too slow for me. And I'm not doing wireless yet.
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I'm curious to hear what you're doing with a Blu Ray player that USB 2 is too slow for?
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Are there any blueray players that support usb 3? I'm looking to get one this Christmas or soon after and I would love to be able to hard wire an external hard drive. USB 2 is too slow for me. And I'm not doing wireless yet.
Have you considered getting a external HD that also supports eSATA, as some Blu-ray players support eSATA now?

See eSATA is faster than USB 3.0 — at least right now


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Have you considered getting a external HD that also supports eSATA, as some Blu-ray players support eSATA now?

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That's even better! I didn't realize there were BD players supporting eSATA. My current external hdd is eSATA only.

I just figured I wanted the fastest transfer rate possible. Filling up 2TB on USB 2.0 would take quite a while I think.
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Bumping this to see if there are any BD players with USB 3.0 now, that would support faster data transfer rates than 2.0?

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Are there any blueray players that support usb 3? I'm looking to get one this Christmas or soon after and I would love to be able to hard wire an external hard drive. USB 2 is too slow for me. And I'm not doing wireless yet.

It's not clear what you mean here by "hard wire" an external drive. Please explain.

USB 3.0 drives will provide their highest speed when connected to a computer that supports them. They will work as a USB 2.0 drive when connected to older computers without 3.0 support. USB 2.0 is plenty fast enough for any Blu-Ray player. The transfer speed is more than adequate to handle any format you can feed to a player. The only advantage would be on getting files onto a 3.0 drive from your computer. 2.0 performance will work fine when playing files through the USB port on a Blu-Ray player.

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^ I was wondering about this as well... whether there'd be any practical advantage in the higher data transfer rates offered by 3.0 on the player side.

For example, is it possible that USB 3.0 might improve the playback of high-bitrate MP4 1080p HD video files (or maybe even higher resolution video files than 1080p?) from a USB 3.0 flash drive?

Alot of this stuff is still fairly new to me.

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For example, is it possible that USB 3.0 might improve the playback of high-bitrate MP4 1080p HD video files (or maybe even higher resolution video files than 1080p?) from a USB 3.0 flash drive?

Not with any currently available format. When, and if, 4K arrives, USB 3.0 might make a difference or even be necessary.

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It's not clear what you mean here by "hard wire" an external drive. Please explain.

USB 3.0 drives will provide their highest speed when connected to a computer that supports them. They will work as a USB 2.0 drive when connected to older computers without 3.0 support. USB 2.0 is plenty fast enough for any Blu-Ray player. The transfer speed is more than adequate to handle any format you can feed to a player. The only advantage would be on getting files onto a 3.0 drive from your computer. 2.0 performance will work fine when playing files through the USB port on a Blu-Ray player.

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My Samsung SE-406AE is USB 2.0, and works fine.

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Not with any currently available format. When, and if, 4K arrives, USB 3.0 might make a difference or even be necessary.

USB 3.0 will very likely be the gold standard for 4K.
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Considering that USB 2.0 has a speed 10 times or more beyond Blu-Ray's, 3.0 may not be needed. We'll have to see what the future brings.

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^ Interesting. I haven't tested this yet myself, but do any of you folks notice stuttering or any lack of smoothness in the playback of 1080p MP4's from a USB 2.0 flash drive?

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Most blue ray players with usb2 actually use it in full, meaning the data transfer rate can be more than 33 mBytes/sec when playing large HD .mkv or .m2ts files (more than 2 Gb or even 15-25 Gb). That's practically imposibble to achieve through normal usb2 connected HDD to them. But surprisingly well this smooth play of huge files is achieved using ANY usb3 device attached to them via their usb2 port. Some Sony devices support even 3Tb usb3 HDD. In other brands such as Samsung that can be achived through 2Tb max HDD or by splitting into partitions a HDD larger than 2 Tb. Obviously the default file system supported on those HDD is NTFS to support such large files. So far exFAT is not yet supported by usb2 endowed TV, blue ray players with build-in ability to play various video formats: mkv, mp4, xvid or more seldom today divx avi, mov, wmv, mpg, m2tv, vob files or more rare ones.
Obviously no wi-fi can support that data transfer speed or even wired ethernet network [those devices support only 100 Mb not 1 Gb ethernet as by default today laptops do].
No cheap (less than $200) blue ray player support eSATA cobnnection. No usb3 TV or blue ray player are sold yet!
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Very interesting. Thanks for the reply, allwithmovies. (And sorry for the delay in responding, but it has been over 6 months since the last post here). smile.gif

 

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But surprisingly well this smooth play of huge files is achieved using ANY usb3 device attached to them via their usb2 port. Some Sony devices support even 3Tb usb3 HDD.

 

Would that include USB 3.0 thumb/flashdrives as well?


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