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post #961 of 1008 Old 01-31-2011, 07:30 PM
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Unfortunately, most of what I listen to is not reference quality. Having said that, a SACD I like for both quality of recording and sheer vocal talent is The Worlds Greatest Audiophile Vocal Recordings. Not sure the bit rate but it sounds very nice.
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Styln, can you make some recommendations for good reference CDs.
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Styln, can you make some recommendations for good reference CDs.

Sure. Let me look up some of my reviews on the SE and I'll post the link. While I do that check these out. Oh, the AIX disc is pristine audio, and great for comparing micro-dynamics.

And I should add one can certainly use NJ as a reference discs. But I'd recommend focusing on the flow and feeling (ie skip the critical listening and just enjoy the music). It's maybe the most important listening test. If a piece of equipment passes every clinical test, but doesn't inspire me to listen and enjoy music, it fails in my book.

So I'll correct myself this time If NJ is the album that you just can't not listen to while it's playing, then keep it in your evaluation set.

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Styln, can you make some recommendations for good reference CDs.

Here are the discs I used for a not so critical listening test with the SE:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post17773556


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post17758447

That said, all these disc are of excellent quality and I use each to highlight different areas in the system. BTW, the Getz/Gilberto SACD is the album I can't not listen to: the music just pours out of the speakers and I'm drawn in every time

Here are the links to CD and Stereo SACDs.

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Hi, Styln,

Couldn't agree more. This is what I keep trying to get across to people. Being an audiophile nut people expect me to enjoy transparent sound with all the detail possible. Not. I have to be able to sit down and just enjoy the music and it doesn't have to be on a multibuck system. And the Getz/Gilberto SACD affects me the same way.

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Sure. Let me look up some of my reviews on the SE and I'll post the link. While I do that check these out. Oh, the AIX disc is pristine audio, and great for comparing micro-dynamics.

And I should add one can certainly use NJ as a reference discs. But I'd recommend focusing on the flow and feeling (ie skip the critical listening and just enjoy the music). It's maybe the most important listening test. If a piece of equipment passes every clinical test, but doesn't inspire me to listen and enjoy music, it fails in my book.

So I'll correct myself this time If NJ is the album that you just can't not listen to while it's playing, then keep it in your evaluation set.

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Terrific, thanks. On a side note, I hooked the 95 up to Samsung full LED backlit LCD and the video is stunning. Netflix on the Oppo looks suspicously good consider the material is being streamed in real time. Not sure what codec Netflix uses but it's good. Must require some special h/w to decode. Blu ray is amazing. Compared to the Samsung BRD player I use for this display, the Oppo simply rocks.

Thanks again for the recommendations.
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Hi, Styln,

Couldn't agree more. This is what I keep trying to get across to people. Being an audiophile nut people expect me to enjoy transparent sound with all the detail possible. Not. I have to be able to sit down and just enjoy the music and it doesn't have to be on a multibuck system. And the Getz/Gilberto SACD affects me the same way.

Under what may be the last post on this "Anticipation Thread" Seattle skies, Gill

Yep, doesn't have to be expensive, but if the music on your system doesn't make you laugh or cry, keep working on it.

Last post my ass

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I did some listening last night with various material with the 95 feeding the Integra via the balanced outputs with the Integra in direct mode (speakers full range, no audyssey). Sound was outstanding with great detail and depth of soundstage. I have Paradigm Signature S8 Loudspeakers and a Outlaw Model 990 fully balanced amp (Lexicon LX7 clone). I was really impressed with the detail in the low end and voices were pitch perfect. VERY nice sound. I am going to take it to a friend's this week some time and put it in his 2-channel rig, which is geared more toward higher end 2-channel playback with an Audio Research pre-amp, Ayre amps and Vandersteen speakers. Will be comparing to a 83SE and also an Ayre DAC fed by a server.

Yes that is the first thing I noticed the human voice sounded real not digital. Also the overall multi channel sound had an analogue warmth to it. The digital harsh is gone. On the picture side I noticed it was subdued, but with more detail, IE the floating feather from Forrest Gump clearly showed the individual strains.
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Awaiting the arrival of the 95.

My original intent was to use this strictly for BR playback, but I'm now considering the 95 for SACD duty as well given all the positive reviews. I still use a Denon DVD-2900 for multichannel audio and DVD. Do you think the 95 would be better than the 2900 for MCH audio (am I totally living in the past)? I would be using the using analog interconnects with either.
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Awaiting the arrival of the 95.

My original intent was to use this strictly for BR playback, but I'm now considering the 95 for SACD duty as well given all the positive reviews. I still use a Denon DVD-2900 for multichannel audio and DVD. Do you think the 95 would be better than the 2900 for MCH audio (am I totally living in the past)? I would be using the using analog interconnects with either.
You should try it as the 95 has the HW to be the best MCH analog SACD player in the world today.

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I'm replacing my Denon 3910 for audio discs with my 95. I have no doubt it will be at least as good and most likely better.

Denon likely up on Ebay tomorrow

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I'm now considering the 95 for SACD duty as well given all the positive reviews. I still use a Denon DVD-2900 for multichannel audio and DVD. Do you think the 95 would be better than the 2900 for MCH audio (am I totally living in the past)? I would be using the using analog interconnects with either
yeah, I'm hoping the same thing. I've been using a Denon DVD-3930CI for three or four years now, it has become my "music" player (ie. CD, SACD, DVD-A). I thought the BDP-83SE would take it's place, I did'nt think it sounded as "natural" as the Denon. However the BDP-95 seems to have a more "robust" design combined with better analog circuitry (like the Denon's), I expect it to be a significant improvement over the BDP-83SE and as good (or better) than the Denon.
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yeah, I'm hoping the same thing. I've been using a Denon DVD-3930CI for three or four years now, it has become my "music" player (ie. CD, SACD, DVD-A). I thought the BDP-83SE would take it's place, I did'nt think it sounded as "natural" as the Denon. However the BDP-95 seems to have a more "robust" design combined with better analog circuitry (like the Denon's), I expect it to be a significant improvement over the BDP-83SE and as good (or better) than the Denon.
^I have been looking for a "music player" for the last two weeks. The Denon DVD-3930CI and the Arcam CD37 are on my list, as many owners of both insist that they are better than the OPPO 83SE and even the OPPO 83NE. I know people that have the Denon DVD-3930, and sold their OPPO 83SE in favor of it. The bass management and AL24 processing on the Denon creates a sound to beat. I know a person that has a OPPO 83NE, and he listens to all of his CD's and SACD's on his Arcam CD37, insisting that the Arcam beats the OPPO, and he is not even considering the OPPO 95. I have an order in for the 95, and if is not extremely better than my 83SE, I will be looking for the Arcam CD37, and will keep my 83SE and send the 95 back to OPPO before the thirty days! In fact I may cancel before that unless peoples that already have the 95 are truly amazed! I know some have the 95 already, why haven't we heard all of the praises yet?
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The Oppo doesn't up-sample anything. The sampling rate is purely determined by the source. For PCM, it could 44.1K(red book CDs), 88.2KHz (some SACDs) or 192KHz (for some highrez SACDs or BD music). The output sampling rate of SACD's to the DAC using their 1-bit DSD protocol is 2.8224 MHz. This would be the case if you choose "DSD" instead of "LPCM" in the sound options menu.

Thanks. Here's my follow-up question. I have three options (set in my D2V) for playing Red Book CDs through the Oppo: 1) Digital (HDMI) input on the D2V, which upsamples all digital inputs to 192/24 before DSP; 2) XLR analog ins, but with DSP; 3) XLR ins, but with no DSP--the audio equivalent of dot-by-dot video. I'll try all three, but in your opinion, which would be best? I'd be using Magneplanar MG-20.1's by themselves for CDs, unless I was playing BIG organ music, in which case I'd switch on the woof. Amps are a pair of Wyred4Sound SX-1000 monoblocks.

The easiest (and usually cheapest) way to improve the sound of your system is to put on a better recording.
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The bass management and AL24 processing on the Denon creates a sound to beat

exactly right! Only gripe is certain Denon player models have exhibited behavior issues/failures (ie. freezing, laser assy failures, etc.,..), while these issues are usually resolved by sending unit back to factory it is expensive ($300.00 each time unit failed). My DVD-3930CI has operated fairly solid (knock-on-wood).
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My big question is

I hope that the BDp-95 will sound better than the Sony SCD-XA5400ES
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exactly right! Only gripe is certain Denon player models have exhibited behavior issues/failures (ie. freezing, laser assy failures, etc.,..), while these issues are usually resolved by sending unit back to factory it is expensive ($300.00 each time unit failed). My DVD-3930CI has operated fairly solid (knock-on-wood).

I have ordered a 95, but if it is not significantly better than my 83SE in 2CH & MCH analog, I will return the 95 to Oppo before the 30 days are up and get a Denon 3930 from Dakmart for my music player, refurbished, they claim the laser problem is fixed!
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I have ordered a 95, but if it is not significantly better than my 83SE in 2CH & MCH analog, I will return the 95 to Oppo before the 30 days are up and get a Denon 3930 from Dakmart for my music player, refurbished, they claim the laser problem is fixed!

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I have ordered a 95, but if it is not significantly better than my 83SE in 2CH & MCH analog, I will return the 95 to Oppo before the 30 days are up and get a Denon 3930 from Dakmart for my music player, refurbished, they claim the laser problem is fixed!

yeah, laser assy is common fix for those Denon models
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Just cancelled my OPPO 95, for now. I have an Audiolab 8200CD on the way. The 8200CD has the same ESS9018 as the 95, only a CD player, but it allows digital inputs (4), so it can also be used as a DAC. Plus the USB input from computer allows a high quality (up to 24/176) media player to be controlled via remote to stream media from WMplayer, itunes, etc. I plan on using JLRiver. This will allow me to download or rip Flac 24/96 and play directly from my PC application to the 8200 DAC. I will continue to play SACD, DVD-A, Bluray from my 83SE. Can't see a reason to upgrade to the 95 just for analog music!
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Just cancelled my OPPO 95, for now. I have an Audiolab 8200CD on the way. The 8200CD has the same ESS9018 as the 95, only a CD player, but it allows digital inputs (4), so it can also be used as a DAC. Plus the USB input from computer allows a high quality (up to 24/176) media player to be controlled via remote to stream media from WMplayer, itunes, etc. I plan on using JLRiver. This will allow me to download or rip Flac 24/96 and play directly from my PC application to the 8200 DAC. I will continue to play SACD, DVD-A, Bluray from my 83SE. Can't see a reason to upgrade to the 95 just for analog music!

JLRiver dose it work with Mac?
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JLRiver dose it work with Mac?

Correction JRiver, and it does work on a Mac. Users say it is better than itunes, it works like itunes. I tried it several months ago and liked it, but it wasn't compatible with my Oppo, this will work direct to the Audiolab 8200CD via USB to the DAC in the 8200. The 8200 remote is used to navigate within the JRiver app. I started to rip CD's to Flac, and downloaded Flac files from the internet, and was disapointed when I found out that the Oppo did not support .flac streaming.
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and was disapointed when I found out that the Oppo did not support .flac streaming.

FLAC from DLNA? Sure it does.

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Well not from itunes, or JRiver Media Center, with the use of a remote! I was refering to the 83SE that I own anyway.
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Well not from itunes, or JRiver Media Center, with the use of a remote!

If you setup JRiver Media Center to be a DLNA server, you can access your JRiver library from the UI on the 95 (using the 95's remote). You won't get JRiver's UI, but you can access your media with a remote.

The key here, which I think is what you're trying to say, is that you can't use something like iTunes or JRiver Media Center to PUSH content to the 95 and essentially use the 95 as a USB sound card.
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Greetings from Germany!

As an owner of an BDP-83SE I`ve already ordered an BDP-95EU from our local dealer Heimkino Klohs in Leizpig, Germany without knowing anything about the used fan-system in the case. I hope for a auto-regulating, temperature-controlled fan, decoupled from the case with an extra big diameter to ensure of an minimum noise level.

I was very disturbed by the fan of the 83SE because I sat right aside the machine in my office the whole day. This was the only details I haven't understood on OPPOs concept of an noisy but audiophile highend player. If you look on the PC Moddingscene many passive cooling options are avaible. If I were a tuner this would be my first target.

And the idea to use the oppo as a USB-soundcard for my PC sounds great too!
How's about an exchangeable filter cartridge to clean the circulated air from dust?
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Greetings from Germany!

As an owner of an BDP-83SE I`ve already ordered an BDP-95EU from our local dealer Heimkino Klohs in Leizpig, Germany

Hello,

Does your dealer already know the price for the 95EU ?

Regards (from Belgium)
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No, he doesn't told me a final market price. But I expect 1200-1400 Euro including a modchip to make the machine code- and regionfree.
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no, he doesn't told me a final market price. But i expect 1200-1400 euro including a modchip to make the machine code- and regionfree.

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