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post #181 of 1008 Old 12-23-2010, 11:00 AM
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I am not a tester, it is in my mind's eye only.

And your mind's ear

Thanks for clarifying that, because I understood that the Denon AVR4310's Dacs sounded better than those of the Oppo 95, and that got me really worried

But now I understand you were referring to the 83's stereo out (not the SE, right?)
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...you were referring to the 83's stereo out (not the SE, right?)

Right. To be clear, in regards to 2 ch, the Denon DACs are indeed not even as good as the 83 dedicated stereo analog. The same goes for nor the 93 analog, and certainly I would expect the SE or expected 95 analog are far superior to the Denon.

I have no way of currently comparing MC analog sound but my theory is that the benefit of the 95's MC analog would be outweighed by my need for a more flexible speaker setup option for my room. The surrounds are not equidistant and are at least 2' more distant than FR/L. Thus MC will be off significantly in terms of delays.

So I will route MC digitally through the Denon and Audyssey will do room EQ, bass management will be applied and distances will be appropriately compensated for. Then it will be subjected to the Denon's OK, but not superb, DACs. I will run 2 ch analog out of the 95 into the Parasound p7 or nice 2 ch, unless someone has a better suggestion.

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Sorry if I have missed this earlier in the thread, but is the 95 going to be capable of playing Hi-Rez FLAC/WMA downloads via say USB thumb drives? So, effectively acting as a digital player/DAC?

Cheers

Yes, the -93 does this now and the -95 is expected to be the same. WAV and APE also.

Standard WMA only, not Pro, Lossless or Voice.

See the FAQ for file types and containers.

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Yes, the -93 does this now and the -95 is expected to be the same. WAV and APE also.

Standard WMA only, not Pro, Lossless or Voice.

See the FAQ for file types and containers.

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Cheers Bill, I thought I would never want to change my modified 83SE, but just maybe now, the 95 is looking mighty tempting....
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Like many of you, I can't wait to hear more about the BDP-95 from Oppo!

I am unfamiliar with XLR Balanced Outputs and would like to know more from folks who know about this audio feature.

1) I've seen the cable for these three-pin jacks. Are the XLR Balanced Outputs intended to plug into an audio receiver that has these jacks as well?

2) I've seen XLR plugs to RCA Phono Plugs (Blu-ray to Receiver). Is this a way to get a benefit from XLR output or does XLR plug to RCA Phono Plug kill the XLR benefit?

3) Or, since my receiver has no XLR jack should I just use the standard RCA Phono to RCA Phono (red, right/white, left) connections?

I'd gladly get the XLR to Phono cables, though, if that gives me some advantages.

4) What are the advantages, in general, of XLR Balanced Outputs in audio reproduction (Stereo)?

Thanks, in advance, for your feedback!

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Like many of you, I can't wait to hear more about the BDP-95 from Oppo!

I am unfamiliar with XLR Balanced Outputs and would like to know more from folks who know about this audio feature.

1) I've seen the cable for these three-pin jacks. Are the XLR Balanced Outputs intended to plug into an audio receiver that has these jacks as well?

2) I've seen XLR plugs to RCA Phono Plugs (Blu-ray to Receiver). Is this a way to get a benefit from XLR output or does XLR plug to RCA Phono Plug kill the XLR benefit?

3) Or, since my receiver has no XLR jack should I just use the standard RCA Phono to RCA Phono (red, right/white, left) connections?

I'd gladly get the XLR to Phono cables, though, if that gives me some advantages.

4) What are the advantages, in general, of XLR Balanced Outputs in audio reproduction (Stereo)?

Thanks, in advance, for your feedback!

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Just prowling the thread looking for information like everyone else! I can't wait for the 95.

You should do a seach, as this subject has been discussed many times.

1) yes
2) kills the benefit, but the question should be: how much benefit was there in first place?
3) RCAs are fine for short interconnect runs
4) XLRs are used for very long runs where common mode noise cancellation is beneficial, such as long microphone cabling, especially in noisy environments. For most typical home audio installations, they are unnecessary. But, if you have the connections, feel free to use them!

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I will run 2 ch analog out of the 95 into the Parasound p7 or nice 2 ch, unless someone has a better suggestion.

I have read from two very knowlegable Parasound people that the SQ for 2CH between the 2100 and the P7 is very close if not identical. So if you would be using the P7 for just 2CH and not MCH then it might not be worth the added cost. I sent you a PM as well.

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If one intends to use the 95 only as a CD and other-audio-files player (via USB or eSATA) in a 2-channel system, will it be necessary to have the 95 connected to an external display in order to select which file to play, or will one be able to select and play files from what is visible on the 95's own small front-panel display (or possily on the remote control)?

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I need help on deciding which way to go relative to keeping my 93 or going to a 95. I was considering buying an Eastern Electric minimax tube dac that has the same chip as the 95. I also have Denon 5910 for two channel that has been upgraded but I use the internal dac on it. Would I be better off and save money instead of spending $750 for the dac by selling the 93 and the 5910 and going with the 95? I can use the dac on both the 93 and 5910. To me the 5910 is better than the 93 but with the dac not sure if it would be even better than the 95 or about the same with the same basic dac. The 5910 is a great transport and has had $1k in upgrades. Also, i use analog on everything, 2 and 5.1. So basically I could spend $750 or sell both for $1200-$1400 and spend $1000. Any opinions, help or knowledge is appreciated.
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If one intends to use the 95 only as a CD and other-audio-files player (via USB or eSATA) in a 2-channel system, will it be necessary to have the 95 connected to an external display in order to select which file to play, or will one be able to select and play files from what is visible on the 95's own small front-panel display (or possily on the remote control)?

Thanks.

From my experience with the 93 you would have to be connected to a display.
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Sorry if I have missed this earlier in the thread, but is the 95 going to be capable of playing Hi-Rez FLAC/WMA downloads via say USB thumb drives? So, effectively acting as a digital player/DAC?

Cheers

The 93 does so assume the 95 will as well.
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......So far I have tried using the Oppo's dedicated stereo analog into a Parasound 2100 2 ch pre w/ HT bypass and was overall unimpressed with the SQ compared to the Denon (some additional mid/high clarity but boomy bass). The best 2 ch SQ yet is the minimal analog processing route through an Emo XPA1 prepro, which gives a broader, more detailed soundstage, but this processor is duplicative of much in the Denon and may not be sufficient to show off the 95's analog. I am considering trying out the Parasound P7 as the P3 has no HT bypass.

I am looking for your suggestions, including specifics for a good stereo pre w/ HT bypass, new or used under $2K. ((xposted on 83SE thread))


XPA1 pre/pro? Did you Mean the USP1? Emo will have their XSP1 out "soon" with Balanced connections.

http://emotiva.com/news/index.php/20...xsp-1-preview/



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I was considering buying an Eastern Electric minimax tube dac that has the same chip as the 95.
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Also, i use analog on everything, 2 and 5.1. So basically I could spend $750 or sell both for $1200-$1400 and spend $1000. Any opinions, help or knowledge is appreciated.

I was also thinking about the minmax until I learned about the 95, so I contacted Oppo and asked whether one could connect a computer to the 95 and use the 95 as the computer's external DAC. They replied that one could not do this. One must connect external eSATA or USB storage devices and then use the Oppo's software to access and play the audio and video files on them.

(However, I neglected to ask Oppo the question I posed above about a display, so thanks for taking the time to answer it. I assume that a display would not be necessary merely to play CDs, but maybe one would be needed to initially set up the 95 to play them via 2-channel analogue out.)
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Any word on the 95's onboard opamps, regulators, capacitors and master clock? Or any word on when these info will be disclosed?

ev666il,

Oppo never shares this type of information? The same way the McDonald's doesn't share the ingredients to their "special" sauce.


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Well now I'm pissed...... (sort of)! I've had my 83SE for about 6 months now and being that it was one of the best on the market at the time, I figured that it should last at least a couple of years before the upgrade bug started chewing on my soul. Now, with all these details coming out about ESS-9018 DACs for all channels as well as balanced outs for the dedicated stereo, the upgrade bug is not only chewing at my soul, it's knawing at my wallet as well.

Any ideas what a slightly used 83SE will go for?

There is a listing currently on eBay where the price is currently $700+ with a day and a 1/2 to go if this helps.


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I was also thinking about the minmax until I learned about the 95, so I contacted Oppo and asked whether one could connect a computer to the 95 and use the 95 as the computer's external DAC. They replied that one could not do this. One must connect external eSATA or USB storage devices and then use the Oppo's software to access and play the audio and video files on them.


I've read about the eSATA connection, but I don't clearly understand it 100%.
Can I add my external hard drive to it, and play my music on the hard drive?
I'm guessing it's a similar idea as plugging in an USB thumb drive with same control?

If so that's a wonderful feature.

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Oppo never shares this type of information? The same way the McDonald's doesn't share the ingredients to their "special" sauce.

ew, looks like I'll have to open one, then
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I have read from two very knowlegable Parasound people that the SQ for 2CH between the 2100 and the P7 is very close if not identical. So if you would be using the P7 for just 2CH and not MCH then it might not be worth the added cost...

that is the surprising impression I got from the tech fellow I spoke to at Parasound as well. Rather interesting given the very good review Kal Rubinson gave the P7. Thnx, to you guys for helping me out with this complex upgrade.

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XPA1 pre/pro? Did you Mean the USP1?.

Sorry, I meant UMC1, post corrected. A surprisingly nice piece of equipment for the price, as is so much emo gear.

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By the way, did I miss the price of the 95? I don't remember seeing it anywhere.

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Well now I'm pissed...... (sort of)! I've had my 83SE for about 6 months now and being that it was one of the best on the market at the time, I figured that it should last at least a couple of years before the upgrade bug started chewing on my soul. Now, with all these details coming out about ESS-9018 DACs for all channels as well as balanced outs for the dedicated stereo, the upgrade bug is not only chewing at my soul, it's knawing at my wallet as well.

Any ideas what a slightly used 83SE will go for?

Amazon has two of them for $1449.00 !

How to phase match subwoofers to the mains speakers: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post19542630
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I've read about the eSATA connection, but I don't clearly understand it 100%.
Can I add my external hard drive to it, and play my music on the hard drive?
I'm guessing it's a similar idea as plugging in an USB thumb drive with same control?

If so that's a wonderful feature.

Thanks

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USB and eSATA work very much the same. External hard drives come with both connection types. Some USB drives can be powered by the port itself, although OPPO recommends external power. eSATA requires external power.

Also, USB is hot-pluggable on the -93, but eSATA is not. Meaning you can connect and disconnect USB devices while the player is running, but not eSATA. We expect the -95 will have similar function.

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that is the surprising impression I got from the tech fellow I spoke to at Parasound as well. Rather interesting given the very good review Kal Rubinson gave the P7. Thnx, to you guys for helping me out with this complex upgrade.

I think Kal's review was correct in that the P7 does sound excellent with the added benefit of two 7.1 analog inputs. With the thoughts that the 2100 and the P7 sound close for 2CH shows what a great preamp the 2100 is for the cost.

I have had 7-8 (can't remember) 2CH preamps with HT Bypass in my system. I have had the 2100 in my system the longest. It certainly is not the end all of all 2CH preamps but the combination of features and SQ are hard to beat for the cost.

My apologies for the off topic discussion.

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By the way, did I miss the price of the 95? I don't remember seeing it anywhere.

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The only mention of price I have seen is $979.00 from the Music Direct catalog or website. If that is the correct price then the 95 is a bargain considering all the upgrades over the 83SE which was $899.00.

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/89632

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...I have had 7-8 (can't remember) 2CH preamps with HT Bypass in my system...My apologies for the off topic discussion.
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The OT discussion is my fault, so I have started a new thread here. Bill, I hope you will post your experiences with those preamps there. Thnx again.

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USB and eSATA work very much the same. External hard drives come with both connection types. Some USB drives can be powered by the port itself, although OPPO recommends external power. eSATA requires external power.

Also, USB is hot-pluggable on the -93, but eSATA is not. Meaning you can connect and disconnect USB devices while the player is running, but not eSATA. We expect the -95 will have similar function.

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Thanks seems straight forward than, much like the USB drive then..

Thanks

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Hi, Can i stream wireless from a lapto to a BDP-93 or 95 to use the internal DAC of the Oppo?

If yes, can i control my laptop with an application like plugplayer with my ipod touch?

If no, is there an app to contro the oppo with an ipod touch?

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Man at some point I am going have really consider integrating a 2ch system in with my current HT setup.

I'd have to consider, maybe sometime late next year, I do want lasik eye surgery, very much and will have to set aside other ambitions to achieve that but this is what I am considering as a 2ch system.

Oppo BDP-95 (BD player for main HT, SACD/CD/HDCD Player for 2ch using XLR)
Emotiva XSP-1 (xlr direct for 2ch, HT bypass for movies.)
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CLD Duet 10's (modified to use 6620 and SEAS L26ROY)
Independent Audio Stand for the above equipment.
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I have also posted this question on the BDP-93 thread, but received no answer.

I want to use this player as multi standard player, with both HDMI and analog for audio, for both Blurays and SA-CD's. I would connect the hdmi 1 to a flat screen tv. I would conncet hdmi 2 to a processor (without dsd capability) and also the multi analog outs to the same processor. I want to use the hdmi 2 with Bluray pictures to let the processor do the DA, as well as put in a delay to get proper lipsync with the tv picture.
I also want to use the set up for pure audio. Then I also use the processor with pure analog input and only volume control. But of course the hdmi2 is then still connected to the processor. My question is what does the player output when playing SA-CD multichannel (or stereo) through the analog out? Does it use the DSD to convert directly to analog or does it first convert to pcm and then to analog? This last situation is the case with the BDP-83 and it seems to me defeating the quality of SA-CD playback.
This last situation I do not want and my purchase of the seemingly very well designed BDP-95 with respect to analog output, will depend on it.
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