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I see Costco now has the Sony BDP-BX58 in stock(which is the Warehouse equivalent of upcoming Sony BDP-S580).

Anyone purchased on of these units yet? Comments or reviews?

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My Costco only has the BX37s in stock, but I'm waiting for the BX58s. Where did you see these units and what was the price?
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My Costco only has the BX37s in stock, but I'm waiting for the BX58s. Where did you see these units and what was the price?

Canoga Park, CA (Los Angeles - San Fernando Valley). I'm pretty sure the price was $179.00.

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Thanks for the heads-up. I've heard that the X80s were a minor step up from the X70s. So if you were in the market for the 2010 model, you can't really lose with the 2011 edition.
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I bought the BX-57 last week at Costco
I thought it was a very good deal @ 139.95
Today I came by to buy another one, and found out they are out of BX-57
but they have BX-58 at $179

Not sure if there is any major changes, but I notice that the remote is
markedly different: smaller
Haven't bought the BX-58 yet

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BJs in my area also has the BX-58 for $179.99.

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This Sony Blu-Ray player model BDP-S580 was just released on 3-11-11.
Does anybody have one of these to report on?
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I bought one a few weeks ago at best buy. It was sitting there with the new pannys. Chose it over the panny because the panny had the door flap and the sony did not. I am very happy with this player so far. It is leaps and bounds better than my old 1600 samsung. Wireless works great, bootup time is very fast and image quality is great.

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Somone on the bluray forums says the S580 tends to overheat. Is this true? If you have yours hooked up to an a/v receiver, do you have HDMI Deep Color set to AUTO or OFF? Reason I say, is over the last 2 months, people have had issues with 2 of the prior firmware updates that affected the S570, which caused picture drop outs for many of us. Personally, I'd rather have the HDMI Deep Color set to AUTO since my tv supports this. I was forced to turn it OFF since having set to AUTO was the causing the picture drop outs.
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Recently picked up one of these units at Costco and have been very happy with it. For those who are curious, the drive is quiet - especially compared to the 570/X57.

I was under the impression that this player had 1GB on board storage for BD-Live. However, when I've attempted to access the feature, I get a message saying that the player lacks sufficient memory to access the BD-Live content. When I plug in a thumbdrive, I have no problems. I'm kind of a newbie at this BD-Live stuff - and it doesn't appear like I'm missing much - but is there something that I'm missing? I thought 1GB was enough.

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http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...91826#features

It appears that the 1GB storage information is no longer listed on the sony website for the BDP-S580. This is odd.
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I haven't experienced any kind of overheating with the unit. Seems to run cool and quiet for me. I ran it for several hours yesterday without issue.

I do have mine hooked to my Pioneer VSX-23 and the only issue I had was on the initial setup. I had to plug the player directly into my TV cause the picture wouldn't display on first bootup. Once I had ran the simple setup I plugged it back into the reciever and haven't had any picture issues since. My Deep Color is set to auto.

There was also a firmware update waiting for me when I ran the wireless setup for the first time which I find odd for a brand new player but whatever.

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Recently picked up one of these units at Costco and have been very happy with it. For those who are curious, the drive is quiet - especially compared to the 570/X57.

I was under the impression that this player had 1GB on board storage for BD-Live. However, when I've attempted to access the feature, I get a message saying that the player lacks sufficient memory to access the BD-Live content. When I plug in a thumbdrive, I have no problems. I'm kind of a newbie at this BD-Live stuff - and it doesn't appear like I'm missing much - but is there something that I'm missing? I thought 1GB was enough.

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http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...91826#features

It appears that the 1GB storage information is no longer listed on the sony website for the BDP-S580. This is odd.

This is unsettling... the S570 had 1GB of onboard storage, right? Why would Sony go backwards?

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Damn i dont know which one to get the bdp-570 or the bdp-s580 with some of the stuff removed with the new player.

Any thoughts?
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Were there reports of problems with the S570's onboard storage? BD-Live is not really a "must have" feature to me and I already have a thumb-drive, so it isn't a deal breaker. However, it is still puzzling.

To the 580's credit, it seems like the streaming video support is much more comprehensive than the 570 model.
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Damn i dont know which one to get the bdp-570 or the bdp-s580 with some of the stuff removed with the new player.

Any thoughts?

I'm wondering the exact same thing.

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Were there reports of problems with the S570's onboard storage? BD-Live is not really a "must have" feature to me and I already have a thumb-drive, so it isn't a deal breaker. However, it is still puzzling.

To the 580's credit, it seems like the streaming video support is much more comprehensive than the 570 model.

Do you have any info (or a source) for the comment about improved streaming video support? I'm interested.

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So it's confirmed right, this unit lacks the 1GB storage?
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So it's confirmed right, this unit lacks the 1GB storage?

Not confirmed at all, it's just one person's suspicion. More information is needed.

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Not confirmed at all, it's just one person's suspicion. More information is needed.

Check the sony website. The 580 lacks the onboard storage. There is no mention of it in the booklet, nor is there a footnote describing the storage anywhere to be found on the box or on the promotional website. I tried both the Social Network and Inception last night and both told me that I lacked sufficient storage to access the BD-Live features. Once I inserted my thumbdrive, I had no problem accessing BD-Live content.

As for the codecs, Xvid ".avi" support was added and was not present in the S570 - per the manual which can be found @ page 33 Here

The s580 manual can be found @ page 30 Here

I hope this information is helpful.

Lastly, the xrossmediabar is a lil sluggish on the 580, but that might be due to infant firmware.

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More bad news. Seems like the wireless card was downgraded in the 580 as well.

S570
Frequency range:
U.S. models:
2.4 GHz band: Channels 1-11
5 GHz band: Channels 36-64, 100-140,
149-165

S580
Wireless (BDP-S580/BX58 only)
Wireless LAN standard:
IEEE 802.11 b/g/n
Frequency range:
2.4 GHz band: Channels 1-1

Losing out on the 5 Ghz band means less speed in the long run for those with dual-band routers. Now I'm getting disappointed for waiting for the 580.
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That's not good to hear. Why would Sony downgrade from their previous model? I might have to wait a little longer for the S780 due in April. Maybe that would be the improvement over this unit and the 570?
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Running list of what the S580 has lost compared to the S570:

HD output from component --> industry rule
5 Ghz wireless
1 GB onboard storage for BD-Live
Optical Out Audio

Wish I could get in my time machine and snag a discounted BX57 from Costco instead of the 580 like I have now...
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I appreciate the information, kellte2. This is very disappointing to hear. I was anxiously awaiting the S580, hoping for improvements over the S570 in noise and streaming abilities.

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I appreciate the information, kellte2. This is very disappointing to hear. I was anxiously awaiting the S580, hoping for improvements over the S570 in noise and streaming abilities.

I will check on Netflix streaming later this evening and post my findings. I can't compare directly to the S570 (though I have read about how bad it was), but I will see if I can compare to a good netflix player, the xbox 360.
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This should be easy to confirm. Under settings, go to the BD/DVD viewing settings and select BD Data Jack Selection. If there's not an option for internal memory, then it is confirmed the player does not have internal memory. If true, that would be a damn shame. When the S580 was announced back in January, Sony confirmed the player would have 1GB of internal memory. I guess with the player being cheaper this year, Sony had to cut corners somewhere....
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This should be easy to confirm. Under settings, go to the BD/DVD viewing settings and select BD Data Jack Selection. If there's not an option for internal memory, then it is confirmed the player does not have internal memory. If true, that would be a damn shame. When the S580 was announced back in January, Sony confirmed the player would have 1GB of internal memory. I guess with the player being cheaper this year, Sony had to cut corners somewhere....

Just checked following your instructions. No internal memory option. For that matter, there is no jack selection.
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i guess i go with the s570 since im mostly gunna be using it to stream videos from the pc and blurays. My isp is too slow for netflix right now but i can always use my 360 for the better interface
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The 580 can't be completely inferior, can it? On debating returning the 580 to costco at this point...
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What about NTFS drive support? Is it confirmed or not.

As for why 580 lacks so much, it is the common practice to save cost and lower price in order to compete with other makers. In return, they typically offer a little bit more feature in software.

FYI, the new Panny BDT110 netflix supports DD Plus 5.1 audio, a feature that only PS3 has today, and also search feature which both PS3 and Xbox 360 have. Would like to know what's new in S580's Netflix offering. I had BX57 and its Netflix feature is really lacking: only instant queue viewing. No information about whether or not a show is HD.
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What about NTFS drive support? Is it confirmed or not.

As for why 580 lacks so much, it is the common practice to save cost and lower price in order to compete with other makers. In return, they typically offer a little bit more feature in software.

FYI, the new Panny BDT110 netflix supports DD Plus 5.1 audio, a feature that only PS3 has today, and also search feature which both PS3 and Xbox 360 have. Would like to know what's new in S580's Netflix offering. I had BX57 and its Netflix feature is really lacking: only instant queue viewing. No information about whether or not a show is HD.

Netflix on the S580...

HD is displayed under the show/movie. However, buffering issues still arise. I put on Above the Law to get a good laugh at a truly bad movie and it had to rebuffer about 3 times in less than 10 minutes. I'm used to my Xbox 360 for Netflix and this was a huge surprise/disappointment. However, I'm wireless with the 580 at this point and have hard-wired my 360, so this is probably the difference.

NTFS is supposedly in according to the manual, but I haven't tested it.
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Running list of what the S580 has lost compared to the S570:

HD output from component --> industry rule
5 Ghz wireless
1 GB onboard storage for BD-Live
Optical Out Audio

Wish I could get in my time machine and snag a discounted BX57 from Costco instead of the 580 like I have now...

That's too many features lost IMO. I definitely WILL NOT buy this now.

I haven't given up on Sony yet, so my next question is; Will the S780 have 1GB of storage? I'm hoping the wireless card on the 780 will remain the same as the 770.
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On sale for 159.99 at Costco. Makes it slightly more palatable ...
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