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post #1 of 189 Old 04-20-2011, 01:03 AM - Thread Starter
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Anyone knows when this one will hit the market??Seems a hybrid between a 3D bluray player and a mediaplayer,and looks nice from what i read about it untill now.But i don't see an ETA?

Anyone of you guru's has an insight on things?
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Bumping this old thread because I recently became aware of this unit. Here is a link to it's product page on the ASUS website. This unit looks very nice for a 3D Blu-Ray player and combination HD Media Player. Good specs and nice features, including Dual HDMI. I hope this unit comes to the US market soon.

http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Blura...S700/#overview

Disc Playback Blu-ray 3D
BD Live/Bouns View
Disc Media Support : BD-ROM, BD-R/RE, AVCHD, DVD-Video SL/DL, DVD-R/-R DL/-RW, DVD+R/+R DL, Audio CD/CD-R/-RW
Video Qdeo Video Post Processor : Yes
Video D/A Converter : 12bit/300MHz
Video Quality Enhancement : Video Noise Reduction, De-interlacing, DVD Video Upscaling, Natural Depth Expansion, Adaptive Contrast Enhancement, Intelligent Color Remapping, x.v.Colour, Deep Colour
Decorder Support : MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG 4 SP/ASP, H.264, VC-1, RMVB
Audio Audio D/A Converter : 24bit/192KHz
Pure Audio Mode : Yes
Separated Audio/Video HDMI Output : Yes
Analog Output SNR : >115 dB
Analog Output THD+N : <0.0025 %
Decorder Support : Dolby Digital AC3, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby True HD, DTS, DTS HD Master Audio, MP3, WMA, WAV, AAC, HE-AAC, FLAC, LPCM, OGG, AIFF
File Media Playback USB external HDD / USB Drive Stroage File System Support : EXT3, FAT16, FAT32, NTFS
Video Files Suffix Extension : .avi, .asf, .mp4, .m4v, .mpg, .mpeg, .ts, .mts, .m2ts,, .mov, .divx, .mkv, .vob+ifo, .wmv, .rmvb, .flv, BD-ISO, DVD-ISO
Audio Files Suffix Extension : .mp3, .wav, .wma, .aac, .aiff, .flac, .mka, .m4a, .ogg
Image Files Suffix Extension : .bmp, .tif, .tiff, .jpg, .jpeg, .png, .gif
Subtitle Suffix : .srt, .sub+.idx, .pgs, .smi , .ssa
Networking DLNA : ver 1.5 DMP
Wi-Fi Wireless Support : Built-in ( 802.11n )
Ethernet : 10/100 Base T
Embedded Network Services : YouTube, Radio, Flickr, Picasa
Front I/O Ports 1 x USB Input(s)
Back I/O Ports 2 x HDMI Output(s)
1 x Composite Video Output(s)
1 x Component Video Output(s) (Y/Pb/Pr)
1 x Digital Audio Optical Output(s)
1 x Digital Audio Coaxial Output(s)
1 x USB Input(s)
1 x Ethernet Connection(s)
1 x Analog Audio 2ch Output(s)
Internal Flash Storage 2GB
Power Input Power : AC 100-240V 50/60Hz
Power Consumption (Operation/Standby) : 28 W / 0.5 W
Accessories Power Cord
Audio/Video Cable
Remote Control (Backlight)
2 x AAA Batteries
Warranty Card
Quick Start Guide
Owner's Manual
Dimensions 430 x50 x252 mm (WxDxH)
Weight 3 kgw
Note Composite Video Output, Component Video Outputs(Y/Pb/Pr), Digital Audio Coaxial Output, and Analog Audio 2ch Output are gold-plated terminals.
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Plays BD ISO via USB, presumably. Fantastic!

What's the MSRP in the UK?
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Specs look to me like an Oppo clone.
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Specs look to me like an Oppo clone.

Do Oppos play BD ISOs that are stored on an external USB hard drive?
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I continue to be very interested in this player. Here's a link to a guy who is posting a piecemeal review of the player (so far, so good):
http://techinstyle.tv/products/home-...r-well-played/

And here's a nice english translation of a Russian site's review of the player, including very detailed photos of the unit's internals:
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.easycom.com.ua/mmedia/obzor_blu-ray_hd-mediapleera_asus_o!play_bds-700/%3Flang%3Dru&ei=UcjSTrnuMsiI2gWltPmNBg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CIEBEO4BMAY&prev=/search%3Fq%3DAsus%2BBDS%2B700%2Bprice%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa fe%3Doff%26sa%3DX%26tbo%3D1%26biw%3D717%26bih%3D613%26tbs%3D qdr:m%26prmd%3Dimvns

So far I'm impressed, except for one thing:
"............................viewing the video leaves a positive impression, except for a reproduction of Blu-ray-video from the ISO-images from an external drive, as Speed ​​USB 2.0 (strange that the manufacturer has not implemented support for standard USB 3.0) is simply unable to provide the required data rate. Plays Blu-ray-drive through the drive does not show such defects."

Our USB 2 external-drive BD ISOs have only AC3 audio, so perhaps their playback would be perfect (as they do on our HTPC via USB 2) although I'd want to know this with certainty before buying any new stand-alone player.
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So far I'm impressed, except for one thing:
"............................viewing the video leaves a positive impression, except for a reproduction of Blu-ray-video from the ISO-images from an external drive, as Speed ​​USB 2.0 (strange that the manufacturer has not implemented support for standard USB 3.0) is simply unable to provide the required data rate. Plays Blu-ray-drive through the drive does not show such defects."

USB 2.0 is more than capable of streaming data at 50Mbps continously. This should not be a problem at all.

I'm more worried about the apparent lack of network support. Sure, it has DLNA support, but it doesn't seem like it's able to play files from a regular file server over SMB or NFS.
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I am worried about capacity of this device to convert 3d mkv files (SBS for example) inside. If this device plays on 2d and TV will be change it to see on 3D, it can be a problem on mkv SBS 3D subtitles, such as Avatar.
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USB 2.0 is more than capable of streaming data at 50Mbps continously. This should not be a problem at all.

I'm more worried about the apparent lack of network support. Sure, it has DLNA support, but it doesn't seem like it's able to play files from a regular file server over SMB or NFS.

Maybe this will answer your question:
http://techinstyle.tv/products/home-...-media-player/
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Do Oppos play BD ISOs that are stored on an external USB hard drive?

Yes.
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Yes.

Thanks! While I'm at it, do any others?

BTW, more of the piecemeal review of streaming from PC:
http://techinstyle.tv/products/home-...-media-player/
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The latest on streaming files:
http://techinstyle.tv/products/home-...-media-player/

I wish the reviewer had said specifically over what connection the BD files were streamed, but one has to assume that it was over USB 2.
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I was interested in this unit until I looked at the manual. It appears that it does not support SMB direct network shares, only DLNA. Can anyone confirm?

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But Asus BDS-500/700 is still not available in market...
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But Asus BDS-500/700 is still not available in market...

Upcoming BD player releases are more than often the lifeblood of pure-speculation threads on AVS. In this case, at least someone got their hands on a production unit and has been kind enough to report their impressions.
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Well, finally, the part of the review that I was waiting for:
http://techinstyle.tv/products/home-...-media-player/

There are just two sentences that bother me a bit:

"There is a minimal loss compared to the movie on the original disc with a slightly darker sheen to the USB played movie. It isn't poor and wouldn't affect your enjoyment of the media at all."

I'd like "minimal loss" and "darker sheen" explained more fully. My wife and I watch on a 120" screen, so "minimal loss" might very well be "unacceptable" to us.
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Specs look to me like an Oppo clone.

...except that it costs less than half of what Oppo costs. 219 in Italy.
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I think techinstyle.tv is an Asus only website. I admit the review seems unbiased however, they don't really make it clear that it's a site sponsored/run by Asus.
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I think techinstyle.tv is an Asus only website. I admit the review seems unbiased however, they don't really make it clear that it's a site sponsored/run by Asus.

What´s that. Website owned by Asus to work as viral marketing or a website run by an Asus fanboy?
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So, am I the only sucker to order one of these things?
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So, am I the only sucker to order one of these things?

Looks good but there are a few things about this player I would like ironed out real soon, especially in light of recent developments on the Oppo front making me want to get a BDP-93 right away.

If it has a licensed BD drive in it, whats to stop the BDA license people from asking them to remove ISO support in the future as they have done with Oppo.
I am pretty sure its a licensed drive as ASUS makes BD drives for PCs and they come with their laptops as well so we know the company is licensed even if you hadnt heard of ASUS before.

3D BD ISO's have been reported to peak at bitrates higher than 50Mb/s so will USB 2.0 really do in this regard and is that why Oppo also included an eSATA port on thier models which this one doesnt have ?

For those people wanting to stream over the LAN, better have an enterprise-class Cisco switch if you want to get BD ISO playback [let alone 3D] as this device only has a 100Mb NIC port onboard.

As far as it being a likely Oppo clone, they definitely got the design idea from there as well as the idea to use the Marvell chip but the internal board layout is markedly different just based on the back port layouts.

If you read the Russian-translated review, you will see that there is no way they could offer it for a lower price than the Oppo just based on the quality of the chips handling all the different tasks.
I just checked the eBay prices and the BDP-93 is only US$20 more than the 700 version of this player which is its closest technical counterpart so its just a toss-up on whether you want to get this one or the Oppo.

FWIW, the HiMedia H900x series players have firmware that is pretty much the same size as this ASUS player. [175MB F/W dl]
This would imply that the ASUS player s/w is definitely based on a Linux OS as opposed to the Oppo F/W which is around half that size.
This also has the added advantage that if ISO support was removed in the future, it could be added back in by extracting, modifying and then re-compiling the f/w the same way someone on the futeko forum demonstrated could be done with the HiMedia devices.

Dont know about the veracity of the Marvell inferiority comment, especially since the holy-of-holies Oppo's uses an earlier version of the same chipset, however, the person making a comment has a solid rep.
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Can anyone confirm that ISO is supported over a network share? I use an NTV550 that streams .iso's perfect over the network and I was hoping to do the same with a high quality Blu ray player.

Also, any chance 3D .iso's would be able to stream over 10/100? Regular Blu-ray .iso's push 100 pretty far as it is.
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In Europe the Oppo 93 is 1000$ so this is apparently looking like a bargain going by specs. I am also a bit worried about the bandwidth of USB 2.0. However I will probably just use my computer directly so it´s not overly critical.

Has anyone read something if you are able to adjust the stereo depth in 3D with this? Review samples seems to have been shipping as of late so some here maybe got it already?

I trust Asus more then Oppo in designing proper analogue outputs. 85SE was nice to listen to but quite coloured when I had it.
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If it has a licensed BD drive in it, whats to stop the BDA license people from asking them to remove ISO support in the future as they have done with Oppo.
...............................

Would you be kind enough to elaborate on this a bit? Has Oppo removed BD ISO support via USB and eSATA?

Thanks.
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well i ordered the 700 to play with. I will let you know if/when it arrives and its capabilities. a $469 gamble but i need a new toy to play with. If anyone other than cgigate has some questions, feel free to pm me and I will do my best to answer them for you!
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well i ordered the 700 to play with. I will let you know if/when it arrives and its capabilities. a $469 gamble but i need a new toy to play with. If anyone other than cgigate has some questions, feel free to pm me and I will do my best to answer them for you!

I'm really looking forward to your opinion on it. If you have an Oppo, it would be great to do a side-by-side comparison.
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