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post #1231 of 1848 Old 02-20-2012, 02:46 PM
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Sounds absolutely crazy, that you`d need to pay for ANY update...
I suggest to contact Pio US and send them these 3 emails from Pio EU:

1. "Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email, your enquiry has been registered in our system
under reference number:
Pioneer ticket ref nr: 2386

Dear Mr. Lehotsky

It's been a while since we contacted you about the problem of AV receivers
powering off while LAN was connected. It took a long time collect data
when this problem occurred, to investigate the root cause of this problem
and then to reprogram the firmware to fix this problem. The last 3 weeks
we tested a beta firmware. It needed to be so long because we wanted to
make sure that it solves this issue and this problem could occur a few
times a day or only once a week, so testing took quite long.

Since 23 jan 2012 however, firmware 0.112 is made available for service
center to fix this issue:

VERSION : 0.112 (MAIN: 1.009, SUB: 1.207, DSP: 1.003) released on Jan 23,
2012

Fixes the following issues.
- The power turns off and on automatically when connecting to certain BDP
(BDP-440/52FD,
Philips BDP8000, etc.) with LAN (Related QI : B1067206)

VSX-1020-K/FLXCN
VSX-1020-K/SYXCN5
VSX-1020-K/UXCNCB
VSX-1025-K/CUXCN
VSX-1025-K/SYXCN5
VSX-30/UXCNCB
VSX-31/UXCNCB
VSX-920-K/AXCN5
VSX-920-K/FLXCN
VSX-920-K/SYXCN5
VSX-925-K/CUXCN
SC-35/UXJCB
SC-1525-K/CUXJ
SC-LX73/SYXJ5
SC-LX73/DLPWXJ
SC-LX73/AXJ5
SC-LX73/FXJ
VSX-33/UXJCB
VSX-32/UXJCB
VSX-1325-K/CUXJ
VSX-1125-K/CUXJ
VSX-1120-K/UXJCB
VSX-LX53/AXJ5
VSX-LX53/FXJ
VSX-LX53/SYXJ5
VSX-LX53/DLPWXJ
VSX-2020-K/SYXJ5

I'm sorry to hear that you felt the urge to sell your VSX-1120. I wanted
to be able to offer you a solution for this issue sooner. That said, the
VSX-1121 doesn't have this (or any other known) problems, so enjoy.

Please note that it is not possible to reply to this message. Should you
wish to reply, then please contact us at:
http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/su...ntactform.html
ensuring that you fill in the reference number, which will allow us to
respond more effeciently.

Best regards

Pioneer Europe Customer & Service Support"



2. "Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email, your enquiry has been registered in our system
under reference number:
Pioneer ticket ref nr: 2359

I'm sorry, I made a mistake in previous e-mail. Because of differences in
internal structure, there are 2 firmware versions available to fix the
power off issue when LAN is connected:

VERSION: 0.112

VSX-1020-K/FLXCN
VSX-1020-K/SYXCN5
VSX-1020-K/UXCNCB
VSX-1025-K/CUXCN
VSX-1025-K/SYXCN5
VSX-30/UXCNCB
VSX-31/UXCNCB
VSX-920-K/AXCN5
VSX-920-K/FLXCN
VSX-920-K/SYXCN5
VSX-925-K/CUXCN


VERSION: 0.111

SC-35/UXJCB
SC-1525-K/CUXJ
SC-LX73/SYXJ5
SC-LX73/DLPWXJ
SC-LX73/AXJ5
SC-LX73/FXJ
VSX-33/UXJCB
VSX-32/UXJCB
VSX-1325-K/CUXJ
VSX-1125-K/CUXJ
VSX-1120-K/UXJCB
VSX-LX53/AXJ5
VSX-LX53/FXJ
VSX-LX53/SYXJ5
VSX-LX53/DLPWXJ
VSX-2020-K/SYXJ5

In case of your American VSX-1020 you'll need version 0.111 Please
understand that this is not a "lower/older" version of 0.112. It's the
same firmware but for different hardware.

With kind regards,

Please note that it is not possible to reply to this message. Should you
wish to reply, then please contact us at:
http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/su...ntactform.html
ensuring that you fill in the reference number, which will allow us to
respond more effeciently.

Best regards

Pioneer Europe Customer & Service Support"


3. "Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email, your enquiry has been registered in our system
under reference number:
Pioneer ticket ref nr: 2417

Sorry for the delayed reply. The update for the VSX should be performed by
an authorized service center from Pioneer. It is not possible to carry-out
this update yourself as it requires some jigs which are not available to
end consumers. Therefore the update is also not published on our website
for this matter.


As for the remote responsiveness, we actually opened up the remote of the
BDP-LX55 to check. The problem is not with the unit itself but rather with
the remote control. As this is hardware related it will be unlikely that it
can be solved. When you point the remote straight to the unit there should
not be any problem with it, only when you hold it up or down. Otherwise you
can always use any other Pioneer control or universal remote as
countermeasure.


Please note that it is not possible to reply to this message. Should you
wish to reply, then please contact us at:
http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/su...ntactform.html
ensuring that you fill in the reference number, which will allow us to
respond more effeciently.

Best regards

Pioneer Europe Customer & Service Support"


No word about paying for anything...
If they intend to release firmware updates for money, they could easily close the production...no one would buy a Pio product, ever...

and I`m not so convinced that it`s actually an AVR`s problem...they should definitely come up with something for the BDPs, at the first place...
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I received this email on the problem, I will copy and paste what you did and see what they say. I'll also have to try what they suggested:


Thank you for contacting Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc.

Make sure that the HDMI Control has been turned off on the receiver. The Control feature between the two devices can trigger the receiver or even in some cases the player to power on/off.


Thank You,

Gill
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What I really need to know is when the new firmware of BDP-53/LX-55 be released to fix the sound drop out problem that's plaguing literally every single unit I've encountered this month.

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Hi --
our goal is to drive BDP-140 player from an Extron IP Link 250 controller; can anyone point me to right direction to download a "Command Protocol Driver" for BDP-140 / BDP-440?

Many thanks,
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Ok, so last year was a bit of a dud with the Sharp merger and then the rushed-to-market 3D players. So let's see what this year brings.

Bad product shots are all I've seen so far, but the new look is very nice, and consistent across the range. They also match the new VSX and SC receivers.

BDP-140


BDP-440


BDP-LX55


BDP-140:
3D Playback
SACD Support
Network Functions (DLNA, YouTube etc...)
PC File Playback (DivX plus HD etc)
iControl AV2 Control App
Quick Response
Wi-Fi Connection (Via Optional Adaptor)
Sound Retriever Link
Stream Smoother Link

BDP-440 adds
PQLS Bitstream Multi-Channel
Aluminium Front Panel
IP Control

BDP-LX55 adds
QDEO Video Processor
Twin HDMI Outputs
RS232 Connection
High Grade Audio Parts
Armoured Chassis

This is all preliminary information only.

Judging by the specs, I think this year seems a lot more interesting. They tick all the requirement boxes for 3D, DLNA, networking.

SACD support not only in the high-end, but all the way down to the entry level player is a nice touch. That alone goes a fair way in separating the brand from the Panasonic/Samsung/LG brands towards an enthusiast market without alienating the mass market.

The LX / Elite model actually stands out this year. Twin HDMI is a proper high-end feature. Upgraded video processing is a proper high-end feature.

The weak model appears to be the mid-range BDP-440. Not much that distinguishes it from the entry-level BDP-140. If I'd been in charge I would probably have canned the wifi for the 140 just to set it apart. Or included the wifi dongle with the 440.

Estimated recommended retail prices
BDP-140 - $199
BDP-440 - $299
BDP-LX55 - $399-$499 (There's probably two Elite versions but only one LX)

Hi :

I called pioneer today and asked about the BDP-LX55 release date. I was told that the LX55 will not be sold or released in the U.S. only in Europe.

Bummer !!
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Lx55=53fd

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Hi --
our goal is to drive BDP-140 player from an Extron IP Link 250 controller; can anyone point me to right direction to download a "Command Protocol Driver" for BDP-140 / BDP-440?

Many thanks,
Alex/

You can find the file in some post in this thread...
I was asking for this before and one guy from here provided it to me...
I´m just unsure about the post no., you need to check the first half of the thread...
it´s a file with complete IP commands for both BDP-140 and 440..

speaking of which, do you guys have some clue on how to enable WAKE ON LAN in the BDP-440/52FD?
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our goal is to drive BDP-140 player from an Extron IP Link 250 controller; can anyone point me to right direction to download a "Command Protocol Driver" for BDP-140 / BDP-440?

Many thanks,
Alex/
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You can find the file in some post in this thread...
I was asking for this before and one guy from here provided it to me...
I´m just unsure about the post no., you need to check the first half of the thread...
it´s a file with complete IP commands for both BDP-140 and 440..

speaking of which, do you guys have some clue on how to enable WAKE ON LAN in the BDP-440/52FD?
Actually I posted it for someone in the "Pioneer Elite BDP-52FD and BDP-53FD Owners' Thread" thread.

Anyways, here it is again:

 

2011 Blu-ray IP & RS-232 Commands BDP140_BDP52FD.pdf 57.041015625k . file
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Actually I posted it for someone in the "Pioneer Elite BDP-52FD and BDP-53FD Owners' Thread" thread.

Anyways, here it is again:

I guess you posted it for me somewhere in this thread, too
that`s what I was referring to...
thx anyway
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New firmware for the BDP-LX55 in Europe:
http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/support/sof...l#download_271
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New firmware for the BDP-LX55 in Europe:
http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/support/sof...l#download_271

... which doesn't fix anything and introduces Cinavia the nastiest piece of DRM stuff ever.
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it fixes the "sound cutting in and out" problem plagued on many players with January and February built, especially when PQLS is activated.

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..... still no CD track number on the display .... no chapter number Blu-ray and DVD

Pioneer engineers .... wake up!
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that sucks
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Where the hell is a proper FW update for both BDP-440/LX55???

What about DLNA instability/freezing, poor remote responsiveness, LAN-associated AVR dropouts, no tracks/folders on front display, SACD playback issues....???

It`s been 6 months since the BDP-440 hit the shelves in the EU, some 4,5 months since the BDP-LX55`s release...they really must be totally crazy...
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Where the hell is a proper FW update for both BDP-440/LX55???

What about DLNA instability/freezing, poor remote responsiveness, LAN-associated AVR dropouts, no tracks/folders on front display, SACD playback issues....???

It`s been 6 months since the BDP-440 hit the shelves in the EU, some 4,5 months since the BDP-LX55`s release...they really must be totally crazy...

It's because these players are not built by Pioneer , they are built by TCL CORP, ie cheap made & lack of support
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Pioneer should've pushed TCL Corp to update the firmware accordingly based on Pioneer's insistence and needs. But I bet you that the legal insistence is not included in the initial contract.

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poor b......s

why the hell would they state "these really ARE our own Pio devices"??
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given the price of the unit you would of thought that pioneer would of thought of something before outsourcing builds
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poor b......s

why the hell would they state "these really ARE our own Pio devices"??

I told you guys from the beginning but you guys chose to listen Wakamo.

Of course he is going to say that it's developed by Pioneer... He works for Pioneer.

Regardless, I still think the BDP-53/LX55 is the best player out there, especially for the money and I will still back/recommend a good product regardless of brand and/or who manufactures them.

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I told you guys from the beginning but you guys chose to listen Wakamo.

Of course he is going to say that it's developed by Pioneer... He works for Pioneer.

Regardless, I still think the BDP-53/LX55 is the best player out there, especially for the money and I will still back/recommend a good product regardless of brand and/or who manufactures them.

yep, I remember
and I do think the same way, paid some 213 EUR (270 USD) for my BDP-440 (I really didn`t need the Qdeo in BDP-53/LX55)...there`s no such universal player with similar performance, PQLS, compressed media playback, etc at the price...
we just need it to work properly, no damn freezing, no LAN-associated issues, some performance improvements...that`s it...
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I updated a BDP-53FD in our store today. The update was very fast and I now have discrete IR "On" and "Off" for the unit. Much preferred to a toggle power and Power-Up on Play command. Of course, that is still there as well.

I will be bringing my SACD collection and checking to see if any of the problems I was experiencing are now fixed.

I look forward to seeing the results.
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can anybody who are using BDP-53FD confirm whether this player will playback PAL and/or 1080i/50 natively? I use the BDP-LX55 so it obviously play PAL and 1080i/50

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I've been looking at the BDP-440's that are on EBAY that have been altered for our voltage and are zone free. Any thoughts or comments on these?

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I've been looking at the BDP-440's that are on EBAY that have been altered for our voltage and are zone free. Any thoughts or comments on these?

The EU BDP-440s are made 100-240V/50Hz/60Hz so don´t worry about voltage or PAL/NTSC and if you find multi-region that´s even better (if you need MR, of course)
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After some online investigting, I notice that these players have a similar user interface to Philips BD players. See if this multi-region hack works for you guys:

1. Unload any discs.

2. Close the tray.

3. Press "HOME MENU."

4. Enter the numerical sequence on your remote, 1389310.

5. Press "HOME MENU" to exit.

6. To confirm the change, press "HOME MENU."

7. Enter the numerical sequence on your remote, 8520. You will see the current region.

I hope this works for you guys. However, now that I don't have the player, it would just be my luck that the procedure works and I'd wish I had kept the damn player and put up with its bs!
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I ordered a BDP-440 today and should have it Tuesday.

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After some online investigting, I notice that these players have a similar user interface to Philips BD players. See if this multi-region hack works for you guys:

1. Unload any discs.

2. Close the tray.

3. Press "HOME MENU."

4. Enter the numerical sequence on your remote, 1389310.

5. Press "HOME MENU" to exit.

6. To confirm the change, press "HOME MENU."

7. Enter the numerical sequence on your remote, 8520. You will see the current region.

I hope this works for you guys. However, now that I don't have the player, it would just be my luck that the procedure works and I'd wish I had kept the damn player and put up with its bs!

Interesting...I´m out of town for the weekend but I´ll definitely try this when I´m back...
though I communicated with one UK retailer before who told me what´s the DVD MR procedure for Pio BDPs..you also need to press Home Menu and some numbers on a remote a few times, however, you need to involve codes from the "hack remote"
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-DV...item1c175f53a4
this very remote is allegedly confirmed to work with the newest Pio BDPs, too...
I´ll try this too, in case your scenario didn´t work, and post the procedure here if I was succesful..
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While i was googling for n-50 network player, i came across a website and saw a photo of n-50 network player.

Under the n-50 were two pioneer units which looked like a stereo amplifier and a cd player and they cosmetically matched the n-50.

Does anybody know about new pioneer stereo components? or did anyone who have been at IFA ever seen these components?

Off-topic and a bit late, but I finally have something about this. That's an A-30 integrated stereo amplifier. Workhorse style unit, no tuner, no digital processing, no display - The kind you keep a few decades. The remote on top belongs to the A-30 and has separate dedicated controls for the network player and SACD player which is why it has so many buttons.

Also comes in black.

A-30 - 175W
70+70W (20-20k 4Ω .1%)
40+40W (20-20k 8Ω 0.05%)
Signal to Noise 105dB

There's two other ones :
A-20 (4Ω 50W / 8Ω 30W) 135W
A-10 (basically A-20 without remote control)

I guess they're finally replacing their awful looking 80's style A109/209/etc. since they upgraded the G-clef range not too long ago, IIRC. That would put the price in the hundreds, not thousands.

Below that is a matching SACD player. No matching tuner, the network player is the modern equivalent.
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After some online investigting, I notice that these players have a similar user interface to Philips BD players. See if this multi-region hack works for you guys:

1. Unload any discs.

2. Close the tray.

3. Press "HOME MENU."

4. Enter the numerical sequence on your remote, 1389310.

5. Press "HOME MENU" to exit.

6. To confirm the change, press "HOME MENU."

7. Enter the numerical sequence on your remote, 8520. You will see the current region.

I hope this works for you guys. However, now that I don't have the player, it would just be my luck that the procedure works and I'd wish I had kept the damn player and put up with its bs!

Unfortunately, this doesn`t work...
my EU BDP-440 is still reg 2 for DVDs
I should have the "hack remote" within a week, I`m curious what it brings...
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