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post #541 of 1172 Old 12-18-2012, 04:40 PM
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As far as I can tell, the Sony has WiFi, which I don't and will not need. It also doesn't have the great zoom presets that the Oppo has. I definitely want this feature in any new player.

It's interesting that you mention the zoom functionality. I value this functionality as much as I do all the other functions/features in my Oppos and I would gladly pay the premium for it.smile.gif

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As has already been said: Oppo already tried this and it FAILED. The BDP-80 was a great transport that nobody bought.

First, I must apologize. We're buying a 65" Samsung 3D TV, so we need a 3D feature. Not quite "barebone".

For BD playback on our RS1 we use an HTPC. Otherwise, we probably would have sprung for the 80 when it was current.

Here's a link to a photo of the back of the BDP-80:
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-80/images/Blu-ray-BDP-80_back_hr.jpg
As far as I can tell, those are analog audio outs, correct? If they are, I don't need them or, for that matter, the analog video outs. Just give me HDMI and the digital audio outs, please.

Most importantly, when it was availble, how much did Oppo sell the 80 for?

The bang for the buck in BD players nowadays is simply amazing. Last week we bought a Toshiba 2D BD player for the LCD in front of our treadmill. It has on its back only an ethernet connection and HDMI and spdif outputs. Its video output is amazingly good for a $67 unit!! It has a 2x, 4x, etc. zoom, but only the 2x is of any real use, and that only for 2.75:1 movies (unless there is a nipple you want to fill the screen with) and, even in the case of 2.75:1 movies, I'd like less zoom than 2x. Oppo's presets are much more useful, IMO.

But I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Toshiba's lifespan was shorter than that of a mosquito and here is where the Oppo's no doubt greater cost could/would be justified.
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Most importantly, when it was availble, how much did Oppo sell the 80 for?

$289, I think. $279?

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$289, I think. $279?
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I seem to remember paying around that for our 981 DVD-only player ................. and I'd probably shell out that much again for a long-lived BDP-101.

As an added attraction, perhaps Oppo should make it ultra-small, like the new Samsung BD external reader/burner I just bought. (I still can't believe a thing that size can do what it does.) That way Oppo would have both extremes in size covered.
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Oppo 103/105 are missing a feature which was implemented in Oppo 9X models. What happened to "making a temporary playlist using an external hard drive" feature?

It'd be very nice and thoughtful of Oppo to add that old feature in their next firmware upgrade.
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Well, I've had my 103 a while now and am still loving the bejesus out of it. After reviewing my first post in this thread, those are still the main features I'd like upgraded on the Oppo BDP-113. The Oppo 113 I'm sure will include many BR player quality features but I stream more and more from my Oppo. And while many TVs have some streaming capabilities, a robust streaming solution (short of connecting a HTPC directly to my TV) would be highly desirable.
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I think the ability to backup movies in ISO format on server and retrieve onto the player is vastly overrated.
I seldom watch a movie more than once, so its of no relevance to me.
I couldnt care about that feature, which is why I sold my Oppo BDP-93 last year which was capable of playing ISO files (yeah, I did not chose to upgrade firmware because I wanted to maintain its resale value)
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I think the ability to backup movies in ISO format on server and retrieve onto the player is vastly overrated.
I seldom watch a movie more than once, so its of no relevance to me.

I tend to agree for movies, but it's music ISOs that are the real value for me (Blu-ray, DVD-A, and SACD). If you're not strongly into music, especially multichannel and high-resolution music, and you don't frequently re-watch movies, then ISO playback may not be so critical.

For some, it's whole-house movie streaming using ISOs that is the real value, which of course, the 93/95 couldn't do anyway.
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Incorporate KALEIDESCAPE Capabilities that way the rest of you can enjoy movie servers!
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I'd like to see a good interface for Android and IOS; movies with covers and synopsis etc. The Oppo players have better high end media support and PQ than XBMC and when combined with easier setup I think they could really sell more of them with this sort of feature.
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MultEQ XT32 with bass management, with the same DAC for the BDP105, for the new BDP115. Did I miss something? As I understand it, there is no such combo with a reasonable price range. No outboard unit to work with. Maybe this was said recently, but I just didn't see it.
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I figured that Cinavia would be a standard "feature" from now on.

Cinavia is going down hard and fast.... wink.gif

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An LED tray light would be nice so you can see the tray and disc cutout.
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A machine that works out of the box without all the bugs and problems that the 105 has been dealing with.

Sticking with my 95 until then.
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A machine that works out of the box without all the bugs and problems that the 105 has been dealing with.

Sticking with my 95 until then.

For me the 105 has been no more or less than with the 95 and more than makes up for it with its musical and better video performance wink.gif
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No tray a slot for the discs less moving part!
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No tray a slot for the discs less moving part!

I will never purchase a slot-loading player of any kind - they tend to mark/scratch up discs and it's very difficult to remove a disc from the player without touching the bottom surface in some way.

FWIW, I also find the 105 to be far less buggy than my BDP-95 was, particularly when dealing with Pandora.
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No tray a slot for the discs less moving part!
I might as well let a 3 year old use my disc collection for Frisbees. I have seen far too many damaged discs and locked discs in these units (I'm a computer consultant).
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I might as well let a 3 year old use my disc collection for Frisbees. I have seen far too many damaged discs and locked discs in these units (I'm a computer consultant).

Interesting really!
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You are correct, less moving parts is often a good thing but in this case, a drawer would be more beneficial for most. If the drawer was deeper, it would help in centering the disc before closing as misplaced discs can get scratched in a drawer mechanism.

Drives without drawers have a number of issues and are typically worse for the average user, placing the disc in carefully parallel so as to not scratch it on the opening is a big concern - particularly if someone else is using your equipment. Often the spindle will engage at the wrong time or is raised to high before engaging.
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Bring back being able to play SACD-R!!! BTW if somebody know of a sub $150 player that can play SACD-R and bitstream DSD let me know.
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According to this article, the next generation of XBox One and PS4 will have region-free Blu-ray playback capability. If that is true, why can't Oppo have the same?

http://lifehacker.com/what-the-next-generation-of-consoles-means-for-your-hom-583761040
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According to this article, the next generation of XBox One and PS4 will have region-free Blu-ray playback capability. If that is true, why can't Oppo have the same?

http://lifehacker.com/what-the-next-generation-of-consoles-means-for-your-hom-583761040

I think that is incorrect: it may be region free for games, but not videos.

But if it's true: OPPO is bound by licensing. If Sony is getting different licensing then I suspect a lot a manufacturers would be upset.

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A new 2 piece design like the CD players with outboard DAC's.

First piece is a top loading player with only the outputs needed to plug into a pre/pro or receiver, but no DAC's or analogue connections.

Second piece is a separate outboard DAC that has all the digital and analog connections needed to utilize the DAC's. I would also prefer the headphone amp to be a separate unit for those who want to add it on.

This way a person has an upgrade path, and doesn't pay for anything they do not want.
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I reckon if Oppo can figure out a way to include the best features of a receiver (without the amp) into the next generation player, allow sufficient connections for the common stuff found in people's living rooms and make it easy use so that a dummy can make it work - would sell well. Looking at 12V trigger to an external amp, more HDMI inputs & digital inputs. A great app for both IOS and Android/

It would be a lot better than the Sony/Samsung/LG units that are on prominent displays in the stores.

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I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have my BR and prepro separate. I tend to upgrade my BR every 2 years - my prepro every 8-12 years. I don't want to pay for a prepro upgrade every 2 years.

I would however WELCOME an Oppo prepro. I love my Denon AVP however I'll be wanting to replace them in 2 years when I finally go to a 4K TV and want HDMI 2.0. If Oppo can compete with Denon at the same level they did on the BR players with their preprros, I'll be saving a ton of money on an excellent new prepro in a couple of years. I tried to save money and get an Onkyo prepro - a tragic waste of my money. I don't really want any sacrifices in sound quality, but I'd welcome the savings in price if I could get a truly comparably prepro from Oppo.
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I would like the way SACD playback is handled to be a matter of choice, as opposed to Oppo's opinions and preferences. When playing DSD via analog, I would like an option to enable or disable the 50 KHz cutoff filter. When converting DSD to PCM, I would like an option to choose either 88.2 KHz or 176.4 KHz. Some believe that the noise is a distraction and would rather use the filter. Others believe that the filter takes away from some of the overtones. Wouldn't more people buy a player that gives more choices? After some e-mail exchanges, it looks like Oppo believes that higher (176.4 KHz or frequency response up to 100 KHz) is not always better, especially in this case, and by providing us with the choice, we'd naturally pick the higher numbers and be misleading ourselves. Therefore, they are sticking with the DSD-to-analog 50 KHz cutoff filter and DSD-to-PCM at 88.2 KHz. For SACD playback, I'll stick with the Onkyo DV-SP506 and the Sony and Yamaha flagship Blu-ray players. The shame of it is that for all other video and music formats, the Oppos are the best things going right now. They can convert new A/V codecs into older ones and internally decode new and old ones as well. For such a versatile player, you'd really think they'd give SACD users as much choice as everyone else. It's a shame, but like I said, there are fine SACD solutions out there for those who want choice. Sorry, Oppo. You came close to winning first place among even the smallest group of audiophiles!
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I would like the way SACD playback is handled to be a matter of choice, as opposed to Oppo's opinions and preferences. When playing DSD via analog, I would like an option to enable or disable the 50 KHz cutoff filter. When converting DSD to PCM, I would like an option to choose either 88.2 KHz or 176.4 KHz. Some believe that the noise is a distraction and would rather use the filter. Others believe that the filter takes away from some of the overtones. Wouldn't more people buy a player that gives more choices? After some e-mail exchanges, it looks like Oppo believes that higher (176.4 KHz or frequency response up to 100 KHz) is not always better, especially in this case, and by providing us with the choice, we'd naturally pick the higher numbers and be misleading ourselves. Therefore, they are sticking with the DSD-to-analog 50 KHz cutoff filter and DSD-to-PCM at 88.2 KHz. For SACD playback, I'll stick with the Onkyo DV-SP506 and the Sony and Yamaha flagship Blu-ray players. The shame of it is that for all other video and music formats, the Oppos are the best things going right now. They can convert new A/V codecs into older ones and internally decode new and old ones as well. For such a versatile player, you'd really think they'd give SACD users as much choice as everyone else. It's a shame, but like I said, there are fine SACD solutions out there for those who want choice. Sorry, Oppo. You came close to winning first place among even the smallest group of audiophiles!

Over the past several years you seem to be on an island or part of a very minute minority chasing 176.4 KHz.smile.gif

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