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post #61 of 1008 Old 12-30-2011, 11:47 AM - Thread Starter
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A friend asked me about going to CES. Other than a new Panasonic Plasma or a new Oppo BR player I can't think of too much I want to see at CES. I haven't heard any info on new model Oppos or Panasonics being shown at CES so I may pass this year. Anyone hear anything about either at CES this year?
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^ Oppo is apparently co-hosting a party. They have no booth and there's no indication they will be showing a new player either in public or in private.
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I'd want it to be region free without any effort on the part of the user. Also it should be able to convert film based 1080i content to 23.976hz.

The proper setting for sharpness is always0.
Also my Oppo BDP-103D is region free.
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I'd want it to be region free without any effort on the part of the user.

There's pretty much no chance (I always hesitate to say never, but it probably applies in this case) of this happening. The player manufacturers have to implement region restrictions as part of their licensing agreements.
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They could make the restrictions removed with a simple button sequence.

The proper setting for sharpness is always0.
Also my Oppo BDP-103D is region free.
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They could make the restrictions removed with a simple button sequence.

Not within the terms of the Blu-ray licensing.
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They could make the restrictions removed with a simple button sequence.

I would assume that the reason the easy button sequences have gone away might have something to do with the licensing restrictions they have to deal with... Earlier Oppo players had a simple button sequence and new ones don't - I doubt it's because Oppo wanted to make life more difficult for their users.

The content providers, BDA, etc. are the people this request should be directed at, not the player manufacturers.
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Don't crappy Wal-Mart players all have easily defeatable region locking?

The proper setting for sharpness is always0.
Also my Oppo BDP-103D is region free.
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^ Oppo is apparently co-hosting a party. They have no booth and there's no indication they will be showing a new player either in public or in private.
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Hopefully someone will post the first day possible to let us know if Oppo has anything new.
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^ Oppo is apparently co-hosting a party. They have no booth and there's no indication they will be showing a new player either in public or in private.
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Dang it! I was really hoping. And an expert on Panasonic doesn't seem to think the next plasma they release is anything great.
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While they may not have a new BR player at CES, I'm hoping they are going to be incorporating some of the ideas we posted here into their next BR player design.
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In light of what Josh Z has recently learned about the limitations of the Vudu app on the BDP-93 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post21436067), I'd like the next player to transmit the stream in its proper 24 Hz glory.
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In light of what Josh Z has recently learned about the limitations of the Vudu app on the BDP-93 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post21436067), I'd like the next player to transmit the stream in its proper 24 Hz glory.

That's purely an issue with the Vudu app provided by Vudu, it's not a hardware limitation in the current platform. Vudu should be able to resolve this if they're willing to spend the time on it.
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I'm hoping they have a 103 in the works that will be out within the next few months. If it is going to take longer than that, I'd like them to include both 802.11n and 802.11ac connectivity.
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A buddy of mine pointed me to this thread:

- improved IR sensitivity (I keep thinking I need to replace the remote batteries, but maybe that isn't the issue !!)

- faster boot up time. I don't use the network stuff on the 93/95 and I keep thinking about going back to the 83/83SE just for a faster startup

- add digital inputs ... but then I say, the physical disc machine market isn't going to be what it was in the future anyway. I think Oppo should get into the AVR/SSP market.

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That's purely an issue with the Vudu app provided by Vudu, it's not a hardware limitation in the current platform. Vudu should be able to resolve this if they're willing to spend the time on it.

That's exactly why I found this news so odd. After all, 1080p24 streaming is Vudu's marquee feature. Why on earth would they distribute an app that converted it to 60p?

Anyway, it is a limitation of the Oppo player, inasmuch as (apps on) other devices do not exhibit this behavior; e.g., my $80 LG ST600 outputs the proper 1080p24.
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That's exactly why I found this news so odd. After all, 1080p24 streaming is Vudu's marquee feature. Why on earth would they distribute an app that converted it to 60p?

Only Vudu can answer that question.

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Anyway, it is a limitation of the Oppo player, inasmuch as (apps on) other devices do not exhibit this behavior; e.g., my $80 LG ST600 outputs the proper 1080p24.

It's a limitation that doesn't require a "next" Oppo player to be released. All it needs is a new firmware update that includes an updated app from Vudu on the current platform.
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Only Vudu can answer that question.


It's a limitation that doesn't require a "next" Oppo player to be released. All it needs is a new firmware update that includes an updated app from Vudu on the current platform.

Here's hoping you're right!
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Here's hoping you're right!

The trick, of course, is getting Vudu to provide the update for their app - no idea how good they'll be about that.

Keep in mind though that if Oppo, or some other manufacturer introduces a new player there's no guarantee that the Vudu app that's included won't have the same issue.
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Anyone going to the Oppo CES party?
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The trick, of course, is getting Vudu to provide the update for their app - no idea how good they'll be about that.

I've already asked them.

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Keep in mind though that if Oppo, or some other manufacturer introduces a new player there's no guarantee that the Vudu app that's included won't have the same issue.

That's always a risk . . . .
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I'm not sayin... I'm just sayin...
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/s...s-one-with-4k/

There won't be much enthusiasm for 4K, just like there isn't for 3D. Almost all non-dedicated rooms are too small for a screen large enough to provide any benefit. Of course there are those with large dedicated theaters who use projectors who will benefit but they are few in number except on boards such as this. I have a 50" screen and could not and would not go bigger given it's already the dominant feature of the room and my inner waf wishes it were less prominent.
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There won't be much enthusiasm for 4K, just like there isn't for 3D. Almost all non-dedicated rooms are too small for a screen large enough to provide any benefit. Of course there are those with large dedicated theaters who use projectors who will benefit but they are few in number except on boards such as this. I have a 50" screen and could not and would not go bigger given it's already the dominant feature of the room and my inner waf wishes it were less prominent.

You are probably either a woman (no offense) or someone who reads consumer offense. Most guys I know WANT the TV to be the most dominent feature in the room - they go to that room to watch TV. If my girlfriend said to me - this TV is too big, let's get a 50" TV I'd sadly pack up her things and then watch a good movie on my huge TV. Most guys want the biggest screen possible as they tend to watch action movies or scifi movies - yes I'm generalizing.

Consumer reports will tell you you need to be about 50' from a 65" screen or some rediculous nonsense like that. An informed person would take two pieces of painters tape. Put them at a diagnal of 55, 65, 85, 100,.... and sit at their usual seating distance from the wall where their screen would go. As long as you don't have to move your eyes to see both pieces of tape you can keep going larger.

My living room is about 14' wide - I could easily have an 85" screen. I don't think I have a particularly large living room. I used to have a 24' long living room at my previous apartment. I could probably have used a 150" screen.
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If possible include digital inputs (optical and coaxial) especially on the 95 so one can ultilize the excellent DACs with an outboard source.

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Absolutely +1.

EDIT: I'll add that I now have a 93 that I bought to replace the 95 I had. Loved the 95, but sold it only because it did not have digital inputs. Bought a Cary 306 SACD Pro to replace it. Not as big a jump in SQ as you might imagine. Incidentally, I spoke with an Oppo tech rep a couple of months ago about them possibly adding this feature in future models, or at least offering a stand-alone DAC. He said that have been internal discussions about both possibilities, but nothing has been decided (and when I say nothing has been decided, it means just that). As always, stay tuned...
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You are probably either a woman (no offense) or someone who reads consumer offense. Most guys I know WANT the TV to be the most dominent feature in the room - they go to that room to watch TV. If my girlfriend said to me - this TV is too big, let's get a 50" TV I'd sadly pack up her things and then watch a good movie on my huge TV. Most guys want the biggest screen possible as they tend to watch action movies or scifi movies - yes I'm generalizing.

Consumer reports will tell you you need to be about 50' from a 65" screen or some rediculous nonsense like that. An informed person would take two pieces of painters tape. Put them at a diagnal of 55, 65, 85, 100,.... and sit at their usual seating distance from the wall where their screen would go. As long as you don't have to move your eyes to see both pieces of tape you can keep going larger.

My living room is about 14' wide - I could easily have an 85" screen. I don't think I have a particularly large living room. I used to have a 24' long living room at my previous apartment. I could probably have used a 150" screen.

I am female and don't like action movies all that much, but don't read Consumer Reports. Over 90% of my viewing is non-action movies and television (via Netflix). I average a dvd/BD per day in addition to online viewing. I had a 40" and it was too small after several years of use, 50" has proved to be more than sufficient and provides enough definition for me.
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- a web interface so that it can be controlled from a computer/tablet/smartphone- it can output audio and video from both hdmi ports at the same time
- ability to customize the home screen
- support for formats should identical when the source is disc, USB, or streaming
- full support for Dlna instead of the experimental status that it is now
- faster java
- able to handle new bluray disc with less issues
- cost roughly 2x the cost of a Sony or Samsung mainstream bd player

Another feature I would love to see implemented.
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