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To me the Darbee versions look like a "how do we refresh the product to last another two years" whilst they wait for HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 to be ready.
Isn't that what EVERY BD PLAYER EVER RELEASED AFTER THE FIRST MODEL is (?), lol.
Darbee is pretty good stuff though IMO. The "D" players also add a few other features that improve the player.
Below are some of the changes, some apply only to the 103D, all apply to the 105D.

~the Silicon Image VRS ClearView video processor.
(the VRS chip allows for a slightly better picture presentation do to some ever so slight undefeatable DNR in the QDEO chip.)

~the Darbee Visual Presence video processor.

~updated USB DAC interface to support DSD64 and DSD128
(the 105D can not play media files in DSD 128 -- i.e., on a directly attached USB hard drive or via the house network.
the new capability is limited to the Asynchronous USB Input only!)

~a newer firmware update for the USB DAC, can also allow acceptance of stereo LPCM at rates up to 384KHz 24-bit.
Rates above 192KHz are only available for output on the Analog outputs. (192KHz limit on the 105.)

~the ability to send DSD over HDMI on the HDMI-1 output.
(this was only possible on the HDMI-2 output of the BDP-105 and BDP-103)

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It would be a worthwhile upgrade for the 1x5 models to use Daniel Weiss's OpAmps on the Analog Outs.
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To me the Darbee versions look like a "how do we refresh the product to last another two years" whilst they wait for HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 to be ready.
It was a pretty good refresh. It got me to buy one.
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To me the Darbee versions look like a "how do we refresh the product to last another two years" whilst they wait for HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 to be ready.
OK - both are ready - so let's hope they have a BDP-113 ready by November.
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OK - both are ready - so let's hope they have a BDP-113 ready by November.
Is this 2015 we're talking about? I'm hopeful that Oppo won't do an Emo, a la XMC-1...

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OK - both are ready - so let's hope they have a BDP-113 ready by November.
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Is this 2015 we're talking about? I'm hopeful that Oppo won't do an Emo, a la XMC-1...
Umm ya, 2015 is more like it.
Not trying to be a party pooper, but there is absolutely zero chance of a new Oppo player this year.
However, since there are never any absolutes, technically speaking there is a 99.999% chance that Oppo will not release a new player this year.

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Not trying to be a party pooper, but there is absolutely zero chance of a new Oppo player this year.
Why?
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Why?
Because there are still far too many open issues that need to be dealt with before it makes sense for them to come out with a new player, including things like codec and media decisions for 4K content and actual availability of reliable HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 chipsets. If they came out with a player now, it would be obsolete far too soon because it's pretty much a given that 4K is still in too much flux.
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Because there are still far too many open issues that need to be dealt with before it makes sense for them to come out with a new player, including things like codec and media decisions for 4K content and actual availability of reliable HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 chipsets. If they came out with a player now, it would be obsolete far too soon because it's pretty much a given that 4K is still in too much flux.
Agree. Also (surprisingly for a product company lately) because if done to get a product out for an arbitrary date, the result would be a cynical attempt to cash in on the name, not enough of a progression to be better than the current models. Oppo seems to avoid this by design.

It's something that got me to buy two of these. Buying the 103D gives me a good, long lasting value that is stable and useful player for the future. If I bought a new model without stable HDMI 2.0, maybe ATMOS, so on, I would have a 103D+ that was less stable but implemented future features improperly.

I'd rather get a well engineered player that comes a bit later but is as rock solid and innovative as previous ones.
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