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^^ some Sony BD releases use it (today). I'll just have to keep buying Sony if Oppo can't implement it.
I've compared Sony BR players with Oppo and TRUST me the oppo is far superior. Sony used to make GREAT players back when the ES line really was an ES line. I can't tell you how many Sony DVD, BR, preamps I bought over the years back when they had the real ES line. The last few ES products I took the time to look at were crap. Some of my friends bought the "high end" sony players to save money and I would never buy one after taking the time to tweak their TVs for them. Of course that is my subjective opinion - I don't have any charts or diagrams comparing color gamut or anything like that.

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^^ I know all about that, in fact I have both, but having two players on one shelf is a bit of a pain.
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^^ some Sony BD releases use it (today). I'll just have to keep buying Sony if Oppo can't implement it.
From what I understand, Sony's xvYCC colour implementation only works when the Blu-ray appropriate disc is played using a compatible Sony Blu-ray disc player which is in-turn connected to a compatible Sony TV...

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^^ I heard that too. It could be that Sony is not allowing other manufacturers to implement xvColor on BD, but I would like to see a statement from Oppo if that's the case or not. Other players (Panasonic, Yamaha, Pioneer) clearly state that they support xvYCC on other media, but not on BD.
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I just stumbled on this thread, so maybe someone else has talked about this.

My setup is quite simple -- all I need is a blu ray player, one or two additional digital sources, preamp functionality with room correction, and the ability to stream files over the network. The 103 can already do most of that pretty well if I'm not mistaken.

I would love to see them take the 103 and give it the ability to fully implement Dolby Atmos and have at least 13 (preferably 15) preamp outputs. Spruce up the preamp functionality a bit, including more flexible bass management and speaker configuration systems, and add a good room correction system (Audyssey or perhaps Dirac Live) or at least a solid PEQ solution for all channels. Sell it for around the current price of the 105. And probably wait until the blu ray UHD/4k spec is finalized so it can be implemented as well. I'd be in line, myself.

Heh, this might be too much to ask . . .

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^... and make the digital room correction software so that can be implemented in front of a top tier DAC and add front panel volume control and holy mamma, we're in business.
I don't think it would sell for the same as current prices though. Probably more.

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Well, certainly and clearly not for the same price as the current 103. I was hoping to add all that stuff to the 103 and then sell it for somewhere around the 105's price.

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I would love to see them take the 103 and give it the ability to fully implement Dolby Atmos and have at least 13 (preferably 15) preamp outputs.
It would tip over from the weight of the cables.

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Here is an example of an automobile with the aforementioned feature installed, in case we need an example.
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1) XBMC like front end for stored media playback via DAS or NAS or at least available on a hand held device (iphone/iPad, Android) as part of remote operations.
I'd rather a XBMC plugin. And/or a plex plugin.

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I'd like to see them fix the IR part of the remote control. Whether it is the hand held part of the receiving part, not needing to have the hand held part in perfect alignment with the player would be nice.
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^ Yes I think the 10x IR sensing is improved over the 9x players, but pretty typical of most standard IR components.
I have my equipment rack in the back of my theater room, and I can bounce the IR off my projection screen and it operates the player no problem.
I have two other IR components in the rack too, and neither one of those will bounce off the screen, not strong enough.
Having said that, I wish more components would start offering RF remote solutions.
I know there are the aftermarket RF remotes, but personally I don't care for most of them, and I think the best ones just cost too much.
Oppo does have the Media Control and Remote apps to use also, so that is a very good thing if you have either a smartphone or tablet to use with it.
The MC app only works with the 10x players though. I think the stand alone Remote app might work with the 9x players though.

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Having said that, I wish more components would start offering RF remote solutions.
As long as they don't remove IR and/or RS-232 support. Aftermarket programmable remotes usually can't operate devices that only use RF remotes.
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As long as they don't remove IR and/or RS-232 support. Aftermarket programmable remotes usually can't operate devices that only use RF remotes.
Agreed - especially since there is really no signaling standard for use by RF remotes like there is for IR, so the idea of just doing things with pulse codes and having that signaling be compatible across devices as it is with IR is pretty well impossible with RF as used in current remote controls.

RS232 and RF remotes should die the nasty, violent death generally reserved for tyrants - to be replaced by TCP/IP, which, when used over WiFi, provides ALL of the benefits of RF as well as a mechanism for MEANINGFUL, 2-WAY conversations between the remote and the player --- instead of the crappy "I'm the remote so do what I say and don't talk back to me" interaction model that IR and RF remotes have today.

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^EHHH? If RF is so bad, then why do the most popular and expensive 3rd party remotes use that technology?
FFS, garage door openers have used it for decades but yet all the engineers in the a/v industry can't get it to work reliably?
hmm...

Wifi remotes would be cool. Has anyone even made one like that?
AFAIK, only phones and tablets use it thus far, but I would think that if an OEM wanted to make a remote to use over wifi, that would be fairly easy to do.
It could come with a traditional IR remote, and offer a wifi remote as an add on.
...and before you say just use your smartphone, not everyone uses one, including me and 50 other people.

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^EHHH? If RF is so bad, then why do the most popular and expensive 3rd party remotes use that technology?
The best 3rd party remotes (AMX, Crestron, RTI, some of the higher end Harmony remotes, etc.) use RF (and/or WiFi) to talk to a base unit, using that company's RF protocol. The base unit then locally sends out IR, RS-232, etc. to control the actual device locally. The base units from Crestron and AMX contain a LOT of smarts and capabilities to do a lot more than just control your TV and Bluray player - they can control fancy light dimmers, interface with security systems, control video walls, use contact closure to trigger garage door openers (bypassing the RF mess), control HVAC, control telephone conference systems, and all sorts of other stuff. There are a lot of advantages to going through that base unit rather than controlling the device direct from the remote.

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FFS, garage door openers have used it for decades but yet all the engineers in the a/v industry can't get it to work reliably?
hmm...
The problem is that there's no well defined standard for RF remotes like there is for IR, and RS-232. So including support for RF control would most likely require a LOT of extra electronics and programming to support all the different standards.

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Wifi remotes would be cool. Has anyone even made one like that?
The problem is that you can't control a device directly unless it has support for being controlled over the network. So the highest end remotes from companies like Crestron and AMX might use WiFi, but don't typically control the device directly with it.

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AFAIK, only phones and tablets use it thus far, but I would think that if an OEM wanted to make a remote to use over wifi, that would be fairly easy to do.
It could come with a traditional IR remote, and offer a wifi remote as an add on.
...and before you say just use your smartphone, not everyone uses one, including me and 50 other people.
The thing is that not enough people would pay extra for that WiFi remote. They would rather spend that money on a smartphone, iPad, iPod Touch, etc. and then have access to apps to control lots of different devices on the single device rather than having a big pile of remotes on the coffee table. Would you rather spend $20 or more on a bunch of WiFi remotes for each of your devices (and then again each time you replace a piece of equipment) and have to juggle around a pile of remotes or spend a few hundred once and then just download a new free app each time you add or replace a piece of equipment? Personally, I would vote for the second option.
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Forgive me if this is out of context for this thread, or has already been asked... for the 10x players we have now, is there any possibility that Oppo would be able to modify our existing machines for 4K use next year? Or is that pretty much an impossibility and we'll have to get the next gen of Oppo for 4K?
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Forgive me if this is out of context for this thread, or has already been asked... for the 10x players we have now, is there any possibility that Oppo would be able to modify our existing machines for 4K use next year? Or is that pretty much an impossibility
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A true video buffer to correct AV sync when the audio is consistently behind the video. I would think a 120 ms would be enough for most problem setups.
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So if I buy a 4K Oled screen will i be able to use the oppo 83 to upscale blu ray and dvd to play on my 4K screen?Will it look as good as it does using the 83 to play dvd and blu ray on my 1080P screen?

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So if I buy a 4K Oled screen will i be able to use the oppo 83 to upscale blu ray and dvd to play on my 4K screen?Will it look as good as it does using the 83 to play dvd and blu ray on my 1080P screen?
The display will upscale 1080p from the player to its native resolution. How well that looks depends on the display.

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Thanks Bill and from what Ive been reading the LG 55 Oled seems to do a good job displaying but im interested in the 65 and that could be something else.Will have to see what this looks like in person before i make my move but Im sure Oppo has a dedicated 4K player in the pipeline with some advanced upscaling for those of us with large dvd collections.

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Thanks Bill and from what Ive been reading the LG 55 Oled seems to do a good job displaying but im interested in the 65 and that could be something else.Will have to see what this looks like in person before i make my move but Im sure Oppo has a dedicated 4K player in the pipeline with some advanced upscaling for those of us with large dvd collections.
The 103 series already has 4k upscaling but does not accept 4k content. I'm a bit skeptical that going from 480i DVD directly to 4k can be much better than 480i to 1080p in the player, then 1080p to 4k in the display, but neither have I tested it.

We are in a transition period now with 4K Blu-ray, HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 in the near future. Probably a bad time to be an early adopter: wait for this to shake out and the products become stabilized.

In particular, I suspect we will hear bitter complaints from those who bought 4k displays which do not have HDCP 2.2 or support Rec 2020 color, etc.

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Thanks Bill and from what Ive been reading the LG 55 Oled seems to do a good job displaying but im interested in the 65 and that could be something else.Will have to see what this looks like in person before i make my move but Im sure Oppo has a dedicated 4K player in the pipeline with some advanced upscaling for those of us with large dvd collections.
I currently own a 4K source (sony only movies) and a 4K TV and while the DVDs do upscale nicely on the Oppo, the 1080p of BR seem more impressive. The BR discs look much better on my new 4K TV than they even did on my Panasonic plasma although motion is still not as good. BR looks great on 4K screens but obviously 4K sources look even better. I'm sure I'll replace my favorite movies on BR with 4K atmos editions when they become available. However you'll notice the quality of BR movies much more if they are well filmed with newer tech - usually after 1995. 80s movies look pretty bad although the Man of Steel while new, is ridiculously grainy by the director's choice.

The biggest issue for me is creating a media server with enough storage space for 4K movies. My current server is only 27TB and running out quickly. I will be out of space by April so I'm hoping that LSI has a 16i controller by then so I can create my 60TB server.


Correct me if I'm wrong but if I'm streaming from my PC and the movie is unencrypted, I don't believe I have to worry about HDCP 2.2 or any encryption issues. I'll probably be buying my next TV in May and moving my current dinky 4K TV to my bedroom which will be more than adequate for watching TV shows.

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^ It looks like HDCP 2.2 copy protection will be required to view any commercial content delivered as 4K -- whether on disc, streamed, or off the air.

What's not yet clear is whether full backwards compatibility will be offered if you have a MIX of HDCP 2.2 gear and OLDER gear, and are trying to view, e.g., lower resolution (but still copy protected) content which has been UPSCALED to 4K.

REC 2020 is (among other things) the color gamut and kinda-sorta Deep Color specification for upcoming content delivered as 4K. It replaces REC 709 (the current HDTV spec, also used for Blu-ray) and obsoletes things like xvYCC. It mandates more bits per pixel and broadens the range of colors that can be represented to be closer to the full range the eye can actually see -- compared to the more limited range currently mandated for HDTV and SDTV. To get the full value of REC 2020 you need a display engineered to actually render such a broad range of colors, otherwise the display will clip the colors beyond what it can represent, even though it might actually accept the REC 2020 formatted video data as input. As an extreme analogy, think of a color program shown on a black and white TV. The B&W TV can't render the colors so that part of the video input is simply wasted.

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All this is a bit discouraging when you are 67 and waiting for things to work themselves out.I just want to bring home a 65 4K Oled that provides me with the WOW factor my Pioneer cmx plasma did 11 years ago but i dont want to regret the purchase if next year HDCP 2.2 and REC 2020 make the set an obsolete mistake.Like my plasma that had no HDMI connection.

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