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Not sure if this has been posted yet but found this interesting http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=272153. Looks like we might have to register all our UHD discs with the new Oppo
I wouldn't worry too much about this just yet. There are already features that Blu-ray players have to support to get a license, but which the studios don't actually use. For example, "Cinavia" copy protection has been pretty much ignored by most studios.

I suspect this will continue to be the case into the brave, new, UHD Blu-ray era. That is, on-line activation may be a feature the player has to implement to get a license, but whether any studios will actually USE that -- and deal with the torch-and-pitchfork carrying mobs that result -- is yet to be seen.
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Like the Image Constraint Token to prevent hidef playback over component. All players had to have it but the studios never used it on disc.

Instead they just killed component video.

As I'm reading all this, the phone-home facility is for UHD only, not existing Blu-ray, so the advice at blu-ray.com to stock up on existing players is just panicked weirdness.

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I wouldn't worry too much about this just yet. There are already features that Blu-ray players have to support to get a license, but which the studios don't actually use. For example, "Cinavia" copy protection has been pretty much ignored by most studios.

I suspect this will continue to be the case into the brave, new, UHD Blu-ray era. That is, on-line activation may be a feature the player has to implement to get a license, but whether any studios will actually USE that -- and deal with the torch-and-pitchfork carrying mobs that result -- is yet to be seen.
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Can be lots of complaining consumers with no internet connection: I buy the player and disc legal, but cannot view without internet.
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Oh jeez... Please don't use this abbreviation for Dolby Vision as it more commonly stands for Digital Video
Maybe in the UK, but not here.



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That is, on-line activation may be a feature the player has to implement to get a license, but whether any studios will actually USE that -- and deal with the torch-and-pitchfork carrying mobs that result -- is yet to be seen.
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It would be dumb of them to try such a thing.
Requiring an internet connection in the HT or TV viewing area would definitely bring the "mobs" out.

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In such cases a multi-pin with a breakout cable is quit common on much of the gear I work with, it saves space.

Attached is a quick and dirty pic from a piece of gear I have. There are RCAs and XLRs on the same pig tail.

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Here's a better pic to illustrate, 24 channels of audio I/O in a 3.3 inch (2U if I calc right) 1/2 rack unit.



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Here's a better pic to illustrate, 24 channels of audio I/O in a 3.3 inch (2U if I calc right) 1/2 rack unit.
I had completely forgotten about those. Despite the fact that my old Aragon Stage One used that for multi-channel input.
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  • Physical volume buttons on the front (I use mine straight into power amps)
  • Easier selection of source via the front panel - I don't want to turn on the projector just to select CD input
  • A really slick app to allow control of the device .... Naim have done it, and I can't imagine they have a bigger budget than Oppo
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I would like to see finer subtitle positioning than that on the 10x players. There are times when I want get all of the subtitles to the very bottom of the screen but the adjustments available only allow for a position well short of the bottom or move parts of the letters past the bottom.

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I would like to see finer subtitle positioning than that on the 10x players. There are times when I want get all of the subtitles to the very bottom of the screen but the adjustments available only allow for a position well short of the bottom or move parts of the letters past the bottom.
Check that you have the latest firmware. In Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information, the Main firmware version number should end 80-1031. If your firmware dates back close to the release of the player, you'll find that there is finer Subtitle positioning control in the newer firmware: 10 smaller steps each way, instead of 5.
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I have the latest firmware, Bob. It is still not fine enough for my needs.

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I have the latest firmware, Bob. It is still not fine enough for my needs.
Email OPPO Tech Support with an example of a disc giving you problems with subtitles positioning.

In the current software, I've yet to find a Blu-ray disc where the subtitles can not be lowered so the bottom line crosses the lower edge of the display. And then when raised up a step, the bottom line seems close enough to the bottom of the display to me. The subtitles may be multiple lines high, and the top line may still impinge on the movie itself, but that's just the way they were authored.

Authoring for SD-DVDs makes it tougher to deal with subtitles positioning. For SD-DVDs you *CAN* have a case where the bottom line either crosses the lower edge of the display or is further up than you would think would be necessary if you raise it one more step. Alas, I believe that's a limitation of the SD-DVD spec.
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How many would GIVE UP their excellent Oppo BD players just for a player that can play UHD too?
If there is the equivalent of the BDP-105 that plays UHD, I would order it immediately.
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Can be lots of complaining consumers with no internet connection: I buy the player and disc legal, but cannot view without internet.
I'm hopeful that eventually studios will implement a method where each disc will need to be unlocked with a personally identifiable key, such that if the disc contents leak to the Internet a specific individual purchaser will be identified and prosecuted to the extent of law.

There's simply no excuse for piracy in the world we live in today; it's stoppable and irresponsible to all employed in the film and television industries for them not to; it's not the executives and stars who suffer due to piracy-related losses, it's the rank and file from crew to people working in various support positions.
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Oppo is now telling people late summer to early fall on the release .

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I'm hopeful that eventually studios will implement a method where each disc will need to be unlocked with a personally identifiable key, such that if the disc contents leak to the Internet a specific individual purchaser will be identified and prosecuted to the extent of law.

There's simply no excuse for piracy in the world we live in today; it's stoppable and irresponsible to all employed in the film and television industries for them not to; it's not the executives and stars who suffer due to piracy-related losses, it's the rank and file from crew to people working in various support positions.
The trouble with these solutions is punish the law abiding users with onerous bug -infested anti-piracy protection.
HDMI HDCP simply makes everything work slow and causes the customer and support headaches.

This does nothing to stop piracy but it does insure that displays and AVR's become obsolete spurring upgrades.
Whatever anti-piracy scheme they create, it will be broken. Internet videos will be ripped.
Content providers would sell more disks if there was no copy protection.

SACD's are very hard to rip, are unplayable on computers, and hardly a success in the marketplace.

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Oppo is now telling people late summer to early fall on the release .
Any hints as to feature-set?
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Any hints as to feature-set?
notta.

but im getting the samsung 4k player now and upgrading to oppo when it comes out. oppo has also told people that when the 4k players come out they are discontinuing their 1080P line, which is good. it means they will put anything and everything into those new players

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I contacted Oppo and asked them when they plan to bring out there Native 4K UHD Blu-ray player and if it would support Dolby Atmos and DTS:X surround formats and this is what they replied back with.


Quote "We are looking to release a UHD player likely this Summer to Fall.


It will likely not have Dolby Atmos or DTS:X decoding as these formats would require 11.4 analog audio outputs. HDMI will not support these number of channels as a LPCM decode, so Bit Streaming to a compatible receiver would be necessary." Unquote

At least they plan to release the Blu-Ray native UHD player this year. I am hanging off for one of these players to replace my BDP-103
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It will likely not have Dolby Atmos or DTS:X decoding as these formats would require 11.4 analog audio outputs. HDMI will not support these number of channels as a LPCM decode, so Bit Streaming to a compatible receiver would be necessary."
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The new specification, the first to be developed by the HDMI Forum, also offers up to 32 uncompressed digital audio channels (1.4 supports eight channels),
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I would like to see finer subtitle positioning than that on the 10x players. There are times when I want get all of the subtitles to the very bottom of the screen but the adjustments available only allow for a position well short of the bottom or move parts of the letters past the bottom.
Speaking of subtitles, I would also like the option of changing the COLORS of the letters.
Anyone who has a high-end 4K display knows it can put out a heckuva lot of light (i.e., Sony 940c).


White subtitles can be blinding in a darkened room.
Changing to a dull yellow, for example, would be a very cool option to have.

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I would really like to see a DSD/PCM button on the remote of the new Oppo players.

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