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Today we're interrupting Fan Friday to show you this photo. In it, you see the OLED screen of our upcoming UHD 4K player lighting up for the very first time.
So, yes... the OPPO Digital UHD 4K player is, in fact, coming soon. (Facebook/twitter)

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I'm very much looking forward to the 103 replacement; you know Oppo will do a good job staying up to date on (dynamic) HDR and implementing 4:4:4 if anyone can. All I ask is that they keep the HDMI inputs, universal playback and streaming support they've got to additionally support 4K and the Samsung K8500 I picked up to play Atmos content on (downrezed) UHD will be hitting the market...

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Today we're interrupting Fan Friday to show you this photo. In it, you see the OLED screen of our upcoming UHD 4K player lighting up for the very first time.
I initially read that 1/19 as the release date. Was all set to be disappointed.
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wouldnt an oled display screen suffer from burn in or IR?

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According to Bob Stuart MQA sounds best only when every part of the chain communicates in MQA. ie: the song, player,and dac are all MQA capable.

If you break any of those you still get benefits but not the full benefit.

And since this Oppo will be my next player, and I want it to last a few years I would like it to be able to detect and output all the latest codecs.

It is perfectly set up for this. I mean the timing of MQA is perfect. I don't think it was to late to implement into at least the higher end Oppo.

And to the person above that mentioned it is a larger file size. I believe if you compare apples to apples it is actually smaller. A 16/44 with MQA is smaller than a 16/44 flac. And I haven't read anything about it being noisier. And I have also been following it from the beginning. I could be wrong. I just hadn't seen that mentioned in anything I had read.
One of the beauties of MQA is the backward compatibility designed into it. I can take my current Oppo 103, point it at a file called song.mqa.flac that contains a 24/48 LPCM stream that has been MQA processed, the 103 will dutifully expand the FLAC data into a standard 24/48 LPCM stream and send that down the HDMI to a pre-amp.

If said pre-amp has MQA-capable DAC's, then the MQA code in the pre will decode (unfold) the MQA data into 24/192 and then the final rendering to analog will be also be adjusted to the 'fingerprint' of the DAC in the unit for optimum temporal accuracy.
So the player does NOT need to know anything about MQA to gain the sonic benefits.

But if the preamp is NOT MQA capable, it will just play the 24/48 LPCM stream and you get your audio, minus the high-res and the temporal adjustments. But still slightly better than the equivalent 16/44 CD version.

Oppo could license MQA for the 113 and implement the decode (unfolding) of MQA data into a selected resolution (say 24/96) and pass that high-res 24/96 LPCM down the HDMI to the legacy preamp or AVR. So that would be a reasonable level of MQA support in the base unit.

As I mentioned before, I'd expect the 115 to have MQA-Certified DACs as well, but also capable of doing what I just described in terms of sending decoded high-res LPCM to the AVR via HDMI or digital outs (which will a pretty common scenario).
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I initially read that 1/19 as the release date. Was all set to be disappointed.
I like that fact that someone was listening to the Charlie Puth Furious 7 tune (good music taste) . Most likely not a date just a custom mix as the official soundtrack is 16 tracks.

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stupid question but how does one join the beta group?

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stupid question but how does one join the beta group?
It's by invitation. Contact OPPO with your interest and I'm sure they'll give the info to the proper person.

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wouldnt an oled display screen suffer from burn in or IR?
The burn in isn't as bad as the motion judder but I can live with that on a display showing a chapter or time elapsed
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OLED displays are also used by other manufacturers such as Creek Audio and I have never heard of burn-in on those displays.
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The Denon PMA-50 Integrated use OLED display as well. My Apogee Duet for Mac has High Resolution OLED display and this thing is always ON (24/7) and no IR so for.



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I sure hope that OPPO includes DIRAC and these on the 105 replacement!

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..... Honestly though, I think Oppo will have a solution that will be a good compromise for users who do and don't want such a feature. They already have a contract with Dirac that is supposed to be used in conjunction with their new line of Sonica speakers. It would make perfect sense to extend that functionality through their UHD players too if possible.
Usually once an OEM is paying for licensing of one product, the trickle down effect to other products is very cost effective.
So I think Oppo may have some stuff up their sleeves, and we'll see if I guessed right sometime in the near future.
Yes I sure hope DIRAC is on this one, I will ditch my pre/pro or recycle it to an other room immediately
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Yes I sure hope DIRAC is on this one, I will ditch my pre/pro or recycle it to an other room immediately
+1. I'll do the same
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I wouldn't unless it had more drive. I really wanted to sell my Krell Foundation and only use the 105 for my processor. I compared them several times. My son even asked me what happened to my system after I sold my first Foundation. I asked him what he meant. He said, and I quote, "it just sounds flat" . I asked him to explain further. He said the difference between the soft and loud parts is not the same as it was at all. I then told him I sold the Foundation. He had no idea I even sold it. My wife noticed instantly the difference also. It really wasn't subtle. I figured they had the same dacs, the 105 is well made. I figured it was all in my head that the Foundation just made it sound better because of all this bull science crap here on AVS. But my sons reaction was the icing on the cake. He said it just sounds broke. And my wife agreed and told me as soon as we got back on our feet to buy another Foundation . I did, and my son said yep that was definitely it. And then he smiled,sat back and watched Avatar for the third time.

This is a true story. I would still compare them, well now I have an XMC1 but if the results are the same their must be something about them hefty power supply stages in decent to good preamps.
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I was reading last week about the New ESS Sabre ES9038PRO DAC and looks like, as for now, the Ayre Acoustics QX-5 Twenty hub is the only device offered with such ESS DAC. BTW, the rumored price for the QX-5 is around $8000



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I was reading last week about the New ESS Sabre ES9038PRO DAC and looks like, as for now, the Ayre Acoustics QX-5 Twenty hub is the only device offered with such ESS DAC. BTW, the rumored price for the QX-5 is around $8000
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I wouldn't unless it had more drive. I really wanted to sell my Krell Foundation and only use the 105 for my processor. I compared them several times. My son even asked me what happened to my system after I sold my first Foundation...........
Shoot me down in flames for asking, but I presume you were using the analogue outs from the 105 to your amp/receiver, and not HDMI, for sound?
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Would love to see "quick jump" of 30 seconds forward and 10 seconds back (like on a DVR). Would be really helpful when watching TV shows to quickly skip opening theme. I'm surprised at how many TV DVDs are authored without a chapter right at end of show theme. Fast forward or direct time works fine but the "quick jump" would be much quicker.
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Also hoping the 115 includes built in wireless ac. No more dongle.
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Also hoping the 115 includes built in wireless ac. No more dongle.
There's so much wireless crap in my neighborhood that wireless is terrible in my house. Don't lose the ethernet!
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Would love to see "quick jump" of 30 seconds forward and 10 seconds back (like on a DVR). Would be really helpful when watching TV shows to quickly skip opening theme. I'm surprised at how many TV DVDs are authored without a chapter right at end of show theme. Fast forward or direct time works fine but the "quick jump" would be much quicker.
Contact OPPO support with your suggestion: the more people asking for the feature, the more likely they will implement it. I'd love something like this, and already asked them for it.
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Would love to see "quick jump" of 30 seconds forward and 10 seconds back (like on a DVR). Would be really helpful when watching TV shows to quickly skip opening theme. I'm surprised at how many TV DVDs are authored without a chapter right at end of show theme. Fast forward or direct time works fine but the "quick jump" would be much quicker.
The 103/105 series have skip back now; it was added in a firmware update a while back. From the release notes:

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I've found if you are quick you can stack up the clicks and get multiples of 10 seconds.

No jump forward (apart from the traditional FF and chapter skip, of course).

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Hdmi to processor for most. Analog outs to processor for 2 channel music.
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oppo 4k player teaser,coming soon!

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Your picture is has already been posted here. When Oppo makes an official announcement with specs, someone like neuromancer, Bob, etc. will start an official thread.

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Contact OPPO support with your suggestion: the more people asking for the feature, the more likely they will implement it. I'd love something like this, and already asked them for it.
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The 103/105 series have skip back now; it was added in a firmware update a while back. From the release notes:
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I've found if you are quick you can stack up the clicks and get multiples of 10 seconds.
No jump forward (apart from the traditional FF and chapter skip, of course).
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I usually read the release notes but either I missed this one or just forgot about it. Thanks for mentioning it.

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The burn in isn't as bad as the motion judder but I can live with that on a display showing a chapter or time elapsed
I know you're kidding but I have all motion aids on my LG OLED TV shut completely off and have no motion judder other than what's supposed to be there when watching 24P content; in fact the only motion anomalies I have are if I turn motion smoothing/cinema mode on.

As far as the display, it's possible, but vacuum fluorescent and LED displays also have issues with fading and such; look at the front panel of just about any Sony audio product made between 1984 and today and you'll see what I mean (though with the vacuum fluorescent, it's the inverse; the more heavily used segments glow brighter than those that are rarely used.)
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