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Another difference that is important to some is speed. My understanding is that the 790 has a quad core processor. I imagine it would/should be faster than some other decks at loading discs.
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I was responding to the OP who asked if there was any "real" difference, which I took to mean "significant". All players will have tiny differences. But if the OP replaced his 370 with a 790, he'd likely notice none.
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yeah, but that tiny differences matter if you are really serious about video. S790 has a higher grade processor and better processing algorithms than 390, of course there will be differences, even if they are tiny by your measure, but there will be differences, that's for sure.

(PS, regarding the "washed out colours": I didn't say they're washed out, it's just that the colours 790 puts out compared to N590 are punchier, brighter. N590 by al means doesn't have washed out colours.).
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Most differences would be calibrated out by anyone hardcore enough to own a colorimeter.

By the way Panasonic's "super resolution" doesn't affect Blu-ray playback but it does work on DVDs so it is safe to leave on +1 or so.

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Does any one knows if the Sony BDP-S790 has Subtitle Shift feature, like in the Oppo 103 or 105 or Panasonic DMP-BD500?
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Does any one knows if the Sony BDP-S790 has Subtitle Shift feature, like in the Oppo 103 or 105 or Panasonic DMP-BD500?
NO SUBTITLE SHIFT in the S790
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NO SUBTITLE SHIFT in the S790
Oh well do you know which Blu Ray player does? Panasonic DMP-BDT360 or DMP-BDT460
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Oh well do you know which Blu Ray player does? Panasonic DMP-BDT360 or DMP-BDT460
I OWN the S790 and can not be happier.

Ever since I bought the S790 - DAY ZERO - preordered
I can not be happier and I stopped looking.
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I OWN the S790 and can not be happier. Ever since I bought the S790 - DAY ZERO - preordered I can not be happier and I stopped looking.
I have one after the software upgrade it's a brick! I had it for one year and three months
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I just got the Panasonic BDT500 in today.
I got a Sony S1000ES last month.
Ive had a Sony S790 since February
I had a Panasonic BDT 220 since January (but went through 2, just sold the 2nd one couple weeks ago)

I really liked the Panasonic BDT220s...excepting the App navigation was kind of sluggish. But that really didnt bother me. I mostly use a Roku anyways. The thing that I didnt like about either of these 2 units was that they didnt play scratched or imperfect Blu Ray discs very well. I got a second unit trying to see if some variation in the manufacture, I just got a less able unit with regards to scratched discs, but they were almost identical in their playback of the test discs I have here for that purpose.

The Sony S790 has been a joy, I love everything about it. It's fast menu navigation and fast rewind/ff. Quick start up and loading. Im not a big fan of the crossbar navigation menus but it's OK. Streaming works well. I really like this unit.

I picked up a Sony S1000ES about a month ago and havent had that much time with it. Im trying to understand Super Bit Mapping (which apparently the S790 has as well) and the HD Reality Enhancer (is this like the Darby Darblet?) This one has analog 7.1 outputs like the Panny BDT500. It's quite a bit slower with regard to start up and load times. But the PQ is great. (also has a 1/4" headphone jack). I havent tested this with scratched discs yet.

The Panasonic BDT 500 arrived via mail today. Hooked it up and watching it now. Im hoping it will play scratched discs better than the BDT220s...but it likely has the same optical drive. We'll see. This remote's trackpad is awful and Ill probably pick up a BDT220 remote to use in it's stead. Im not seeing any more zip to this thing than the BDT220s had, either. Im pretty sure this uses the same Uniphier chipset as the BDT220s..but I read somewhere it has a dual core processor.

Any tips or info is appreciated.

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A few notes.

I dont mess with 3D too much. It's not that big of concern.
I dont run multichannel audio system, stereo or 2.1 max.
I dont really play SACD or DVD-A though might play around with it sometime.
I require Stereo Analog Audio outputs, as I used vintage Recievers. (some newer machines lack them)
I do like CD upsampling.

So as you can see, the Panny BDT-220 was probably enough machine for me...barring the issue with imperfect scratched disc playback. The 2 Stereo Analog outs on the S790 are adequate for my needs.

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So any owners out their in your opinion is this sill one of the best players to purchase? It gets really good reviews and is currently 129.00 on clearance at BB.

Also does it still receive updates?

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So any owners out their in your opinion is this sill one of the best players to purchase? It gets really good reviews and is currently 129.00 on clearance at BB.

Also does it still receive updates?

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I just tried to BUY one but they will not ship the unit.
Your local store has to have one or you are out of luck
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Understand but I'm going to try and have world-imports.com price match the unit.

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So any owners out their in your opinion is this sill one of the best players to purchase? It gets really good reviews and is currently 129.00 on clearance at BB.

Also does it still receive updates?

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No and no. But it depends on the features you need, like dual HDMI, analog stereo and your own gravitational field. You can get a brand new Sony far faster and smaller than the 790 for a fraction of that price. Buying a player that's 3 generations old is a bad idea, unless you have a really old AVR as well that can't handle 3D or HD audio.
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I currently use a Pioneer SC-25. Any recommendations?



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I currently use a Pioneer SC-25. Any recommendations?
So if you don't do 3D, you're fine with any player. If you do, then you do indeed need dual HDMI since your Pio can't handle it. So you may as well go for the 790 as you originally planned. Panasonic and Samsung have some newer players with dual HDMI that would also work. If streaming is important, you'll be better off with a newer model.
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That my dilemma I don't know if I would use 3D even if I had it and streaming is not an issue I just want a reliable fast player with good quality adio and video and I plan to purchase from world-imports.com for region free

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That my dilemma I don't know if I would use 3D even if I had it and streaming is not an issue I just want a reliable fast player with good quality adio and video and I plan to purchase from world-imports.com for region free
As soon as you decide on the 3D question, you'll have your answer. IMO, 3D was a fad that never worked very well outside of the movie theater. All current Sony and Panasonic players are fast and reliable with good quality A/V. I think I paid about $30 for my last used Sony. All are still working fine. Since streaming is not a factor, Panasonic is the better player, IMO, in terms of DVD upscaling. BD quality is the same as Sony (and every other player).
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Four reasons to buy the S790 and two not to and one not important thing.
Good:
1) Has separate Top Menu and Pop-Up menu buttons on the remote. If you watch DVDs, on some other brands you have to click through multiple on screen selections just to get back to the main menu from a movie.
2) Optical Out. Older format, but this is one of the last great players to support it.
3) Dual HDMI. If you need it, you probably know you do.
4) High end with a faster processor than many other players.

Bad:
1) Media playback support, while good, can be quirky and once in a while will hang your player requiring unplugging or a hard reboot.
2) Cinavia copy protection. If you make back ups, some discs will not play properly.

Unimportant:
1) Nice 4k upscaler... which your 4k TV probably does better by now.

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As soon as you decide on the 3D question, you'll have your answer. IMO, 3D was a fad that never worked very well outside of the movie theater. All current Sony and Panasonic players are fast and reliable with good quality A/V. I think I paid about $30 for my last used Sony. All are still working fine. Since streaming is not a factor, Panasonic is the better player, IMO, in terms of DVD upscaling. BD quality is the same as Sony (and every other player).
So in your opinion I'd be better off with the 6200?

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So in your opinion I'd be better off with the 6200?
IMO, you'd be better off forgetting about 3D and buying a used 5500. But that's just me. If the 6200 appeals to you and you still want to do 3D, go for it.

Just confirm your AVR can decode HD sound formats. It probably can.
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What about the 3200 series? Why the 2015 models?

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What about the 3200 series? Why the 2015 models?
Sure, that would be fine. I have a 3200 myself. It's great. In rooms with wired internet, I have 1100's since that's all I need. But the newer the model, the faster, smaller, more efficient, more compatible and the more up to date the streaming apps will be. There also is a sweet spot price-wise for used models. Of that vintage, a 5200 may be a better value. You'll just have to shop and compare.
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I'm planning on purchasing a new TV this week and reading up on it I found out that the additional smart apps can be added.
I never noticed, but is the S790 capable of the same sort of thing or are we stuck with the apps that Sony gives us?

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I really do not know if you can consider them "smart", but Opera TV channels are available.
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For those who might still looking to get a S790, Amazon is selling them again begining on September 2. I guess with the official Sony store closing on August, 28th, they must have had some unsold S790's which they probably sent to Amazon.
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