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Why would any Next Generation Player support
Outdated technology - it is great that you have
and Oppo for that.

Lets bring back Laser Disk

TIME TO MOVE FORWARD NOT BACKWARDS.

I can playback any thing you can and Why sacrifice something who's time has not yet come. I prefer 7.1 to hdmi for audio and the 95 provides me that option to do so and keep my Anthem pre/pro which has features I still haven't used but has the flexiblity to support the current tech baring room correction which I don't need or want at the moment. I'll take the purity of the signal for 90% of my listening.My room is well treated and speakers are positioned properly. The current trend does'nt affect me as it does many, I didn't buy it to throw it away any time soon but would rather extract its full potential before moving on
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Why would any Next Generation Player support
Outdated technology
- it is great that you have
and Oppo for that.

Lets bring back Laser Disk

TIME TO MOVE FORWARD NOT BACKWARDS.

They are moving forward. There is a price to be paid for supporting this "Outdated technology" as you put it and some are willing to pay it. If you don't require this support then you don't have to spend the extra money. Their transport supports everything that other transports support for the most part that were released during the same time frame and then some.

There are transports between $100.00 and $20,000.00 all each one of us have to do is pick the one within our budgets that provides the features and support that we desire and not begrudge others who are willing to spend more. The last sentence was not directed at you per se.

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for a 1000 it should sleep with you too. I thought this was a sony thread.

All is relative I guess I once remember thinking the same but as upgrades went on and I'm not sure when a $1000 became a great price but to the guy with the $30,000 Krell and finds the $10,000 Ayre better suits his or her needs tis considered a bargain. And as for the 95 its to skinny for me to even consider sleeping with it
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for a 1000 it should sleep with you too. I thought this was a sony thread.

It is an Oppo's thread.
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I prefer 7.1 to hdmi for audio and the 95 provides me that option to do so and keep my Anthem pre/pro which has features I still haven't used but has the flexiblity to support the current tech baring room correction which I don't need or want at the moment. I'll take the purity of the signal for 90% of my listening.

Don't need and don't want are two different things. The purity of the signal is only pure when the room/speakers have been removed.
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Umm ok, I'll give you for the sake of argument the Sony has a nice picture. But I use my 95 for the following

1.) Ess Sabre dacsx2 for reference 2 channel playback of sacd ,redbook and usb. In use

2.) 7.1 analog outs NOt in use

3.) reliability Sony is NOT?

4.) support

5.) Marvell Qdeo post processing, I'm sure will rival any thing including the Sony Outdated
(have you tried them?)

6.) balanced outs Don't use

7.) Nice packagingDon't care

Now if the Sony had just even 60% of these abilities we could talk but seeing it doesn't its out of its class in these regards. Now all of this at $1000 bucks is the bargin of the decade and history will prove me on this one.

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The 790 might put out a reference image with the correct settings. The 590 does with the correct settings, so the 790 might as well. The question is that people prefer it to the Oppo, which we know does a reference image, and so if it is different, the options are:

- The display is handling them differently
- The Sony is sending out something other than the reference data
- People are seeing something they want to see

I have no idea which, and so I want to find out. The only thing I take umbrage with is the labeling of any player that's doing reference video as "inferior" or that another one is better, instead of saying they prefer one to the other. I like my Mac laptop, my wife likes her PC, it doesn't make one inferior, they're different tastes.

I actually agree with you. I will admit that reference or not I just prefer the 790 these days. For everything

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I think it depends on what you consider as important. Streaming is important to me (and i know many others here too) and as such the Sony delivers where as the Oppo does not. It's great that you believe the Oppo is worth $750 more than the S790, for a bunch of old stuff and a nice cardboard box ..... but since money doesn't grow on trees I'm happy I saved $750 even if it means Red isn't "reference" but more a "orangish red".

I just used streaming last night and just about every night via Netflix and I used my 95, so streaming is very important to me. And for the moment see no need for any other streaming applications as Netflix has more content than any other providers and this is done with stellar results. The 750.00 I spent to place this 95 with the contemporaries that I have in my current set up in some cases they exceed it's price point by factor of 10, it is more than right at home. To make it clear, we are not just talking about streaming alone, but the host of other features and how they are performed come into question. So, 250.00 for a streaming player, seems a little much depending on who you ask. Price is not the issue here, it is pound for pound universal against universal. The issue is Performance and the Oppo's meet the standard with style and grace.
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If streaming is so important, then why settle for 720p on the Oppo when you could have 1080p on the Sony?
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I just used streaming last night and just about every night via Netflix and I used my 95, so streaming is very important to me. And for the moment see no need for any other streaming applications as Netflix has more content than any other providers and this is done with stellar results. The 750.00 I spent to place this 95 with the contemporaries that I have in my current set up in some cases they exceed it's price point by factor of 10, it is more than right at home. To make it clear, we are not just talking about streaming alone, but the host of other features and how they are performed come into question. So, 250.00 for a streaming player, seems a little much depending on who you ask. Price is not the issue here, it is pound for pound universal against universal. The issue is Performance and the Oppo's meet the standard with style and grace.

You are the same guy that states that Oppo is the best streaming player. Correct? LOL
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If streaming is so important, then why settle for 720p on the Oppo when you could have 1080p on the Sony?

I tried to reason with him before. He just don't know what he is missing.
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So why haven't you sold the 95?
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I tried to reason with him before. He just don't know what he is missing.

Never said it was the best streaming player as I'm sure many do it better, And you shouldn't assume As for the output resolution at 720p for now gets the job done. As long as there are no hang ups I'm generally happy with the pq. As this is the reason of my interest in the Sony for a possible future purchase.
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So why haven't you sold the 95?
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Lets not forget the most important feature to streaming is the supporting cast, i.e a solid fast broadband connection,good wifi or Ethernet connection. I love the streaming from my 95( I have broadband and use the dongle) as I use it daily. Lets not forget as well once it hits the Marvell chip set(is there better?), although its a mere 720p source signal , My big Mitsu/dlp says 1080p and the picture is pristine depending on source. Bottom line streaming will continue to suck for sometime period at least until we get more lanes on the highway. And oh yeah I own a Playstaion 3 as well and still prefer the 95 And heaven forbid if one where to use the Enhancement features from the Marvel chip set which can clean up just about any ill side effects and still maintain optimum picture fidelity."

His quote from the 95
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I tried to reason with him before. He just don't know what he is missing.

I think I'll pass on your reasoning as I'm not sure about your true motives
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"Lets not forget the most important feature to streaming is the supporting cast, i.e a solid fast broadband connection,good wifi or Ethernet connection. I love the streaming from my 95( I have broadband and use the dongle) as I use it daily. Lets not forget as well once it hits the Marvell chip set(is there better?), although its a mere 720p source signal , My big Mitsu/dlp says 1080p and the picture is pristine depending on source. Bottom line streaming will continue to suck for sometime period at least until we get more lanes on the highway. And oh yeah I own a Playstaion 3 as well and still prefer the 95 And heaven forbid if one where to use the Enhancement features from the Marvel chip set which can clean up just about any ill side effects and still maintain optimum picture fidelity."

Is there better than the" Marvell Chip" not its streaming abilities. And will ask you to back off just a bit, as it seems your becoming less constructive in your post which is not why we come here
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So why haven't you sold the 95?

2 Ch.
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2 Ch.

Good reason as it does this well, my reason for the 95 was to have the benefits of separates in as few boxes as possible to which it has exceeded expectations but as we all do we look down the road its nice to here the price point for what you get from the Sony is out there waiting. I always had the option of putting the ps3 in the main setup but streaming was of low priority and hard disc a priority. As streaming improves and get to the point of what I consider as good as or better I'm pretty content with the current setup. I must say though, usb has put me on notice as far as audio is concerned
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If streaming is so important, then why settle for 720p on the Oppo when you could have 1080p on the Sony?

On my 120" screen there is a huge difference between 720p and 1080p. Especially when sending into the Sony 1000ES. Another debate not worth posting about here.

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I'm sure this thread will return to the S790 thoughts and experiences once the Panasonic BDT500 ships .... That will give the Oppo owners a new target !
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The 790 might put out a reference image with the correct settings. The 590 does with the correct settings, so the 790 might as well. The question is that people prefer it to the Oppo, which we know does a reference image, and so if it is different, the options are:

- The display is handling them differently
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- People are seeing something they want to see

I have no idea which, and so I want to find out. The only thing I take umbrage with is the labeling of any player that's doing reference video as "inferior" or that another one is better, instead of saying they prefer one to the other. I like my Mac laptop, my wife likes her PC, it doesn't make one inferior, they're different tastes.

This statement is the crux of what is driving these postings. I preface most if not all of my postings in various thread as MY PREFERENCE and not that the picture is better and better for me is REFERENCE. I am not here to convince or change someone's mind. However, I think some prefer to say BETTER which in reality is their preference. I think it makes some feel better about their purchase and the money they may have saved as opposed to purchasing the reference standard.

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I'm sure this thread will return to the S790 thoughts and experiences once the Panasonic BDT500 ships .... That will give the Oppo owners a new target !

Joerod, will you be reviewing the BDT500?
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I'm sure this thread will return to the S790 thoughts and experiences once the Panasonic BDT500 ships .... That will give the Oppo owners a new target !

I think someone early on ask the question on how does the S790 compare to the BDP-93 and it has spiraled out of control somewhat. I personally don’t see a true comparison between the 2 players. The Oppo was released in December 2009 (received my BDP-93 early December) with a specific feature set targeting a specific purchaser. The only thing these 2 players have in common is that they both support blu-ray, DVDs, CDs, SACDs and streaming and this is where the comparison ends. The Sony supports 4K as a player being introduced in Q1 2012 should. There are compelling reasons to own either or both players in my opinion.

The trend that I have noticed is that once the price goes north of $400.00 (Denon, Oppo, Cambridge and Marantz just to name a few) there seems to be less of an emphasis on streaming.

Oh yeah! That Panasonic DMP-BDT500 is on my short list for my family room and that question will bring another thread to a screeching halt. I guess I will have to jettison one of the Pioneers to my son for his dorm room. Hey all I need is a reason.

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Definitely. According to sources I will have one here shortly.

Now you know if your preference is for the Panasonic you are going to catch hell here right.

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Good point. Of course that's half the fun.

I don't know why you would catch HELL.

I personally doubt the 500 is better. But if it is - the 790
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I don't know why you would catch HELL.

I personally doubt the 500 is better. But if it is - the 790
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Great point Doc.

After the Panny 500 I don't plan to look at another player until Fall.

My wife is happy about that Joe

Can the Panny be worth $100.00 more than the Sony though.
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