This new player just announced at 2012 CES looks really nice. I have a Bryston SP1.7 pre-pro which does not have HDMI & of course does not decode the latest
surround formats. Rather than turf a really good quality pre pro I can go through the BDT500 7.1 analog inputs. There are other players out there that do similar but they can get pricey. Curious to see what this retails for.
Yes, as well as capability of the player. Spears and Munsil has good patterns for finding the best color space, since some displays can fail with some settings.
It could be to prevent other unneeded noise in the system. No one has proven it does anything extra, but it surely won't hurt. I feel its best to turn it on so that circuitry you are not using is turned off.
I misspoke, and its not "BS" depending on your setup. It applies to shutting off analog video circuitry if you do not need it, with regards to people who use analog audio.
If you use HDMI for everything, no affect either way.
Introducing analog noise on cables which carry digital signals reduces their noise margins. When there's too much noise, the signal can't get through reliably. There'll be occasional signal dropouts and similar problems. HDMI video does not include any error correction code, which is why long cables can cause "sparklies". The electrical resistance of those cables is enough to attenuate the digital video signal so that individual pixels are not received properly by the display. A high analog noise level would exacerbate that.
Seriously? Do you guys actually think the analog section of any modern player can have any effect whatsoever on the digital output? Why has this never been an issue in the history of digital disc players? Has any test or review ever shown such a thing, ever?
Since you said you guys, being plural, I assume you are talking to me too. If so, please note I corrected my statement to say it had to do with analog video processing affecting the analog audio outputs.
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek /t/1386539/panasonic-dmp-bdt500/1260#post_23538762
Since you said you guys, being plural, I assume you are talking to me too. If so, please note I corrected my statement to say it had to do with analog video processing affecting the analog audio outputs.
Gotcha. Didn't mean you. I can see a small possibility of analog noise. But they've also touted this feature on their players that don't even have 7.1 analog audio, hence my BS remark.
Of course it can have a measurable effect if there's crosstalk between wiring in the receiver or outside it. It's basic electromagnetics. Whether there's enough of an effect to make an audible or visible difference is another matter entirely. I doubt there's ever been a reason for any reviewer to bother testing for the effect.
Your 500 is working as designed. The 500 does not have any built-in bass management. The sounds of each audio channel are sent only to the corresponding analog output connection. Low frequencies are not redirected to the subwoofer output.
If you want the subwoofer to be used, you'll either have to use the bass management provided by a receiver or pre/pro (i.e. use HDMI, digital audio or stereo connections) or whatever bass management your subwoofer might have (use speaker-level connections and the subwoofer's low-pass filter to match it to the low frequency cutoff of your front speakers).
My subwoofer works fine playing 2 channel music from CD's.
I'm using the 5.1 Analog Audio Out's from BDT500 to my AVR and I have the player set to 2ch + 5.1ch for the Analog Audio Output setting. I leave the AVR settings the same as with Blu Ray Disc playback and I get 2.1 channel music. My subwoofer is connected to Line In with RCA although I do have both the right and left connected with an RCA Y adapter but that wouldn't make a difference one way or the other.
Maybe my AVR, Pioneer Elite VSX-21 is somehow different but my CD's sound great and I'm not using any bass management that I'm aware of other than increasing the sub output in my AVR.
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My subwoofer works fine playing 2 channel music from CD's.
I'm using the 5.1 Analog Audio Out's from BDT500 to my AVR and I have the player set to 2ch + 5.1ch for the Analog Audio Output setting. I leave the AVR settings the same as with Blu Ray Disc playback and I get 2.1 channel music. My subwoofer is connected to Line In with RCA although I do have both the right and left connected with an RCA Y adapter but that wouldn't make a difference one way or the other.
Maybe my AVR, Pioneer Elite VSX-21 is somehow different but my CD's sound great and I'm not using any bass management that I'm aware of other than increasing the sub output in my AVR.
The front left and right channel analog inputs of the Pioneer VSX21's 5.1 multichannel input are digitized, since they're also used as stereo inputs on the DVD input. This is unlike many more recent receivers, where the 7.1 analog multichannel inputs are completely separate from all the other audio inputs and bypass all digital processing. As a result, the VSX21's digital processing is available to work on those inputs, and thus can provide a signal for the subwoofer if you've set your fronts to be "Small".
If you're using the "2ch (downmix) + 5.1ch" analog output mode, you can connect the player's separate stereo output to a stereo input on your receiver, e.g. to the CD input. The receiver's stereo inputs, including its CD input, can be digitized by the receiver and bass management can be applied to generate a signal for your subwoofer. If your receiver has a "Direct" or "Pure Direct" mode (which minimizes processing), there's usually also a mode called "LFE+MAIN" (or similar) which will generate subwoofer output. However, this latter method usually results in "bloated bass" -- excessive bass output in the frequency range where the subwoofer and main speakers overlap in their frequency response.
I have the 5.1 Analog Audio set up as per the manual. I have my Player Settings in Audio set to 2ch (Downmix) + 5.1ch and for the Downmix I have it set to Surround encoded.
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Angler55,
The front left and right channel analog inputs of the Pioneer VSX21's 5.1 multichannel input are digitized, since they're also used as stereo inputs on the DVD input. This is unlike many more recent receivers, where the 7.1 analog multichannel inputs are completely separate from all the other audio inputs and bypass all digital processing. As a result, the VSX21's digital processing is available to work on those inputs, and thus can provide a signal for the subwoofer if you've set your fronts to be "Small".
My receiver model is just as I said in my previous post, Pioneer Elite VSX-21 although there is a model with the same description but also has THX added to the model designation, I think. Also, right now I have my fronts set to Large in the BDT500 settings and the 2.1 works like it should. I had them set to Small and, if I'm not mistaken it worked that way too but I'd have to set them back to Small to be sure.
I don't know all that much about these AVR's so I'm not going to even guess how or why it does what it does. It sounds pretty good to me as I was just playing Stanley Clarke & Friends Live At The Greek and that is a dynamite CD.
Al
edit: spelling
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