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I am glad the remote for the 500 has buttons and the touchpad.




+1. It looks like it has an eject button too. Panny has an infuriating habit of removing the eject button from their remotes.
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Duplcate post. I pressed the button once, but it posted twice. Strange.
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I feel Panasonic products are only fair. Customer service is terrible, if you have a problem. By the time you get a human voice,you can have lunch. Take my advice by an Oppo Blu ray player. They have the best DACs in the industry. There customer service will go out of there way to assist you. I'm going to purchase the Oppo BDP93. You can use the HDMI inputs and still receive outstanding sound for music. The video quality from this player is unbelievable.

I have had 2 Oppo 93's. First one I had to send back and exchanged for another. The second, I sold. Not impressed. My Sony E1000ES has a better picture.
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It's on amazon.com now:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752R4QO


Est ship date is mid May - early June.

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It's on amazon.com now:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752R4QO


Est ship date is mid May - early June.

Too Late in My Book - I bought the Sony S790 - A better player I think.

I was waiting for the 500 until the S790 came along.
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It's on amazon.com now:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752R4QO

Est ship date is mid May - early June.

Thanks for the "heads up" link.

But it's an Amazon pre-order situation ("2-to-5 weeks") and the price shown is list of $350!

I'll wait another few weeks untill the street price drops to $300.

FWIW my own personal list of reasons to buy this unit is:

1. Blu-ray players in general keep rapidly changing; so I'm not inclined to buy any more expensive blu-ray player than an upper limit of $300 price point.

2. Odds are it is likely to be one of the fastest loaders of a Blu-ray disc (movie or music) that has 7.1 RCA analog outs on the rear panel. This is very high on my own personal "must have" list.

3. My one Blu-ray player so far is a Panasonic DMP-BD85 which has 7.1 analog RCA outs on the rear panel. Decent unit.

I also recently bought and returned a $77 Monoprice Blu-ray player with 7.1 RCA outs. But it had too many minor issues like the poor remote, and limited music input via USB source (external HDD or thumbdrive), hence my return of it.

4. FWIW I understand that Panasonic has poor support that is generally time limited (1 or at most 2 years?) for their Blu-ray players (compared especially to OPPO). But points 1 and 2 (above) persuade me that spending anything more than $300 is a mistake at this time.

But then I already have 2 great working universal disc players from the recent closeout of great DVD universal disc players (both Denon); so I'm not worried that this Panasonic 500 player does not play SACD or DVD-A music discs.

5. Last but not least, the companies behind the whole Blu-ray disc thing seem to me to be guilty of pushing as hard as they can to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

The constant copy protection thing is one, but another recent MAJOR annoyance was a recent Blu-ray movie rental where the disc took over my Panasonic DMP-BD85 player and showed trailers from their other movies.

Which is the last time that I'll rent a Blu-ray movie from Redbox; from now on I'll only rent DVD movies from Redbox.

Given that, spending anything more than $300 on a new Blu-ray player is a very hard stretch for me.

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The constant copy protection thing is one, but another recent MAJOR annoyance was a recent Blu-ray movie rental where the disc took over my Panasonic DMP-BD85 player and showed trailers from their other movies.

Which is the last time that I'll rent a Blu-ray movie from Redbox; from now on I'll only rent DVD movies from Redbox.



Have you tried hitting FF or skip when you get to the nonsense? I haven't had a Redbox BD yet that didn't respond to either of these commands to get to the main menu.
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+1. It looks like it has an eject button too. Panny has an infuriating habit of removing the eject button from their remotes.

Really? What other model has no remote eject button? My current units, 2011 models, have it so close to the Display button that if I had a nickel for every time I ejected a disk when I meant to mess with a setting, I'd be an Oppo owner.
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I have had 2 Oppo 93's. First one I had to send back and exchanged for another. The second, I sold. Not impressed. My Sony E1000ES has a better picture.

I did not know a Sony E1000ES was a blu-ray player.
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I am glad the remote for the 500 has buttons and the touchpad. I have the 320 and HATE the remote, it is a royal pain.

FWIW, Panny has an App for Apple for 2010 and up units. Just don't lose your phone (or Ipad, touch etc) in the seat cushions

I realize it's not 3D buttons but they ARE backlit.
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I did not know a Sony E1000ES was a blu-ray player.

... Sony BDP-S1000ES is the exact model number....released as the Sony BDP-S760 outside of the US.
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Hi
I feel Panasonic products are only fair. Customer service is terrible, if you have a problem. By the time you get a human voice,you can have lunch. Take my advice by an Oppo Blu ray player. They have the best DACs in the industry. There customer service will go out of there way to assist you. I'm going to purchase the Oppo BDP93. You can use the HDMI inputs and still receive outstanding sound for music. The video quality from this player is unbelievable.

Sure but isn't the Oppo a lot more expensive?...using the same logic I could list $2000+ bluray players and compare them to the Oppo and list off the areas in which they could be better than the Oppo.
I have had a Panasonic DMP-BD30 since early 2008 and it still works flawlessly. generally, Panasonic products seem to be of a very high, reliable quality.
And no, I am not a Panasonic fanboy. I also own 2 Samsungs (BD-C6900), 3 Sonys (BDP-S350, BDP-S370, BDP-S760 or "1000ES" in the US), Pioneer BDP-51FD, Phillips BDP5100 and a laptop with a bluray player/recorder built in.
It's amazing how Oppo owners seem to pop up in every damn thread on every single blu-ray player and start comparing their precious Oppos!!!
Don't get me wrong, I like Oppo and owned one of the earlier dvd players.
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I feel Panasonic products are only fair. Customer service is terrible... I'm going to purchase the Oppo BDP93.

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Sure but isn't the Oppo a lot more expensive?

The OPPO 93 blu-ray player is more expensive than a Panasonic DMP-BDT500 blu-ray player.

The OPPO 93 is also already an older player (blu-ray players keep changing very rapidly); not to mention that older blu-ray players are slow to load blu-ray discs.

FWIW I see that pre-orders of the new Panasonic DMP-BDT500 player are now being discounted from it's list price.

See: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=5336055023-20

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The constant copy protection thing is one, but another recent MAJOR annoyance was a recent Blu-ray movie rental where the disc took over my Panasonic DMP-BD85 player and showed trailers from their other movies.

Which is the last time that I'll rent a Blu-ray movie from Redbox; from now on I'll only rent DVD movies from Redbox.

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Have you tried hitting FF or skip when you get to the nonsense? I haven't had a Redbox BD yet that didn't respond to either of these commands to get to the main menu.

AFAIK what I said above was/is true. I've seen only a few others on AVS say the same thing, so I'm not totally sure about it, nor to what extent it happens.

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Amazon's listing for the 500 says 3-5 weeks:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=5336055023-20


But the Panasonic store says 1-3 days:

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMP-BDT500


Since my old Samsung bd-up5000 is dying (blu-ray head failing, see the AVS 5000 thread), I went ahead and ordered from the Panasonic store. Total cost with shipping and tax was $377.94. Shipping was limited to ground (i.e. never got a choice).

According to the on-line support person (Kheanj), to reach me in California, it "probably" ships from the Kent Washington warehouse. So ground should arrive soon.


More details to follow, hopefully in "1-3 days"...

Scott

PS the DMP BDT500 manual is here: http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPER...BDT500-MUL.PDF This PDF is 7.5MB, and their server is slow, so it took me 10 minutes to download.

PPS the Panasonic national parts center is in Kent Washington. So Kheanj may be mistaken. I'll update once a tracking# is issued.
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Amazon's listing for the 500 says 3-5 weeks:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=5336055023-20


But the Panasonic store says 1-3 days:

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMP-BDT500


Since my old Samsung bd-up5000 is dying (blu-ray head failing, see the AVS 5000 thread), I went ahead and ordered from the Panasonic store. Total cost with shipping and tax was $377.94. Shipping was limited to ground (i.e. never got a choice).

According to the on-line support person (Kheanj), to reach me in California, it "probably" ships from the Kent Washington warehouse. So ground should arrive soon.


More details to follow, hopefully in "1-3 days"...

Scott

PS the DMP BDT500 manual is here: http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPER...BDT500-MUL.PDF This PDF is 7.5MB, and their server is slow, so it took me 10 minutes to download.

PPS the Panasonic national parts center is in Kent Washington. So Kheanj may be mistaken. I'll update once a tracking# is issued.

Thanks for the link for the DMP BDT500 manual. I got good xfer rate and the d/l took less than 10 seconds.

Here's hoping that amazon will ship within a week at their current pre-order discount (free shipping when one has amazon's "prime" feature), and that within a few weeks the street price will be near $300.

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FWIW, Panny has an App for Apple for 2010 and up units. Just don't lose your phone (or Ipad, touch etc) in the seat cushions

I realize it's not 3D buttons but they ARE backlit.


Just DL'd the app for my iPad 2. It's amazingly cool. Since Panny hasn't changed their remote codes for a while most functions that aren't on the newer remotes should be available on the app.
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But the Panasonic store says 1-3 days:

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMP-BDT500

More details to follow, hopefully in "1-3 days"...

Scott

Since it is Monday, I called the Panasonic Store customer support line (Panasonic Direct Sales Division at 1-800-405-0652). They said that the "1-3 days" on the Panasonic order web page was the time to get from the warehouse to me. They said that they were not actually in-stock at the warehouse yet, but were "on the way" from the factory.

Also, there is a warehouse in Anaheim and the service rep felt that it would probably leave from there to me (arriving by container ship at the port of Long Beach, then to the Anaheim warehouse, then up I-5 to me).


In looking around, other web sites report that it takes 22 days to cross the Pacific by container ship. The rep did not know when the container ship left port, so it is unknown when that 22 day clock started...

Scott

PS forgot to ask the rep if it was a factory in Japan, Taiwan, or China. The manual says Printed in China (bottom of Page 48), but there is no indication in the manual where the DMP-BDT500 itself is made.
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Since it is Monday, I called the Panasonic Store customer support line (Panasonic Direct Sales Division at 1-800-405-0652). They said that the "1-3 days" on the Panasonic order web page was the time to get from the warehouse to me. They said that they were not actually in-stock at the warehouse yet, but were "on the way" from the factory.

Also, there is a warehouse in Anaheim and the service rep felt that it would probably leave from there to me (arriving by container ship at the port of Long Beach, then to the Anaheim warehouse, then up I-5 to me).

In looking around, other web sites report that it takes 22 days to cross the Pacific by container ship. The rep did not know when the container ship left port, so it is unknown when that 22 day clock started...

Scott

PS forgot to ask the rep if it was a factory in Japan, Taiwan, or China. The manual says Printed in China (bottom of Page 48), but there is no indication in the manual where the DMP-BDT500 itself is made.

Amusing, but NOT laughing.

The Panasonic DMP-BDT500 appears (to me) to now be shipping in the USA. Given the mild price you paid directly with Panasonic, I'd guess you'd get your unit by end of this week or early next week.

The amazon current page is what makes me think that it is now shipping; i.e. that there is now a 2nd supplier on the amazon site with the Panasonic DMP-BDT500 unit shown as "in stock" (at least for this moment in time )

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Amusing, but NOT laughing.

The Panasonic DMP-BDT500 appears (to me) to now be shipping in the USA. Given the mild price you paid directly with Panasonic, I'd guess you'd get your unit by end of this week or early next week.

The amazon current page is what makes me think that it is now shipping; i.e. that there is now a 2nd supplier on the amazon site with the Panasonic DMP-BDT500 unit shown as "in stock" (at least for this moment in time )

On Monday at 1:58pm Pacific Time, Amazon's page says "usually ships within 3 to 5 weeks". And although it now also says "2 new", when I click on that it only actually shows 1 source (Amazon itself). I can see Amazon's $329.99 unit. I can't see the $325.46 source that it also mentions on the previous page.


Also, a quick google search uncovers DavidsonStores that says that they have 13 in-stock for $302.74. But I've never heard of DavidsonStores, and their About statement doesn't inspire confidence, so I can't attest to their reliability.

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On Monday at 1:58pm Pacific Time, Amazon's page says "usually ships within 3 to 5 weeks". And although it now also says "2 new", when I click on that it only actually shows 1 source (Amazon itself). I can see Amazon's $329.99 unit. I can't see the $325.46 source that it also mentions on the previous page.
Scott

Tuesday, 12:50 Pacific Time, the Amazon page now says that it is shipping from the The Price Pros, 5 left in stock, $325.46

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I just received my new BDT500 from Panasonic Online store. Placed the order last Tuesday and received it yesterday. Hooked up and it is an excellent player. Needed the 500 due to the 7.1 analog outputs, VUDU 3d capability and Netflix 1080p streaming. Player is very quiet, fast and everything worls as advertised. Replaced a Panasonic BDT350. Worth the upgrade.
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I used to have the BD 30 and sold to my friend. Slow when compared to today's player, but my friend told me it still works. ^^^ Let us know your impression.
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I just received my new BDT500 from Panasonic Online store. Placed the order last Tuesday and received it yesterday. Hooked up and it is an excellent player. Needed the 500 due to the 7.1 analog outputs, VUDU 3d capability and Netflix 1080p streaming. Player is very quiet, fast and everything worls as advertised. Replaced a Panasonic BDT350. Worth the upgrade.

habibs,

Congrats on your recent acquisition. I pre-ordered from Amazon.com and they project 3 to 5 weeks delivery which works well for me since I will be traveling on business, then vacation for 2 weeks.

I have fond memories of my ownership of the DMP-BD55, which was a fine player for its time.

All the best with this player and I hope it serves you well.

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Yes, it appears that the few on Amazon from The Price Pros are all gone. So Amazon is back to quoting 3-5 weeks (as of Wed 16:22 Pacific Time).

Since habibs ordered one from the Panasonic Store on Tuesday (May 1 ?) and just received it, then I am keeping my fingers crossed that I'll see my May 5th Panasonic Store order in the next day or two (unless the whole ship-full were already spoken for).

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LOL, same here. What the heck is all the hoop-alaa over them? I sold/returned 3 Oppos. Never again, I learned my lesson.

. I have to eat crow (again). I got a gret deal on a Oppo 93 and it works flawlessly, and sorry for the OT. And I look forward to read some reviews of the 500.
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I just received my new BDT500 from Panasonic Online store. Placed the order last Tuesday and received it yesterday. Hooked up and it is an excellent player. Needed the 500 due to the 7.1 analog outputs, VUDU 3d capability and Netflix 1080p streaming. Player is very quiet, fast and everything worls as advertised. Replaced a Panasonic BDT350. Worth the upgrade.

Could you tell me if the bug from the x10 series is gone where analog stereo would be shut off when the player was set to 24p?

I returned my 310 for that and am now looking at the 500. I will only be using stereo analog by the way. If the analog sound quality is not a real improvement over the 220/320 I could also get one of those.
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Waiting to take a look at this player, myself. You guys down there are lucky as your units seem to be shipping already, up here (Canada) it doesn't even show up on their website!
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Could you tell me if the bug from the x10 series is gone where analog stereo would be shut off when the player was set to 24p?

I returned my 310 for that and am now looking at the 500. I will only be using stereo analog by the way. If the analog sound quality is not a real improvement over the 220/320 I could also get one of those.

The BDT350 I had had no analog sound issues. It was connected to a Denon Legacy receiver. The BDT500 I just received has excellent analog output quality hooked to the same receiver. The 220/320 you mention have no 7.1 analog output only HDMI.
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I'm only interested in the 2.0 analog downmix as I will connect the player to an analog stereo amplifier. So a 220 would suffice for me, but I'm willing to pay extra for the 500 if the analog sound quality is clearly better. I only want to make sure that with both of them analog sound works when setting the player to 24p. Not having sound was a bit of a dealbreaker for me with the 310
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