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I have 2 earlier Panasonic bluray models (BDT220 and BD80) the latter being their flagship model circa ~ 2008. Both seem to suffer from the inability to track a smudged disc properly. I could take the same disc and play it perfectly on an even older LG player. I haven't used my new 500 yet (waiting for the man-cave to get completed) so can't comment on that, but here's hoping it will do a better job. Is this just me or have others noticed this tracking issue on various panny models? I wonder if their error-correction algorithms are that different from other manufacturers? - Rick


Weirdly, I came across many posts on different forums regarding different players that BluRay disc reading errors are not infrequent. And, as to your comment, LG players were see to be very forgiving in this regarding, being able to track properly even with minor smudges, etc.

Any ideas about the Gamma adjustment?
Yes, this player seems to be picky with discs - since I rent from Netflix some of the discs I receive are not in the greatest condition - the BDT500 will have trouble playing such discs - usually the video will be pixelated or video skips and lack of sound, and the player becomes almost frozen that the remote control does not work to skip the chapter - I put these discs in Sony PS3 and have no issues with their playback.
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Yes, this player seems to be picky with discs - since I rent from Netflix some of the discs I receive are not in the greatest condition - the BDT500 will have trouble playing such discs - usually the video will be pixelated or video skips and lack of sound, and the player becomes almost frozen that the remote control does not work to skip the chapter - I put these discs in Sony PS3 and have no issues with their playback.
You got to realize the PS3 is a computer.
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Firmware upgrade

I have 2 panasonic bdt500 units. Both require firmware updates, but I thought I have picked up on good and bad things to doing this update. Can someone tell me the advantages and disadvantages to doing this? Haven't been updated in over a year...
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I have 2 panasonic bdt500 units. Both require firmware updates, but I thought I have picked up on good and bad things to doing this update. Can someone tell me the advantages and disadvantages to doing this? Haven't been updated in over a year...
If the BDT 500's both function, then don't do the firmware updates. Firmware updates are not always innocuous and may not be reversible and could leave the 500's non functional, requiring tech support with your units out of warranty (one year, I believe). You might check online and find out what the updates update or call up tech support and wait and wait and wait.
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Huh? Never had any problem updating my 500 connected to the internet nor with my 310.

Updates playability, etc., all worth doing.

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I got my bdt500 today, but I have a problem:

I have 2.0 speakers. I connected the bdt500 with analog cables (right/left) to my analog marantz amplifier. When I play a bluray (original) I get great sound in the commercials before the real movie begins. In the movie itself, I get nice music etc but no dialogues. All the sounds of the movie seems to be there, except for the dialogues.

Music cd is no problem, the player does a great job.
Old dvd's are also no problem.

It must be possible to use the bdt500 with 2.0 speakers right? In the menu, I switched off sound over hdmi. I selected 2.0+5.1 ch over 7.1 ch and downmix is set to stereo. Hopefully somebody here knows what is wrong, otherwise this great player is going back to the store.

Edit: Ok, so you can't select that you have 2.0 speakers. You have to select 2.0 +5.1 and after that, you have to delete 3/4 speakers in the menu where you can enter how large your speakers are. Not to logical..

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I got my bdt500 today, but I have a problem:

I have 2.0 speakers. I connected the bdt500 with analog cables (right/left) to my analog marantz amplifier. When I play a bluray (original) I get great sound in the commercials before the real movie begins. In the movie itself, I get nice music etc but no dialogues. All the sounds of the movie seems to be there, except for the dialogues.

Music cd is no problem, the player does a great job.
Old dvd's are also no problem.

It must be possible to use the bdt500 with 2.0 speakers right? In the menu, I switched off sound over hdmi. I selected 2.0+5.1 ch over 7.1 ch and downmix is set to stereo. Hopefully somebody here knows what is wrong, otherwise this great player is going back to the store.

Edit: Ok, so you can't select that you have 2.0 speakers. You have to select 2.0 +5.1 and after that, you have to delete 3/4 speakers in the menu where you can enter how large your speakers are. Not to logical..
So you got it to work? You were more persistent that I was - when I needed to get 2 channel out of it, I ended up buying a toslink to analog converter and went stereo out of the converter, which downmixes the signal to 2.0. I have to use mine to do presentations where I need portable sound, so I plug my little Bose portable speakers into it. Works well, but getting the sound out of it in stereo had me going for a bit.
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So you got it to work? You were more persistent that I was - when I needed to get 2 channel out of it, I ended up buying a toslink to analog converter and went stereo out of the converter, which downmixes the signal to 2.0. I have to use mine to do presentations where I need portable sound, so I plug my little Bose portable speakers into it. Works well, but getting the sound out of it in stereo had me going for a bit.
Yes, finally it works. However, you would just expect to be able to select 2.0 or 2.1 or 5.1 or 7.1 ch. This is kinda on logical. You have to select '2.0+5.1' as one option and then manually delete the speakers that you don't have, by making them smaller until they are gone.

Was it an expensive dac you got? When you get home, give my solution a try. After all, the burr brown dac is one of the main reasons why we get the bdt500. If you have any questions, let me know.
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Yes, finally it works. However, you would just expect to be able to select 2.0 or 2.1 or 5.1 or 7.1 ch. This is kinda on logical. You have to select '2.0+5.1' as one option and then manually delete the speakers that you don't have, by making them smaller until they are gone.

Was it an expensive dac you got? When you get home, give my solution a try. After all, the burr brown dac is one of the main reasons why we get the bdt500. If you have any questions, let me know.
No - I got it locally at a Fry's - maybe $30-ish - it was a year or so ago. Not a great device, but it works and for playing a Blu-ray dvd out of a set of portable speakers for a small group, it's fine. My laptop will actually play Blu-ray dvds as well, but I am sometimes using that for other things as a part of a class along with the BDT500.
I got my first BDT500 for home use - I had a great Pioneer Elite receiver (59Txi) that was pre-HDMI but had full analog inputs, so I used it with that for a couple of years. The Pioneer died and I replaced it with a Denon X5200w and now use HDMI with that - works REALLY WELL - and Atmos is a nice thing!
I got another BDT500 for my office and use it to show videos there, and when I needed one for portable presentations, I found yet another one on sale on Amazon for a lot less than I had originally bought them for - so I have three of them. The last one is the one I use the dac for.
But you're right - the setup isn't logical. I played with it for a while and gave up.
Another thing that isn't logical - trying to set up anything Panasonic with a WiFi router that includes the plus sign (+) in the password... Panny doesn't know what that is. Grrrr. Had to change my router's password to accommodate it.
Ah, well... glad you got it working. Next time I'm using my portable BDT500 I'll explore your option. One less thing to drag around.
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Here is what you should do.

Buy that Pana 500 in a amsterdam super store. Then buy that Darbee Darblet from amazon usa, only usd 50 shipped to Holland.


Then you would have the same setup as me here in Norway :-)
I use full pop at 40% which give fantastic pics on my benq 1070 from my Pana 500
$50 for a Darbee Darblet? Are you sure, I see them for $299 now.
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$50 for a Darbee Darblet? Are you sure, I see them for $299 now.
Fifty bucks shipping costs.
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And just to having said that, my 500 is having big issues.

Im thinking of replacing it with a 700.

That 700 is more expensive than a Oppo 103.

Being so I already have this usd 300 Darbee box, would a 499 us Oppo 103 be the best option for me ?
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Panasonic DMP BDT500

If you don't need a universal player (Oppo) a Sony would do. Actually this has been said already many times. I like the S790 if you can find one on Amazon or other warehouse with old stock.

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When I play a bluray (original) I get great sound in the commercials before the real movie begins. In the movie itself, I get nice music etc but no dialogues. All the sounds of the movie seems to be there, except for the dialogues.

Music cd is no problem, the player does a great job.
Old dvd's are also no problem.

It must be possible to use the bdt500 with 2.0 speakers right? In the menu, I switched off sound over hdmi. I selected 2.0+5.1 ch over 7.1 ch and downmix is set to stereo.

So the downmix:stereo option doesn't work when playing a lossless track? Try the DD track if possible, since you said it works with trailers and DVD. (Your workaround notwithstanding.)

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If you don't need a universal player (Oppo) a Sony would do. Actually this has been said already many times. I like the S790 if you can find one on Amazon or other warehouse with old stock.
I own a Sony 790 region b

I cannot use in my setup.

I also own a region A sony 5100.

These two remotes are identical, you cannot have both in use.

Thats why I bought the Pana 500
Which is now showing some "issues"
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I own a Sony 790 region b

I cannot use in my setup.

I also own a region A sony 5100.

These two remotes are identical, you cannot have both in use.

Thats why I bought the Pana 500
Which is now showing some "issues"
Cover the 5100's IR window with black electrical tape and control via HDMI CEC or phone app.

Nice thing about Panasonic is you can have up to 3 different IR addresses and load region-free firmware.
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Panasonic DMP-BDT500 Analog Output Setup Problems

I could not resist purchasing the DMP-BDT500 on Amazon in Jan, 2014 for $160 in order to stretch the use of my 10 year old Yamaha RX-V1400 that has no Blu Ray audio capability or even HDMI inputs! That player is probably the last one of any brand to have analog out, except for possibly Oppo, which I had but sold while it still had value without 3D capability. I had a very difficult time setting up the Panasonic and only succeeded using a work-around, i.e. changing the SW volume by 12 dB at the SW when switching Multi-Channel Input "on" and "off" on the AVR. I use "on" when I use the DBT500 to play Blu Ray's and "off" for everything else.

I have a 5.1 system so I went to that part of the settings on the BDT500 Setup Menu > Audio > Analog Audio Out > 2ch (Downmix) + 5.1ch. Clicking that page reveals a graphical speaker setup to modify speaker size, delay and balance (0 to -6 dB ugh!). Setting all speakers small, input delays relative to the front LR speakers and then clicking on test with the AVR set to Multi-Channel Input yielded sounds on all five speakers but it just skipped over the SW! So I was not able to adjust its level. I chose to set all five speakers to -6 dB and left the SW on 0 dB (one could change its level and even take it out or put it in the system, but it never made a sound using the Test feature, which just "jumped" over the icon for the SW clearly proving something is amiss in the player. It was also a mystery of what Xover frequency the BDT500 uses when the speakers are set to small! That clearly is a screw-up on Pana's watch. But the SW silence as to be an error somewhere (I have the latest firmware installed).

Having adjusted all channel volumes already using the AVR internal test tones, I used Avia II to see what the result was with the AVR still on Multi-Channel Input. With the two sets of gains applied, all speakers were equally loud (using a sound meter), but the SW output was very low. so the solution I chose to use is just turning up the SW vol at the SW by 12 dB which balanced the SW with the other channels. Given that I chose small speakers, the analog out from the DBT500 should be the LFE (+10 dB?) + low frequency audio. But there is so much written about problems in players and receivers in handling LFE correctly, I am not sure I have the correct signal coming out of the SW channel of the BDT500. My work around solution requires me to change the volume at the SW by 12 DB each time I want to use the Multi-Channel Analog out (i.e. for Blu-Ray disks). That requires a mirror as the SW controls are on its backside and the SW is very near a wall. That is a bloody pain. Fortunately my SVS sub is almost indestructible in case I end up with an extra 12 dB if I switch while playing loud! If it were not for the puny 0 to -6 dB level range that Pana provided, I would still have had to do a work around even if the SW adjustment did work. All it would have taken would be a range of -6dB to +6 dB. Who are these people that designed this unit?

Does anyone know if others have problems with the SW on the analog out? I could not find anything after much hunting.

What I learned from trying to use the DBT500, a top of the line unit, for analog out is that its sound management is incredibly rudimentary, so much so that even though I found a work-around, I have already scooped out my next AVR. Since my Yamaha has worked flawlessly for a decade, I am going to go with them again and get the RX-A1040, their top of the line 7.2 unit. IMHO digging through the specs and comparing with Marantz, Pioneer and Onkyo of similar price, the Yamaha got my highest score. Even so, it is sad to seen even now USB's are still 2.0, Ethernet is still 100 Mbps and USB media need to be formatted FAT!
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Gosh, not one replay to my experience with the BDT500! After concluding that on Mult-Channel Audio Out, in addition to all its faults that I described above, it appears there is no LFE, I sent the player back on an RMA as it is still on the "parts" portion of the warranty. If they simply replace it, it was worth the $25 to sent it in. If they give me an estimate for repairing that does not seem reasonable, they can do with it what they please.

What I did that led me to believe it was not putting out LFE was go into its menu for Analog Out and set all speakers to large. I then connected it's sub out jack to my subwoofer. Then i played the opening scene of the Gladiator. Nothing came out of the sub! I had also sent the Front L & R signals through my analog subwoofer crossover that until then was bolted into the AV rack unused. In bypass mode all the signals went to the Front L + R speakers, but when bypass mode was turned off, blam, the sub came alive, but it was not the LFE signal if the BDT500's little brain knows what setting speakers to large and telling it there is a subwoofer in the mix means.

Can anyone out there find a flaw in this reasoning?

BTW, The main reason I was hooking up the crossover was to gain more control over the bass management system of the player, which as I indicated in my last post, is pretty dismal for setting the subwoofer volume since inside the player the total range of adjustment is 0 to -6 dB. I think that is related to the infamous 10 dB gain that is supposed to be applied to the LFE signal. My analog crossover has a gain circuit on the sub output that is far easier to adjust when playing BR discs than using a mirror and getting into contortions to reach the gain setting in the back of my SVS sub.
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Gosh, not one replay to my experience with the BDT500! After concluding that on Mult-Channel Audio Out, in addition to all its faults that I described above, it appears there is no LFE, I sent the player back on an RMA as it is still on the "parts" portion of the warranty. If they simply replace it, it was worth the $25 to sent it in. If they give me an estimate for repairing that does not seem reasonable, they can do with it what they please.

What I did that led me to believe it was not putting out LFE was go into its menu for Analog Out and set all speakers to large. I then connected it's sub out jack to my subwoofer. Then i played the opening scene of the Gladiator. Nothing came out of the sub! I had also sent the Front L & R signals through my analog subwoofer crossover that until then was bolted into the AV rack unused. In bypass mode all the signals went to the Front L + R speakers, but when bypass mode was turned off, blam, the sub came alive, but it was not the LFE signal if the BDT500's little brain knows what setting speakers to large and telling it there is a subwoofer in the mix means.

Can anyone out there find a flaw in this reasoning?

BTW, The main reason I was hooking up the crossover was to gain more control over the bass management system of the player, which as I indicated in my last post, is pretty dismal for setting the subwoofer volume since inside the player the total range of adjustment is 0 to -6 dB. I think that is related to the infamous 10 dB gain that is supposed to be applied to the LFE signal. My analog crossover has a gain circuit on the sub output that is far easier to adjust when playing BR discs than using a mirror and getting into contortions to reach the gain setting in the back of my SVS sub.
I am not an expert on this and can't tell if this is true for all devices. But I have seen receivers ignore the subwoofer when you set speakers to Large. Only when speakers are set to small the lower frequency below the speaker cutover frequency is sent to the Sub. I have seen receivers specifically stating that you set speakers to small to trigger the Sub. That way for full range speakers you set them as small and set the cutover to 35 or 40 Hz or whatever is the lowest range your mains can handle and let the Sub handle anything below that range.


Some high end receivers and normally most sound processors have the option where you can set the Front to Large and still send bass freq to the Sub. This allows you to use the Sub to enhance the bass in stereo mode for music. But that is not true with all receivers. I assume it depends on each device. Perhaps Panasonic was not designed to enhance the bass with the Sub when the fronts are set as large.


There was one problem I did notice with my BDT500 a while ago. Dolby digital 5.1 & Dolby TrueHD will only play in stereo (Front L & Front R channels) when using 8 channel analog o/p on the player. However DTS-HD discs do play as desired on all channels on the 8 channel analog output. After working with folks on the AVS forum we finally figured out that setting "HDMI Audio" to off solves the problem with Dolby Encoded Audio. To get multi-surround sound on 7.1 analog o/p you have to set "HDMI Audio" to off. Setting this to "on" will result in Dolby multichannel sound playing in stereo mode (L&R). This setting change impacts only Dolby encoded audio and has no impact on DTS-HD audio. So you might want to check if the setting "HDMI Audio" is messing with your desired configuration.
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Panasonic DMP BDT500

^ The LFE should always come through when playing a discrete 5.1 track though. This is nothing new, everyone (even Panasonic) has been doing it correctly with DVD players since last century.

However good point about setting HDMI Audio to OFF to avoid the stereo mode. I don't know what Mr.Panny was smoking there, but I guess it is an improvement over previous models that resulted in NO ANALOG AUDIO when using HDMI.

The unit was typically praised for 2-channel audio performance. Beware of recommendations from audiophiles that don't even use surround sound. If you need reference quality multi-channel analog and want to keep your old receiver you are better off with an Oppo. If you can't afford that just use coax/optical until you can upgrade. Lossy core bitstream isn't all that bad, and at least you will get all channels at the proper levels, timing, etc. with minimal cabling.
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I didn't bother at all setting speaker levels in my BDT500 - just used the receiver to do that with its MACC (old Pioneer Elite). I tried it, but it was better to send the full signal to all channels on analog, then let the receiver sort things out.

Someone mentioned not setting the speakers to large- your receiver may have been just routing all the bass to the speakers and none to the sub. If I had known that was how it worked, I would never have bought large L-R speakers... Just the smaller ones, and allowed the sub to handle the heavy lifting.

Now I have large LR speakers that sound great with the sub, just like smaller ones would have sounded. Why don't they tell us this?

Sorry I didn't notice your post earlier... Hadn't been on the site for a few days
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I didn't bother at all setting speaker levels in my BDT500 - just used the receiver to do that with its MACC (old Pioneer Elite). I tried it, but it was better to send the full signal to all channels on analog, then let the receiver sort things out.

Someone mentioned not setting the speakers to large- your receiver may have been just routing all the bass to the speakers and none to the sub. If I had known that was how it worked, I would never have bought large L-R speakers... Just the smaller ones, and allowed the sub to handle the heavy lifting.

Now I have large LR speakers that sound great with the sub, just like smaller ones would have sounded. Why don't they tell us this?

Sorry I didn't notice your post earlier... Hadn't been on the site for a few days
I think you did good getting Large speakers. Nothing to regret there. Like AVfile mentioned on a 5.1 track the sub will still fire irrespective of the speaker setting unless you disable the sub. I have yet to see a tiny bose type speaker sound the same as large front towers. There are some smaller bookshelf speakers that sound good with subs but you will find it hard to go back to smaller cube speakers (HT in a box) once you enjoy music on full range speakers. The "Large/Small" speaker setting on receivers is just a setting/term to help you manage the bass frequencies between your main/surround speakers and your sub with many systems allowing you to play your bass on both. That way the SUB enhances the bass on the main towers if they can play full range and also handles lower bass for movies below the playing range of the Mains. If you have the space for it you can't go wrong with full range fronts.
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Thanks all who finally saw my two posts about how much I hate the BDT500 for its buggy multi-channel analog out. To collectively respond to the replies above, I first want to say I did have an Oppo that I sold last year while I could still get a good price from audiophiles who are only interested in stereo, but it did not support 3D or 4k. It was part of a plan to upgrade the TV, AVR and speakers too. We are in between houses now and I bought the 500 to limp along with my old AVR until I knew what our next house would be like. Everyone raves about the Oppo, for good reason, but its multi-channel out was quite rudimentary, but at least it work per the manual except like the 500 it had too small a range of speaker levels to properly handle bass management. Even though both the Oppo and my AVR are 21st century models ca. 2008 the way the Oppo dealt with the LFE, I had to live with a 10 dB bump in all channels when switching multi-channel on/off---a dangerous situation when listening at high levels when the dog steps on the remote. All this because once I heard the improvement Blu-ray give to audio, there is no going back!

The 500's manual is clear about turning off HDMI Audio out when a TV is connected to the HDMI AV OUT and using an AVR for sound. So that should not have been a problem.

The idea that the LFE may be sent to LR's set to large is a possibility, but that would be ridiculous for 99.9% of large speakers as LFE (E for effects) can go below audio frequencies those 99.9% of speakers were not designed for. And the manual is abysmal about to bass management for analog multi-channel. My Yamaha AVR manual indicates that when the SWF set to BOTH, LFE goes to the sub along with those frequencies according to speaker settings, i.e. if small those frequencies below the cross-over frequency and if set large all the LR goes to LR.

Anyway I am very happy with recently joining the AVS family and am really getting into REW, essentially practicing for when I finally pull the lever and update my entire system. So far I am enjoying listening to candidate speakers to replace the Ohm's I sold when I sold the Oppo. BTW, I never realized how great the difference is between dipoles (Martin Logan) and omnidirectionals (Ohm's).
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Thanks all who finally saw my two posts about how much I hate the BDT500 for its buggy multi-channel analog out. To collectively respond to the replies above, I first want to say I did have an Oppo that I sold last year while I could still get a good price from audiophiles who are only interested in stereo, but it did not support 3D or 4k. It was part of a plan to upgrade the TV, AVR and speakers too. We are in between houses now and I bought the 500 to limp along with my old AVR until I knew what our next house would be like. Everyone raves about the Oppo, for good reason, but its multi-channel out was quite rudimentary, but at least it work per the manual except like the 500 it had too small a range of speaker levels to properly handle bass management. Even though both the Oppo and my AVR are 21st century models ca. 2008 the way the Oppo dealt with the LFE, I had to live with a 10 dB bump in all channels when switching multi-channel on/off---a dangerous situation when listening at high levels when the dog steps on the remote. All this because once I heard the improvement Blu-ray give to audio, there is no going back!

The 500's manual is clear about turning off HDMI Audio out when a TV is connected to the HDMI AV OUT and using an AVR for sound. So that should not have been a problem.

The idea that the LFE may be sent to LR's set to large is a possibility, but that would be ridiculous for 99.9% of large speakers as LFE (E for effects) can go below audio frequencies those 99.9% of speakers were not designed for. And the manual is abysmal about to bass management for analog multi-channel. My Yamaha AVR manual indicates that when the SWF set to BOTH, LFE goes to the sub along with those frequencies according to speaker settings, i.e. if small those frequencies below the cross-over frequency and if set large all the LR goes to LR.

Anyway I am very happy with recently joining the AVS family and am really getting into REW, essentially practicing for when I finally pull the lever and update my entire system. So far I am enjoying listening to candidate speakers to replace the Ohm's I sold when I sold the Oppo. BTW, I never realized how great the difference is between dipoles (Martin Logan) and omnidirectionals (Ohm's).

So what sound do you like / prefer - Ohm or Martin Logan?
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Opps! I was afraid I might be getting off message with that comment about speakers. If you promise not to respond, let me just say my gut feeling is that ML electrostatics seem to be fussier WRT their environment for imaging. I am willing to sacrifice great imaging attainable at one particular "magic spot" for less restrictive seating but still have darn good imaging. Of course this is entirely IMHO and is based on living with Ohm's for over 10 years and mere minutes with ML's while retraining my ears for my next purchase which at this point could be anything, even Ohm's again, but for a significantly smaller space.
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Ongoing Netflix issue

As anyone found a workaround or fix to resolve the Netflix streaming issues with this player when not hardwired?
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5.1 via toslink; 2.0 via hdmi splitter to toslink - why?

this is driving me nuts. I have a BDT-500 connected to a Primare Sp31.7 processor. Via the optical/toslink connection I get a 5.1 DD or DTS signal that the processor can decode. I want to run the audio via an HDMI splitter (I'm using one from Ligawo) so the video signal goes by HDMI to my Sanyo Projector and the audio signal via the optical out of the splitter into the processor.

whatever I try it is always stereo and I cannot get a 5.1 signal.

I don't think the splitter is intelligent enough to down sample the 5.1 digital signal to 2.0 so I can't understand why I am only getting stereo.

could the BDT-500 be detecting the projector and thinking, ok, it's a stereo device so stereo is all you are going to get? If so - is there any way of forcing around this?

Normally I always eventually find a solution to these kind of issues but this time I am completely stuck.

any ideas?
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It is smart enough and doing what it is supposed to. When you send audio through your optical, you are sending lossless Dolby and DTS. When you are sending the audio through HDMI, it is lossless TrueHD and Master Audio. Lossless audio can only be carried over optical/coax in 2 channel PCM. You will need to set secondary audio to on in the player to default to the lossless track.

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In my experience, bd mix also results in 2 channel. May have to run optical/coax directly from player to processor.
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I'm fairly certain I've tried turning secondary audio on - according to the menu that should output a DD5.1 signal rather than the lossless format. But I was testing using a DVD rather than a BluRay so I guess it only has DD5.1 or DTS audio.
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