What is so speciial about a $500 Blue-ray Player? - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 31 Old 06-25-2012, 06:55 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
drober30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MI
Posts: 197
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I spend a decent amount of money on my Denon receivers, B&W speakers and any other gear I buy regardless of hobby but I have a hard time thinking that a DBT-1713UD from Denon would be worth $500.

With Blue-ray players changing so quickly and features being added, is it a good idea to spend $500 on a player when the top of the line Samsung is $179.

I'm not so much comparing Samsung to Denon as much as the life expectancy of a Blue-ray player and the $500 price tag.

If there are good reasons, I would be happy to buy the Denon if I can justify it. I will only be watching movies with the player.
drober30 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 31 Old 06-25-2012, 08:53 PM
Advanced Member
 
TuenMuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 540
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Liked: 10
The Denon you are talking about is the low-end model. The mid-range model 3313 is going to cost $999.

Both models are capable to play SACD, if you don't plan to have a SACD player, then you should just stick with Samsung.

BD-A1010/CD-S1000/PF60
HTR-6290/A-S1000/KDL46V5100
NS-555/SOAVO-900C/NS-125F

BD - 242
HD - 7
TuenMuner is offline  
post #3 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 05:52 AM
AVS Special Member
 
psgcdn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Prov. of Quebec, Canada
Posts: 4,453
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked: 199
That implies that $500 to $1000 is buying him an SACD player. $100+ Sony players play SACD as well, so that's not it. Unless you plan on playing lots of DVDs on your blu ray player (and need the best upscaling), then I don't think there's a whole lot of difference in output between a $100 versus a $1000 player. There's some color-space transcoding going on when playing BR that can be different, but I don't think they can be that different.

Remember, it's called "AV Science"!

My HT
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Peter

psgcdn is offline  
post #4 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 06:09 AM
Member
 
DeeGee's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Oakland, NJ
Posts: 114
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11

If you are to spend $500, try to check out the Oppo BDP-93 first:

 

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-93/

wlcohen likes this.
DeeGee is offline  
post #5 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 06:19 AM
Senior Member
 
hakstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Jax, FL.
Posts: 252
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeGee View Post

If you are to spend $500, try to check out the Oppo BDP-93 first:

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-93/

Beat me to it. I had a sony bdp-550 which was excellent. But the sound quality diff from the oppo is night and day. Haven't done a side by side PQ test, but willing to bet the oppo wins that too.

hakstone is offline  
post #6 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 06:41 AM
AVS Special Member
 
psgcdn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Prov. of Quebec, Canada
Posts: 4,453
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked: 199
Quote:
Originally Posted by hakstone View Post

Beat me to it. I had a sony bdp-550 which was excellent. But the sound quality diff from the oppo is night and day.
Only if you use the analog outputs. The bitstream through HDMI is identical.

Remember, it's called "AV Science"!

My HT
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Peter

psgcdn is offline  
post #7 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 08:40 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
rboster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 17,577
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Liked: 63
Here's a thread that may help you: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1337314/all-1080p-is-not-created-equal-a-blu-ray-player-benchmark

I think the real question is there a difference between players performance (along with features). If you are looking for specific suggestions on which player fits your needs, please use the sticky "help me chose a BR player"

"Retired" AVS Moderator
rboster is offline  
post #8 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 08:52 AM
Advanced Member
 
Smackrabbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Portland, OR, USA
Posts: 893
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 30
Expanding on what was said (and recently the Denon players have not been great on pure performance), moving to a player like the Oppo from a Sony S590 (as an example), give you a lot of features that you may or may not need. These include:

- Universal Audio player, if you need DVD-A or SACD support
- Subtitle shift, if you have a Constant Image Height setup and not a standard 16:9 setup
- Source Direct mode, for using a video processor
- Internal memory for BD-Live, as well as stop and resume on DVD discs (which some players now lack)
- Dual HDMI outputs
- 7.1 Analog Outputs

And a few more. For a lot of people, they won't need these are might be reserved for more exotic setups, but it also means the features are there should you need them later (as I use the subtitle shift now, but previously didn't need it). When you get past the $200 players into $500 ones you are paying for a lot of these features, and as these players might sell in smaller amounts they often cost more as well due to that. But examine the extra features on the players, determine if you need them, and then decide based on that. You can get a $130 player that puts out an identical image for almost every Blu-ray disc out there compared to the $500 player, but if you need a feature on a $500 player, then it can be worth it (I have $500 players and $130 players, depending on the room myself).
psgcdn and yadfgp like this.

Chris Heinonen
Senior Editor, Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Displays Editor,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Contributor,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
and
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

ISF Level II Certified Calibrator,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Smackrabbit is offline  
post #9 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 09:01 AM
Senior Member
 
wlcohen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 253
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeGee View Post

If you are to spend $500, try to check out the Oppo BDP-93 first:

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-93/

Ditto on that, then go out and get some SACD's to play!
wlcohen is offline  
post #10 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 09:23 AM
AVS Special Member
 
psgcdn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Prov. of Quebec, Canada
Posts: 4,453
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked: 199
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smackrabbit View Post

Expanding on what was said (and recently the Denon players have not been great on pure performance), moving to a player like the Oppo from a Sony S590 (as an example), give you a lot of features that you may or may not need. These include:
- Universal Audio player, if you need DVD-A or SACD support
- Subtitle shift, if you have a Constant Image Height setup and not a standard 16:9 setup
- Source Direct mode, for using a video processor
- Internal memory for BD-Live, as well as stop and resume on DVD discs (which some players now lack)
- Dual HDMI outputs
- 7.1 Analog Outputs
And a few more. For a lot of people, they won't need these are might be reserved for more exotic setups, but it also means the features are there should you need them later (as I use the subtitle shift now, but previously didn't need it). When you get past the $200 players into $500 ones you are paying for a lot of these features, and as these players might sell in smaller amounts they often cost more as well due to that. But examine the extra features on the players, determine if you need them, and then decide based on that. You can get a $130 player that puts out an identical image for almost every Blu-ray disc out there compared to the $500 player, but if you need a feature on a $500 player, then it can be worth it (I have $500 players and $130 players, depending on the room myself).

Excellent post!

Remember, it's called "AV Science"!

My HT
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Peter

psgcdn is offline  
post #11 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 09:33 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Jacob305's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,405
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smackrabbit View Post

Expanding on what was said (and recently the Denon players have not been great on pure performance), moving to a player like the Oppo from a Sony S590 (as an example), give you a lot of features that you may or may not need. These include:
- Universal Audio player, if you need DVD-A or SACD support
- Subtitle shift, if you have a Constant Image Height setup and not a standard 16:9 setup
- Source Direct mode, for using a video processor
- Internal memory for BD-Live, as well as stop and resume on DVD discs (which some players now lack)
- Dual HDMI outputs
- 7.1 Analog Outputs
And a few more. For a lot of people, they won't need these are might be reserved for more exotic setups, but it also means the features are there should you need them later (as I use the subtitle shift now, but previously didn't need it). When you get past the $200 players into $500 ones you are paying for a lot of these features, and as these players might sell in smaller amounts they often cost more as well due to that. But examine the extra features on the players, determine if you need them, and then decide based on that. You can get a $130 player that puts out an identical image for almost every Blu-ray disc out there compared to the $500 player, but if you need a feature on a $500 player, then it can be worth it (I have $500 players and $130 players, depending on the room myself).

while that might be true for some. I think there is one item that you are missing. yes all blu ray player have some sort of problems. that is true about any electronics. however its more about how the company reacts to it. some are much better then others and some never get fixed and some get fixed more quickly then others. there is one differnce between the oppo and other companies. its the costumer service is just outstanding. they beat pretty much any of the brand name players. you will probably wont know that until you get a player like the oppo. for some 500 might be a steep. its a bargin compared to others. they could easily sell this thing for more then 500. like they do with the 95.

Jacob
Jacob305 is offline  
post #12 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 09:43 AM
Senior Member
 
hakstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Jax, FL.
Posts: 252
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

Only if you use the analog outputs. The bitstream through HDMI is identical.

I am using analog.

hakstone is offline  
post #13 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 10:40 AM
AVS Special Member
 
psgcdn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Prov. of Quebec, Canada
Posts: 4,453
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked: 199
Yeah, then it matters. bass management is a pain though. I switched to HDMI for SACD and boy does that make it easier (same AVR bass management as other content, no LFE to boost by 10 dB or more) and cheaper (it's only a transport so who cares; $140 Sony S590 works well!).

Remember, it's called "AV Science"!

My HT
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Peter

psgcdn is offline  
post #14 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 10:50 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
drober30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MI
Posts: 197
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Thanks everyone for the replies!

I probably don't need the additional features mentioned except for the stop/resume feature. I love that feature and sometimes watching a movie with my wife can takes hours so this feature is priceless.

The other feature and the reason I started looking at this player is the Denon remote app. I would like to controll the player using my iPad.

Mostly though, I would love a player that played the crappy discs fron the rental store. I would hope that a higher end player could muscle past some of the scratches or defects that my current Samsung seems to be terrible at.
drober30 is offline  
post #15 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 10:51 AM
Senior Member
 
hakstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Jax, FL.
Posts: 252
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

Yeah, then it matters. bass management is a pain though. I switched to HDMI for SACD and boy does that make it easier (same AVR bass management as other content, no LFE to boost by 10 dB or more) and cheaper (it's only a transport so who cares; $140 Sony S590 works well!).

I'm still running an onkyo TX DS989, no HDMI.

hakstone is offline  
post #16 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 03:41 PM
Advanced Member
 
Smackrabbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Portland, OR, USA
Posts: 893
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 30
As far as iOS apps go, the Samsung one was much better than the other apps I have used recently. Whereas most of them just mimic the remote control, Samsung has actually designed an app that can do that, but also is context aware of what's on screen and adjusts based on that, so you can use it to do things more easily than you could with a normal remote. I'm still amazed that more companies haven't done this, as otherwise I find the iOS remotes to be annoying since they offer nothing over the normal remotes, only have no tactile buttons to use. There's no way I'd buy a player just for the iOS remote feature, as you could buy a full universal remote for the price difference.

Chris Heinonen
Senior Editor, Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Displays Editor,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Contributor,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
and
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

ISF Level II Certified Calibrator,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Smackrabbit is offline  
post #17 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 04:30 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
BillP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 13,705
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Liked: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by drober30 View Post

Mostly though, I would love a player that played the crappy discs fron the rental store. I would hope that a higher end player could muscle past some of the scratches or defects that my current Samsung seems to be terrible at.

I wouldn't count on that. My first BluRay player was a fairly expensive ($550 51FD) Pioneer, and it had the worst error correction, much worse than the inexpensive Panny 110 that replaced it. Mainly, what you pay for with more expensive players is better audio DACs (which are only important if you use analog audio outs), SACD/DVD-A capability, and dual HDMI outs (which you only need if you have a 3D display and a non-3D receiver).
BillP is offline  
post #18 of 31 Old 06-26-2012, 10:45 PM
Senior Member
 
johncourt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 388
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillP View Post

I wouldn't count on that. My first BluRay player was a fairly expensive ($550 51FD) Pioneer, and it had the worst error correction, much worse than the inexpensive Panny 110 that replaced it. Mainly, what you pay for with more expensive players is better audio DACs (which are only important if you use analog audio outs), SACD/DVD-A capability, and dual HDMI outs (which you only need if you have a 3D display and a non-3D receiver).

The panny 500 has analogue outs and dual hdmi and costs $350. The sony 790 has dual hdmi and supports SACD at $250. Actually, all sony players from 2011 and 2012 support SACD; even their $40 model from last year a refurb BX 18/185.
johncourt is offline  
post #19 of 31 Old 07-05-2012, 10:21 AM
Senior Member
 
willieconway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 338
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by drober30 View Post

Mostly though, I would love a player that played the crappy discs fron the rental store. I would hope that a higher end player could muscle past some of the scratches or defects that my current Samsung seems to be terrible at.

I got a Panasonic DMP-BDT220 a couple of months ago and love it. However, I'm glad I kept my old, fat PS3. I watch a lot of Blu-rays and have come across a handful, maybe a few more, that wouldn't play on the 220. The PS3 on the other hand will play anything and seems to eat scratches and dirt for breakfast. It's (still) an awesome and very reliable Blu-ray player.

Adjusting settings according to personal preference is not
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.
willieconway is offline  
post #20 of 31 Old 07-06-2012, 02:16 AM
Senior Member
 
johncourt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 388
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 20
Oddly, I had the opposite experience. My first 590 was rather 'selective' about what disks it would play. I inspected each one, and none of the disks in question had anything beyond very slight scratches or smudges. It's possibie even likely that there are simply random bad units in just about every line of players.
johncourt is offline  
post #21 of 31 Old 07-06-2012, 03:56 AM
Advanced Member
 
Kingcarcas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: East Los Angeles
Posts: 753
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked: 30
Those $500 would be better spent on Denon headphones me thinks.

Kingcarcas is offline  
post #22 of 31 Old 07-13-2012, 08:49 PM
AVS Special Member
 
dirk1843's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northeast Arkansas
Posts: 1,599
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 13
I don't understand the pricing structure for Denon BluRay players myself.

I owned a 2910 DVD player, and was happy with it.....planned on buying a Denon BluRay when I upgraded. I run a 3808 AVR that replaced a 3803......I guess you could say I was a Denon fanboy.

However, I now own an Oppo BDP-93. The Denon brings nothing to the table that the Oppo doesn't have it covered on.

The ONLY thing Denon had going for it was DenonLink.....before we could get DSD over HDMI.......now it is regulated to the highest end models, and the way I understand it, requires 2 connections now, one for a clock signal, but the actual audio will be carried over HDMI.

I don't see me upgrading AVRs anytime soon, but when/if I do, I am pretty sure I will look to Denon first, but just give their BluRay a passing glance.

I've seen things you wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
dirk1843 is offline  
post #23 of 31 Old 01-24-2013, 12:32 PM
Newbie
 
csferguson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I think everybody sympathizes with you about the cost. Times are tough, right? You say that you only watch movies, so for the most part, you're right. Save your money. If, however, you're an audiophile then you want absolutely the best sound and the Denon gives it. Noticeably better. Another good reason for the Denon is that it will play almost ANY disk. My entry level Sony Blu-Ray was cheap, but it wouldn't play SA-CDs, which was a real frustration. In addition to playing all disks, the Denon Blu-Ray is DLNA-certified and you can set up a simple DLNA server in your house on your computer to send music, photos and videos to the Denon. Great convenience. So that's why I like it: networking, all disk formats accepted, and above all THE BEST SOUND.
csferguson is offline  
post #24 of 31 Old 02-05-2013, 08:24 PM
AVS Special Member
 
AVfile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ontario, CANADA
Posts: 1,952
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 54
Get the $3500 Lexicon. It's just as good as the $500 Oppo but looks way cooler and the faceplate is nice and thick wink.gif

- AVStefan
If you like someone's post, just use the Like button to give thanks.
AVfile is offline  
post #25 of 31 Old 02-06-2013, 06:54 PM
Advanced Member
 
Rich86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: USA - California
Posts: 743
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 27
The more I read - the happier I am with my Sony BDP-S1000ES purchased from BestBuy for $89 on closeout. It provides everything I want from a blu-ray player, it provides superb audio and video, it has played everything I have ever thrown at it, it rarely gets firmware updates (maybe once a year) but then it always works so who really cares, and it is cinavia free. And it looks perfectly fine in my home theater cabinet.

A long-time audio/video addict!
Rich86 is offline  
post #26 of 31 Old 02-06-2013, 07:01 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Jacob305's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,405
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich86 View Post

The more I read - the happier I am with my Sony BDP-S1000ES purchased from BestBuy for $89 on closeout. It provides everything I want from a blu-ray player, it provides superb audio and video, it has played everything I have ever thrown at it, it rarely gets firmware updates (maybe once a year) but then it always works so who really cares, and it is cinavia free. And it looks perfectly fine in my home theater cabinet.

the only problem I had with a sony player was playing netflix through an lcd tv set. I never played a sony netflix on a plasma. I also had this problem with the oppo 93. however once I switched to plasma it went away. I would still pick oppo over sony. Iwent around in circles with sony/internet company and netflix about the problem with the netflix. it didnt go anywhere. i was stuck going in circles. a least with oppo I know that I will get great service.

Jacob
Jacob305 is offline  
post #27 of 31 Old 02-07-2013, 12:29 PM
Advanced Member
 
Rich86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: USA - California
Posts: 743
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

the only problem I had with a sony player was playing netflix through an lcd tv set. I never played a sony netflix on a plasma. I also had this problem with the oppo 93. however once I switched to plasma it went away. I would still pick oppo over sony. Iwent around in circles with sony/internet company and netflix about the problem with the netflix. it didnt go anywhere. i was stuck going in circles. a least with oppo I know that I will get great service.
Jacob

I've never had any need for service from Sony . . ever . . TVs, DVD players, blu-ray players, portable equipment, etc . . they all work fine out of the box and I've never had one fail. However, I also have no need for streaming services from a blu-ray player at all so I cannot comment on how well a Sony player handles that (although the Sony players I purchased for our children seem to handle streaming just fine, from what they have said). When I have the urge to stream something for viewing, my HDTV (a Sony) handles it. But I have no need for it and haven't used it much beyond experimenting.
I understand Oppo provides excellent customer support and based on posts in here, Oppo customers seem to use it a fair bit and value it greatly.

A long-time audio/video addict!
Rich86 is offline  
post #28 of 31 Old 02-08-2013, 10:22 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Bud-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,403
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich86 View Post

The more I read - the happier I am with my Sony BDP-S1000ES purchased from BestBuy for $89 on closeout. It provides everything I want from a blu-ray player, it provides superb audio and video, it has played everything I have ever thrown at it, it rarely gets firmware updates (maybe once a year) but then it always works so who really cares, and it is cinavia free. And it looks perfectly fine in my home theater cabinet.

Try throwing a PAL dvd in it....NOT!!

Bought a sony last week at costco, threw in a concert from Germany, no disc found,,, back it went ...pronto!!
Sony/Panasonic ..etc, still up to the same chit......no thanks!!
Bud-man is offline  
post #29 of 31 Old 02-08-2013, 10:23 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Bud-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,403
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich86 View Post

The more I read - the happier I am with my Sony BDP-S1000ES purchased from BestBuy for $89 on closeout. It provides everything I want from a blu-ray player, it provides superb audio and video, it has played everything I have ever thrown at it, it rarely gets firmware updates (maybe once a year) but then it always works so who really cares, and it is cinavia free. And it looks perfectly fine in my home theater cabinet.

Try throwing a PAL dvd in it....NOT!!

Bought a sony last week at costco, threw in a concert from Germany, no disc found,,, back it went ...pronto!!
Sony/Panasonic ..etc, still up to the same chit......no thanks!!
Bud-man is offline  
post #30 of 31 Old 02-09-2013, 07:23 AM
AVS Special Member
 
AVfile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ontario, CANADA
Posts: 1,952
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 54
You only have room for one DVD player?!

- AVStefan
If you like someone's post, just use the Like button to give thanks.
AVfile is offline  
Reply Blu-ray Players

Tags
Blu Ray Movies , Blu Ray Players , Denon , Samsung , Samsung Bd P1600 Blu Ray Player , Oppo , Oppo Bdp 83 Blu Ray Player
Gear in this thread - P1600 by PriceGrabber.com

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off