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post #14221 of 21456 Old 01-12-2014, 07:37 AM
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I have two "satellite" Netgear GS105 (gigabit switches) in use around my house with CAT6 interconnects to the attached devices (even if they aren't capable of gigabit speeds).

Each GS105 is connected via long CAT6 cable runs to my main Netgear WNDR4000 gigabit router, with my PC's also connected via CAT6 interconnects either directly to the router or to one of the GS105's.

Never considered the FS105.

 

I see, the FS105 was something I had lying around. My network is mostly Cisco enterprise gear and it wasn't worth upgrading to Gigabit at Fast Ethernet seemed plenty fast for the things I do.  BTW is the BD-103 Ethernet port Gigabit capable? I looked at the user docs and it doesn't seem to mention.

 

If so this may be a good reason to move my server and the 103 to dedicated Gigabit segment if I'm going to be viewing insanely HD content at some point.

 

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Has anyone tried installing a NFS server on a Windows 7 or Windows 8 system? Any recommendations? I know there's one from HaneWin, which isn't free, and another called FreeNFS. Depending on how difficult these are to setup, it may be a viable solution for people who are having issues connecting to SMB shares with Windows 7 or are using Windows 8. I'd like to have a bit of direct experience with this in the beta test group, so we might be able to provide some useful advice.

 

I have not tried a NFS server under Windows but am using the Microsoft NFS client under Windows XP. It's basically rubbish as performance is sub par as far as I can tell compared to SMB when connected back to my Linux server (CentOS 6.4). I run a number of Windows and Unix clients which mounts drives via this server and basically have found SMB is optimal for Windows, and NFS for Unix clients respectively. I suspect the BD-103 runs an embedded *nix OS variant, hence the better results with NFS.

 

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I see, the FS105 was something I had lying around. My network is mostly Cisco enterprise gear and it wasn't worth upgrading to Gigabit at Fast Ethernet seemed plenty fast for the things I do.  BTW is the BD-103 Ethernet port Gigabit capable? I looked at the user docs and it doesn't seem to mention.
Nope, the BDP-103's Ethernet port is 10/100.
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Nope, the BDP-103's Ethernet port is 10/100.

 

Oh well, I guess that nixes that idea. So to play really high bw content kind of stuck to a locally attached USB disk I guess.

 

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I'm not seeing this behaviour via SMB. All my Blu-ray disc's are backed-up to the .MKV container and are stored on external NTFS formatted HDDs, which are connected to my Synology DS212+ NAS via USB3. All my switch-gear is 10/100...

I've just played some high bit-rate scenes from Avatar, Avengers Assemble and Cloud Atlas without any issues. And my 60Mbps test samples (in .MKV and .M2TS) also play okay.

Hi!

Thats really weird….because my friend has the same problem as me and he has a different router.

30mbps throught SMB and 90mbps trought NFS.

But hey!….if it works for you then its great!smile.gif
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Thats really weird….because my friend has the same problem as me and he has a different router.

30mbps throught SMB and 90mbps trought NFS.

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Has anyone tried installing a NFS server on a Windows 7 or Windows 8 system? Any recommendations? I know there's one from HaneWin, which isn't free, and another called FreeNFS. Depending on how difficult these are to setup, it may be a viable solution for people who are having issues connecting to SMB shares with Windows 7 or are using Windows 8. I'd like to have a bit of direct experience with this in the beta test group, so we might be able to provide some useful advice.

Win 7 Ultimate and Enterprise versions have built in NFS services.
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Oh well, I guess that nixes that idea. So to play really high bw content kind of stuck to a locally attached USB disk I guess.

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Why? Blu-Ray content is only, at the most, 50mbps.


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Very odd problem with an audio CD: This CD plays perfectly on my two other players (Marantz CD-5004 and Denon DVD-3910). However, on the Oppo, Track 1 plays fine, but Track 2 onwards seem to be afflicted with lots of errors--all I know is that there is a lot of static that plays along with the music on the remaining tracks. It's a pristine, clean disc--no visible scratches or marks. It's on the Delos label, which is NOT a label afflicted with bronzing and which did not use the infamous Sony copy protection ("rootkit") scheme.

I thought I would try to make a copy of the disc on my Windows PC, but using foobar2000, the program hangs ("Not Responding"). I couldn't even get the CD drawer to open without first shutting down the PC. Same thing happened with Exact AudioCopy. Finally, I tried to copy the disc with these same two programs on another Windows PC--same thing occurred.

So I have a CD that plays fine on two players, sounds messed up through the Oppo, and crashes computers!

By the way, I am using the Oppo's HDMI1 and HDMI2 outputs -- same issue with both. I also tried the analog outputs and had the same issue.

Any thoughts on what's wrong, or on what else I can try to copy this disc?

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I am a long time Denon 3808 owner and the unit has worked flawlessly in my HT for years. In the past few weeks I purchased an Epson 6020 pj (to replace my 3 yr old Epson 8500UB) and an Oppo 103. My plan was to run the HDMI 1 output from the Oppo to the pj so I can get 3D video and to have HDMI 2 ouput to the 3808 for audio only. On paper this looked like a great solution to extend the life of the 3808 and not replace it.

However, when I tried this last night I was able to get the picture working fine, but no audio. :-(

I played around in both the Denon 3808 and Oppo 103 menus, but still no audio.

I really want this to work as I don't want to buy a newer Denon AVR just so I can have 3D video.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance for your help and input.

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I have almost the same setup, Oppo BDP-103, Denon 3808 and Epson 5030UB. Everything worked fine for me with the video going to the pj and audio to the Denon. Did you set the Oppo to send Audio over HDMI rather than mirror mode? Also, make sure you don't have the HDMI output reversed on the Oppo. You will still get a picture on the PJ but no audio if you have HDMI 1 from the Oppo going to your Denon.
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I've got Win 7 Ultimate, but haven't been able to locate a NFS service anywhere, including the Add/Remove Windows features. Any idea how to set it up? Perhaps we could move this to the other forum and report back here later...
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Very odd problem with an audio CD: This CD plays perfectly on my two other players (Marantz CD-5004 and Denon DVD-3910). However, on the Oppo, Track 1 plays fine, but Track 2 onwards seem to be afflicted with lots of errors--all I know is that there is a lot of static that plays along with the music on the remaining tracks. It's a pristine, clean disc--no visible scratches or marks. It's on the Delos label, which is NOT a label afflicted with bronzing and which did not use the infamous Sony copy protection ("rootkit") scheme.

I thought I would try to make a copy of the disc on my Windows PC, but using foobar2000, the program hangs ("Not Responding"). I couldn't even get the CD drawer to open without first shutting down the PC. Same thing happened with Exact AudioCopy. Finally, I tried to copy the disc with these same two programs on another Windows PC--same thing occurred.

So I have a CD that plays fine on two players, sounds messed up through the Oppo, and crashes computers!

By the way, I am using the Oppo's HDMI1 and HDMI2 outputs -- same issue with both. I also tried the analog outputs and had the same issue.

Any thoughts on what's wrong, or on what else I can try to copy this disc?

You have perfectly described an unreadable audio CD. Crackles and static during playback is the sound of unreadable sectors. The fact that it hangs your PC drives further supports that. Some drives will play it and some won't, which is expected. You see that pretty regular with recordable CDs, less often with store-bought discs.
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I've got Win 7 Ultimate, but haven't been able to locate a NFS service anywhere, including the Add/Remove Windows features. Any idea how to set it up? Perhaps we could move this to the other forum and report back here later...

In "turn Windows features on and off", you should see an entry for "Services for NFS". If its not there I don't know what.
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You have perfectly described an unreadable audio CD. Crackles and static during playback is the sound of unreadable sectors. The fact that it hangs your PC drives further supports that. Some drives will play it and some won't, which is expected. You see that pretty regular with recordable CDs, less often with store-bought discs.

Curses! Never happened to me before... Usually when a disc is messed up, Exact AudioCopy will show the unreadable tracks--but it crashed the program. Thanks for the info--I just ordered a new copy.

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Apologies if this is not the correct place to ask, I don't frequent the forum that often. If that is the case please point me in the right direction. I have searched the forum and exhausted my google-fu without much luck.

The problem I am running into is the following:

I have a BDP-103 connected to a Denon AVR-X4000 receiver via HDMI. The Receiver is also connected to my TV via HDMI. When I play a Blu-Ray disc everything works fine. However I cannot get a DVD (or the Oppo main menu) to display on my TV. When I play a DVD the sound works, but no video.

I have the BDP-103 video setting on Dual HDMI. I am pretty certain this is a configuration problem somewhere, but I really do not understand the interactions between multiple pieces well enough to fix it on my own. Can anyone help or point me in the right direction? I can easily provide any additional details.

Thanks in advance!

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I thought I would try to make a copy of the disc on my Windows PC, but using foobar2000, the program hangs ("Not Responding"). I couldn't even get the CD drawer to open without first shutting down the PC. Same thing happened with Exact AudioCopy. Finally, I tried to copy the disc with these same two programs on another Windows PC--same thing occurred.
Try using ImgBurn to 'Create image file from disc'. And use ImgBurn again to 'Write image file to disc'...

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If you want DSD from SACD you need to use HDMI2. For LPCM both HDMI will work.

This restriction is removed on the -103D, by the way.

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Thanks Bill. So really no restrictions at all.
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Apologies if this is not the correct place to ask, I don't frequent the forum that often. If that is the case please point me in the right direction. I have searched the forum and exhausted my google-fu without much luck.

The problem I am running into is the following:

I have a BDP-103 connected to a Denon AVR-X4000 receiver via HDMI. The Receiver is also connected to my TV via HDMI. When I play a Blu-Ray disc everything works fine. However I cannot get a DVD (or the Oppo main menu) to display on my TV. When I play a DVD the sound works, but no video.

I have the BDP-103 video setting on Dual HDMI. I am pretty certain this is a configuration problem somewhere, but I really do not understand the interactions between multiple pieces well enough to fix it on my own. Can anyone help or point me in the right direction? I can easily provide any additional details.

Thanks in advance!

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What model is the TV?

What is the player output resolution set to? If Source Direct, try 1080p. It could be your AVR or TV are not liking 480i60 over HDMI, which is what Source Direct for DVD will produce.

If you are using 1080p, do you have 1080p24 off or on? Switch it to other and see if that makes a difference.

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I don't connect my devices through a router. I connect them through 16-port and 8-port 10/100 switches.
Certainly a reasonable approach, although putting your computers on this 10/100 switch network limits them. Is this switch gigabit on the upstream connection, but 10/100 for the 16 ports below it??

The only potential "downside" to this approach (not that it will probably ever come to light given most equipment used in your LAN) is that each "branch" off of the router and 10/100 switches is itself limited to total 100MB bandwidth simultaneously being used by ALL of the devices underneath it.

So your entire LAN is actually limited to 1GB total combined in-use speed from that router port but in reality is limited to 100MB because the switch is 10/100, even though the router could theoretically support 4x1GB. Again, I realize this is probably NEVER going to be a problem, but it is the result of using only one port on the router and connecting it to a "slow-speed" 10/100 16-port switch to really control your entire LAN.

Then, below your 10/100 16-port switch (which itself supports a total of 100MB simultaneous bandwidth you have an 8-port switch which again is limited to a total of 100MB for all of the devices it supports because it's upstream-connected to a 10/100 port of the 16-port switch. And of course all devices connected to the 8-port switch combine (when in use) and are further subject to the total of 100MB capacity of the one port of the 16-port 10/100 switch above it which itself is limited to 100MB total bandwidth for all 16 ports (since it's a 10/100 switch).

In my own setup, I have my two desktops and one laptop (all of which have gigabit NIC's) connected to three ports of my gigabit router. While external access to the Internet is obviously limited to my ISP service, within the LAN (e.g. PC-to-PC) these three devices can operate at gigabit speeds. Then the fourth port of the router goes to the first of my GS105 4-port gigabit switches (same as your 16-port switch), which supports up to three "devices local to that first GS105" and the fourth port then feeding a second GS105 (same as your 8-port switch) and up to three more "devices local to that second GS105". Note that NONE of the devices connected to either of the GS105's are themselves faster than 10/100. None are gigabit-capable. But in total, if they were all in use simultaneously they could theoretically add up to more than 100MB. And that's the advantage of using gigabit switches connecting to a gigabit router or a gigabit port of an upstream gigabit switch. The total simultaneous in-use of multiple 10/100 devices can theoretically exceed 100MB, which would be a serious issue impacting device performance. That's why gigabit switches vs. 10/100 switches are the right way to go, in my opinion.

In other words, I'd prefer to use the ports of the router for gigabit-capable devices, and send all of the downstream 10/100 devices through the gigabit switches running off of one gigabit port of the router. I wouldn't want to "only potentially" limit my PCs ability to talk to each other at gigabit speeds (because I'd connected them on slow-speed 10/100 switches) because of other simultaneous activity (e.g. streaming HDTV from my WMC HTPC to extenders/HDTV's around my house) that might be going on from other devices on the LAN... though I realize these are all slow-speed 10/100 devices. It's the total bandwidth being used simultaneously by a switch (i.e. by all connected devices underneath it) and its upstream maximum capability (either to an upstream switch port or router port) which impacts everything's performance.
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I had somehow managed to miss that last night, but it turns out that "Services for NFS" installs a NFS client service for connecting to NFS shares, not a service for providing NFS shares from Windows.
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Actually you are, your cable modem / router is a router and is managing your network. Your switches are unmanaged and just extend the router's connectivity.
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What model is the TV?

What is the player output resolution set to? If Source Direct, try 1080p. It could be your AVR or TV are not liking 480i60 over HDMI, which is what Source Direct for DVD will produce.

If you are using 1080p, do you have 1080p24 off or on? Switch it to other and see if that makes a difference.

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Thanks for responding Bill.

The TV is a Sony KDL-5HX800. Player output resolution was set to auto but I tried 1080p and still no luck. I've tried 1080p24 both off and on.
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Thanks for responding Bill.

The TV is a Sony KDL-5HX800. Player output resolution was set to auto but I tried 1080p and still no luck. I've tried 1080p24 both off and on.

What happens if you bypass the receiver and connect the player directly to the TV?

You are in North America and are playing domestic DVDs, not imports?

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What confuses me the most is that the Oppo main menu does not display either. Any ideas what kind of output the menu is?

If I bypass the receiver and connect directly to the TV everything works as expected.
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It's all 10/100 switch-gear. It's been running for around 10 years so it's probably time to upgrade the switches. Over the years it's proved most reliable. And it's still possible to play files on those rare occasions my ISP goes down.

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What confuses me the most is that the Oppo main menu does not display either. Any ideas what kind of output the menu is?

My display says 1080@60, but doesn't specify progressive or interlaced.
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If I bypass the receiver and connect directly to the TV everything works as expected.

That's a clue the problem is some setting in the receiver.

Could you answer my other question: You are in North America and are playing domestic DVDs, not imports?

You don't have the player TV System set to PAL, do you?

Does your display have an info On Screen Display that will show the resolution and frame rate of the incoming signal? What does it show for the signal that does work when the player is connected directly to the display, but does not work when going through the receiver?

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What confuses me the most is that the Oppo main menu does not display either. Any ideas what kind of output the menu is?

If I bypass the receiver and connect directly to the TV everything works as expected.
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My display says 1080@60, but doesn't specify progressive or interlaced.
If I set the Oppo's 'TV System' option to 'NTSC', my LG TV reports 1080p 60Hz. If I set the Oppo's 'TV System' option to 'PAL', my LG TV reports 1080p 50Hz. And if I set the Oppos 'TV System' option to 'Multi-system', my LG TV reports 1080p 50Hz.

EDIT: If your Denon AVR-X4000Your receiver is anything like my Onkyo, it offers a whole host of post-processing options 'by default'... If so, try turning them off?

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I just updated my 103 to the latest official FW (BDP10X-67-1204). I have a question on the new "Auto" setting for DSD. I had my 103 set to DSD for stereo SACD playback using the analog output. For multichannel SACD playback I use the HDMI 1 output so it would force the setting to PCM. But with the new FW with the DSD setting I get no audio signal from the HDMI 1 output. When I use the Auto setting it works fine and defaults to PCM for multichannel playback. When I switched over to my activity for stereo SACD playback (Parasound 2100 preamp with the 103 analog output) it appears that it is in DSD mode as the PCM icon is not showing on the 103's display.

So my question for the "Auto" DSD mode is that if one is using the analog outputs of the 103 does it default to DSD automatically? In the FW notes for item #5 it states "Added the "Auto" mode when choosing the SACD output audio format. This mode is available at the Setup Menu -> Audio Format Setup -> SACD Output". This doesn't really go into much detail so it makes me wonder how the "Auto" DSD mode actually works. Everything seems to be working fine but I was just curious as to the "Auto" mode smile.gif.

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Hi Bill,

The standard BDP-103 passes DSD via HDMI output #2 only. What happens if you use this connection?

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