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I actually keep my sharpeness closer to 7. The 103d has a few other settings 2 play with to give more depth. I have a week 2 decide which to keep. I can tell u right now the 103d gives a much better picture if you feed it an excellent source.(and by this I mean top notch blu rays such as avengers and Pacific rim). Im still experimenting witb lower sources.

The 103d adds the Darbee processing which you can also get in a Darbee Darblet (or Lumigen with Darbee processing). If you get that feature separate from your Blu-Ray you can add it in the chain (assuming some kind of HDMI matrix switch for the sources) just before the display. Then you can take advantage from Darbee for your other sources.

Just a thought... I got mine in a Lumagen 2041 that is in the chain to the projector.

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I personally see the biggest difference in detail and depth if sharpness is turned up. Even at +1 you can see the difference. Thats when the power of the processor is utilized most tho most people here don't utilize it.

What I have heard is that OPPO calibrated the video so that the defaults are optimized. Maybe not for everyone's eyes. Just like audio, people like their video a certain way.

I'll be the first to admit my eyes are not what they used to be. I am near sighted and only watch with my glasses on since contact cause ghosting with front light ( like night driving). ....another whole topic for most I would guess....

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When I first got my 60" plasma, I thought it was out of focus. Put my glasses on and it came into focus. I got my TV calibration settings from a professional calibrator on my TV's thread on here. OPPO's settings are still 0 for me.

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The 103d adds the Darbee processing which you can also get in a Darbee Darblet (or Lumigen with Darbee processing). If you get that feature separate from your Blu-Ray you can add it in the chain (assuming some kind of HDMI matrix switch for the sources) just before the display. Then you can take advantage from Darbee for your other sources.

Just a thought... I got mine in a Lumagen 2041 that is in the chain to the projector.

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not sure how many people have done major experimenting but ive found the VRS chip is actually stronger than darbee. Adjusting the vrs settings can bring the picture more into focus than darbee can. Darbee is more like icing on the cake.

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I actually keep my sharpeness closer to 7. The 103d has a few other settings 2 play with to give more depth. I have a week 2 decide which to keep. I can tell u right now the 103d gives a much better picture if you feed it an excellent source.(and by this I mean top notch blu rays such as avengers and Pacific rim). Im still experimenting witb lower sources.
I raised the the sharpness to 2 and I was able to noticed a slight improvement in depth. Im still trying to figure out what to adjust under video set up like if should change color space and output resolution.

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I raised the the sharpness to 2 and I was able to noticed a slight improvement in depth. Im still trying to figure out what to adjust under video set up like if should change color space and output resolution.

most keep it at 1080P. I need 2 do more experimenting but tonight on my 103D I discovered that sports look much better on 1080i and then crank up enhancements and theres no grain/noise increas unlike 1080P.

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Because of this discovery im most likely keeping the 103d and returning 103.

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Yesterday I was watching a DVD and the Oppo just froze
The controls didn't work and I had to turn off the player
Then I started my cheapo Philips player and played the same scene
No problems, played fine
I have the European Oppo 103 and was watching season 1 of Ripper Street (region 2 DVD)
Maybe the Oppo froze on the layer change?
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most keep it at 1080P. I need 2 do more experimenting but tonight on my 103D I discovered that sports look much better on 1080i and then crank up enhancements and theres no grain/noise increas unlike 1080P.
ray0414, how did you achieved this picture quality is it because of the Darbee effect?

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i tried the +1 IN SHARPNESS....WITH bLLU-RAY (WOLF OF WALLSTREET) wow WHAT AN AWESOME DIFFERENCE...GOOD TIP GUYS!!

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When I first got my 60" plasma, I thought it was out of focus. Put my glasses on and it came into focus. I got my TV calibration settings from a professional calibrator on my TV's thread on here. OPPO's settings are still 0 for me.

 



Same here. Oppo settings at 0.

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i tried the +1 IN SHARPNESS....WITH bLLU-RAY (WOLF OF WALLSTREET) wow WHAT AN AWESOME DIFFERENCE...GOOD TIP GUYS!!

I like sharpness at +1 too. It can make a big difference sometimes. Though other times it seems to have the opposite effect and I will go in and put it back down to -0-. It just depends on the content I am watching.

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Settings are personal preference of course, but keep in mind that raising Sharpness can create a perception of "false detail".

To see what's REALLY going on with detail, look at a Luma (black and white) Zone Plate test chart from a calibration disc and compare Sharpness 0 and +1 to see which looks "cleaner". The "Hyperbolic" Zone Plate chart found on Disney's, "WOW World of Wonder" calibration Blu-ray disc seem to be particularly good at showing what's going on here.

Assuming your display is properly calibrated to begin with, my recommendation would be to leave Sharpness at 0 in the 103 for both HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 video output.

This is for playback of high quality content of course. If you are playing problematic content, then tweaking the settings may produce a more pleasing result. My personal preference is to NOT try to chase settings adjustments for poorer content. I view the poorer content "as is" as a reminder not to buy that sort of stuff in the future.
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it depends on each persons tv for what "false detail" means. not everyone has a good tv that has a focused and dialed in picture. for tvs that have subpar processors, the oppo can help make up for the lost ground. take for instance this picture i just took. even though its from the 103D, it provides a great arguement. the entire screen has darbee ON, but the left side of the blue demo line is using the VRS chip i have detail at +5 and edge enhancement at +12. The right side has all enhancements off except darbee. the difference is quite amazing. at the top, look at the word SONY, notice that SO is more crisp and had more accurate color than NY. Also look closely at the net, you can see all the detail on the left side and not as much on the right side. another major enhancement is the white border court lines, on the left side they are much more in focus and a brighter more solid white, whereas the right side looks..crappy.


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it depends on each persons tv for what "false detail" means. not everyone has a good tv that has a focused and dialed in picture. for tvs that have subpar processors, the oppo can help make up for the lost ground. take for instance this picture i just took. even though its from the 103D, it provides a great arguement. the entire screen has darbee ON, but the left side of the blue demo line is using the VRS chip i have detail at +5 and edge enhancement at +12. The right side has all enhancements off except darbee. the difference is quite amazing. at the top, look at the word SONY, notice that SO is more crisp and had more accurate color than NY. Also look closely at the net, you can see all the detail on the left side and not as much on the right side. another major enhancement is the white border court lines, on the left side they are much more in focus and a brighter more solid white, whereas the right side looks..crappy.
And all I see is a bunch of edge enhancement artifacts on the left hand side. Eeeewwww. (Tom-ay-to, Tom-ah-to.)
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And all I see is a bunch of edge enhancement artifacts on the left hand side. Eeeewwww. (Tom-ay-to, Tom-ah-to.)

there are zero noticable artifacts on the tv. its completely clear. if i crank the detail up to around 10 then they start to show up.

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it depends on each persons tv for what "false detail" means. not everyone has a good tv that has a focused and dialed in picture. for tvs that have subpar processors, the oppo can help make up for the lost ground. take for instance this picture i just took. even though its from the 103D, it provides a great argument. the entire screen has darbee ON, but the left side of the blue demo line is using the VRS chip i have detail at +5 and edge enhancement at +12. The right side has all enhancements off except darbee. the difference is quite amazing. at the top, look at the word SONY, notice that SO is more crisp and had more accurate color than NY. Also look closely at the net, you can see all the detail on the left side and not as much on the right side. another major enhancement is the white border court lines, on the left side they are much more in focus and a brighter more solid white, whereas the right side looks..crappy.


Using that much enhancement can sometimes look good in a still picture, but I bet panning scenes are very jerky with noticeable motion artifacts.
I've tried experimenting with similar settings and ultimately it's an epic fail when viewing certain content. When I dial the settings back to -0-, the bad effects go away.
In order to cover up such effects, then you are forced to use artificial smoothing enhancements like "Motionflow" or whatever it happens to be called in a particular display.
The end result will be far from what the original content looks like, and the fake detail you added looks worse than the real detail you lost.
Ultimately there just isn't a way to cure poorly recorded or poorly mastered video content.
Thank goodness newer stuff is being created these days that looks better and better, like Blu-ray... and hopefully 4k media and streams will be made to their full potential and we won't have to keep looking for ways to improve the source.

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Maybe you should preface your comments about using the OPPO to overcome bad sources and bad displays with that caveat. smile.gif
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Using that much enhancement can sometimes look good in a still picture, but I bet panning scenes are very jerky with noticeable motion artifacts.
I've tried experimenting with similar settings and ultimately it's an epic fail when viewing certain content. When I dial the settings back to -0-, the bad effects go away.
In order to cover up such effects, then you are forced to use artificial smoothing enhancements like "Motionflow" or whatever it happens to be called in a particular display.
The end result will be far from what the original content looks like, and the fake detail you added looks worse than the real detail you lost.
Ultimately there just isn't a way to cure poorly recorded or poorly mastered video content.
Thank goodness newer stuff is being created these days that looks better and better, like Blu-ray... and hopefully 4k media and streams will be made to their full potential and we won't have to keep looking for ways to improve the source.

the edge enhancement with the 103D is a strange setting because it can be increased without introducing artifacts(and even says this in the manuel) unlike the sharpness/detail settings that do/can bring on artifacts.. ive been a huge sports fan all my life of all the major sports, with these settings i dont see any issues with panning. when watching movies, settings will probably need to be adjusted depending on what type of movie you are watching too.

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Maybe you should preface your comments about using the OPPO to overcome bad sources and bad displays with that caveat. smile.gif

this is correct actually lol. i was extremely unhappy with the focus of the samsung F7100, its much weaker than the 8000. so all it really is doing is bringing it closer to the 8000 picture. how many people have the top percentage of tvs though? not many, which means alot of people could benefit from the upscale processing of an oppo, as long as they arent over doing it!!

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If you ever want to test the quality of camera panning on your display, get the movie RED (Bruce Willis).
In the beginning of the movie there is a 360 degree medium speed panning that will show you how good or bad it is being rendered on your display. wink.gif

I do also agree that settings for one source might not be better for all sources.
So thankfully, the player include 2 pictures modes that you can toggle through and be set independently.
Could use MODE1 for Blu-ray, MODE2 for dvd, and MODE3 for cable/sat broadcasts.
It would also be cool if Oppo made it so you can assign those MODES to any given input, and then you wouldn't have to manually switch between them. smile.gif

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Maybe you should preface your comments about using the OPPO to overcome bad sources and bad displays with that caveat. smile.gif

this is correct actually lol. i was extremely unhappy with the focus of the samsung F7100, its much weaker than the 8000. so all it really is doing is bringing it closer to the 8000 picture. how many people have the top percentage of tvs though? not many, which means alot of people could benefit from the upscale processing of an oppo, as long as they are over doing it!!
Keep in mind that you are in an OPPO thread, and it doesn't represent the TV owning population as a whole.

The term "properly calibrated display" gets used a lot in OPPO threads. It's kind of the foundation for getting the most out of an OPPO player. tongue.gif

A lot of us take the approach to poor sources that Bob Pariseau does.

"This is for playback of high quality content of course. If you are playing problematic content, then tweaking the settings may produce a more pleasing result. My personal preference is to NOT try to chase settings adjustments for poorer content. I view the poorer content "as is" as a reminder not to buy that sort of stuff in the future."
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And all I see is a bunch of edge enhancement artifacts on the left hand side. Eeeewwww. (Tom-ay-to, Tom-ah-to.)

I certainly see the edge enhancement artifacts in that photo.

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There's a whole forum here devoted to display calibration, and what goes wrong if you use various odd settings.

On that split screen image, it looks to me like there's obvious haloing of the white court lines on the left hand half.
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I certainly see the edge enhancement artifacts in that photo.

if you get close enough to any picture or tv, you can see some type of artifacts no matter what your screen looks like(except if your viewing a 4k tv with content that was shot using a 4k camera). what your seeing in the picture is because your looking at your screen from 18 inches away, set it down and look at it from a few feet a way and the micro artifacts you may see will disappear. same thing with a tv, unless your watching tv from 4feet away you cant see the artifacts from the picture in real life. now if i crank the detail up to MAX, yes it looks horrendous and is screaming artifacts, but at lower levels it can improve the detail without seeing artifacts.

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Old 03-26-2014, 02:21 PM
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ray0414, how did you achieved this picture quality is it because of the Darbee effect?

this picture was taken on the regular 103, with no darbee. just had sharpness turned up to around 7. but that movie (pacific rim) is one of the clearest movies out there.

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Review of KS9800vsJS9500 w/side by side pix: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post45720113
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If you ever want to test the quality of camera panning on your display, get the movie RED (Bruce Willis).
In the beginning of the movie there is a 360 degree medium speed panning that will show you how good or bad it is being rendered on your display. wink.gif

That particular scene has a great deal in inherent motion judder in it, but you're correct that it does drive some displays crazy. Still it will never look completely right.
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Yes sir, I think you are correct. I should have clarified that the judder will never disappear, BUT... it will get worse with certain 'enhancements' engaged,
You don't have to use that example exclusively though. Just try pushing some of the enhancements like -DetailE, -EE, -Smoothing... then watch just about any movie and you'll see judder at some point.
Turn off the enhancements and the judder will mostly disappear.
Not saying that to you, I know you already know that, but just sayin... for the topic at hand.

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