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The file that works in MCH has AAC (LC) extension. Could it be streaming MCH audio only works with "LC" (Low Complexity". I have to try a few other things, but this could be the issue. The strange thing is the 5.1 that gets played as 5.1 has all the center channel into on mains, so Oppo apparently creates a 2.0 downmix.

More likely its your DNLA server doing this. Turn off all transcoding in the server software.
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More likely its your DNLA server doing this. Turn off all transcoding in the server software.

Mystery continues. I converted a DVD to aac MCH and it still plays only stereo. All transcoding is off on my (Synology) DLNA server. A converted Blu Ray, showing the exact same audio stream parameters (48/16 6 channels AAC (LC)) is playing MCH just fine. I'm at a complete loss here.

Using Jriver as DLNA server, the files won't play at all.
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Same file only plays 2 channel over from USB storage. It plays 5.1 with Jriver on my HTPC. I tried this on three diffent Oppos.
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Same file only plays 2 channel over from USB storage. It plays 5.1 with Jriver on my HTPC. I tried this on three diffent Oppos.
so what happens when you use the JRiver DLNA server (with transcoding off) instead of the one built into the Synology?

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Same file only plays 2 channel over from USB storage. It plays 5.1 with Jriver on my HTPC. I tried this on three diffent Oppos.

Could we see the mkvinfo or mediainfo results for both types of file?

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so what happens when you use the JRiver DLNA server (with transcoding off) instead of the one built into the Synology?

I get a "file type not supported" message, on both the converted BR movie and the DVD tracks.
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Could we see the mkvinfo or mediainfo results for both types of file?

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I cannot get s screenshot somehow, but they both say the exact same thing:

First Audio Stream
English 48.0 KHz, 6 channels AAC (LC)
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I cannot get s screenshot somehow, but they both say the exact same thing:

First Audio Stream
English 48.0 KHz, 6 channels AAC (LC)

I think both tools allow text output.

The fact that you get the same behavior on USB is revealing, meaning network servers are not the issue (yet).

Contact OPPO support, send the text output of one of the tools, and offer them sample files.

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Has anyone used the Superdisc software mod to make their player DVD multi region with the latest firmware upgrade from Oppo.

Main Version: BDP10X-70-0218
Loader Version: 6U1000 or 7B1300 (BDP-103), 7B1300 (BDP-105, BDP-105D, BDP-103D)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105), MCU13D-01-0618 (BDP-103D), MCU15D-01-0930 (BDP-105D), DB10X 131030 (BDP-103D, 105D)

I have a 103 and would like to try this but would like some feedback before I do.

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I get a "file type not supported" message, on both the converted BR movie and the DVD tracks.
A file type not supported message received from the DLNA server would generally mean that the player/renderer (the Oppo in this case) has told the DLNA server that it can't handle the encoding or format of the file you are attempting to play. This would explain why every attempt by you to use the Oppo to play the file, whether over the network or on locally-attached (USB) storage, is failing.

A) Note than in all of the following cases, the Oppo is actually unpacking, decoding, and "playing" the file:
1) Play file over network through Synology NAS (DLNA)
2) Play file on USB drive attached to Oppo USB Port
3) Play file over network through JRiver Media Center's DLNA subsystem. ("Media Network")

B) Meanwhile, when you play the file on your PC using JRiver, it works. Please note that this is not the same operation as 1-3 above. In this mode, it is JRiver on the PC that is doing the unpacking, decoding, and playback - not the Oppo.

So, from (B) above, we can conclude that there are no problems with the file itself. It is not a problem with encoding or formatting errors of any kind, since this would result in failures for both (A) and (B). Since we do not see a failure in (B)...

So the problem must be some basic incompatibility between the file being used and the playback mechanism in the Oppo. Sounds like you need to send the detailed information to Oppo (as others have recommended) and see what Oppo has to say about it.

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Has anyone used the Superdisc software mod to make their player DVD multi region with the latest firmware upgrade from Oppo.

Main Version: BDP10X-70-0218
Loader Version: 6U1000 or 7B1300 (BDP-103), 7B1300 (BDP-105, BDP-105D, BDP-103D)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105), MCU13D-01-0618 (BDP-103D), MCU15D-01-0930 (BDP-105D), DB10X 131030 (BDP-103D, 105D)

I have a 103 and would like to try this but would like some feedback before I do.

David

It should work just fine.
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Thanks will try it today and post the results on the forum
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A file type not supported message received from the DLNA server would generally mean that the player/renderer (the Oppo in this case) has told the DLNA server that it can't handle the encoding or format of the file you are attempting to play. This would explain why every attempt by you to use the Oppo to play the file, whether over the network or on locally-attached (USB) storage, is failing.

A) Note than in all of the following cases, the Oppo is actually unpacking, decoding, and "playing" the file:
1) Play file over network through Synology NAS (DLNA)
2) Play file on USB drive attached to Oppo USB Port
3) Play file over network through JRiver Media Center's DLNA subsystem. ("Media Network")

B) Meanwhile, when you play the file on your PC using JRiver, it works. Please note that this is not the same operation as 1-3 above. In this mode, it is JRiver on the PC that is doing the unpacking, decoding, and playback - not the Oppo.

So, from (B) above, we can conclude that there are no problems with the file itself. It is not a problem with encoding or formatting errors of any kind, since this would result in failures for both (A) and (B). Since we do not see a failure in (B)...

So the problem must be some basic incompatibility between the file being used and the playback mechanism in the Oppo. Sounds like you need to send the detailed information to Oppo (as others have recommended) and see what Oppo has to say about it.

Bit more troubleshooting with weird results.

If I rip a track from a Blu Ray with PavTube bytecopy to MKV / AAC it plays MCH just fine. If I rip with the exact same settings from a DVD the track shows the same codecs (AAC), but it plays 2 channel.

If I rip a track from that same DVD to MKV / AAC using handbreak, it will play in 2 channel as well. If I set handbreak to DTS Pass Thru, the track plays MCH. All this is in Oppo. In Jriver everything plays MCH.

Problem is, ripping individual tracks with Handbreak is a lot more work than in PavTube, because you have to create a queue one track at a time, but it may be the only way to get MCH playable individual tracks from DVDs.... Half a days work gone to waste ..... Oh well.
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Just made my Oppo 103 multi region for DVD playback using the Superdisk software mod and the latest Oppo firmware no issues
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Just made my Oppo 103 multi region using the Superdisk software mod and the latest Oppo firmware no issues
You do realize that that is multi-region for DVD only and not for Blu-Ray. Multi-region Blu-Ray requires a hardware mod.

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Yes I do was really only interested in multi region for DVD, should have been more specific in my post
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Will this player support and play the AVCHD 2.0 3D format that Sony, Canon and Panasonic camcorder shoot their native files in (.MVC), without having to convert them to SBS .mkv and lose quality in doing so?

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google search brings this answer

http://wiki.oppodigital.com/index.php?title=BDP-103
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I have my satellite receiver going to the rear HDMI. I unplugged to reset the receiver and inadvertently, (stupidly) shorted across the plug. Took out the dedicated fuse for the home theatre, crashed the receiver, and took out the HDMI on the 103. The other aspects of the 103 do not seem to be affected. I have an 83 that I use for a vintage audio system where I do not need the HDMI's. I collect and refurbish tube gear but know little about digital. It looks like the HDMI,s are the same in both, can I remove one from the 83 and place it in the 103, is it a soldering job or a plug in. Would I be able to just buy another HDMI and Install it (preferred). Any advice would be appreciated, another option is that if OPPO is soon to come out with an updated model, I would give this one to a family member, who doesn't need two HDMIs, and buy a new one, any rumors. Thanks ron
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Thanks I am considering that, but if it is a simple exchange for the HDMI I would like to try that first.
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google search brings this answer

http://wiki.oppodigital.com/index.php?title=BDP-103

 

I read this entier thing and did not see anything about AVCHD 2.0 3D, (.MVC file extension) .  I saw only AVCHD, which is 2d as far as I know.  Does this mean this player will not play it?

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I would contact Oppo directly and ask them then..
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More information, please.

Is this on local USB, network SMB or DLNA?

There are free utilities mediainfo and mkvinfo. Post the text report from either one for one of your problem files.

-Bill

From mediainfo:
Matroska:4.37 GiB, 1hr 45 mn
1 video stream: AVC
1audio stream: DTS
2 text streams: UTF-8 / UTF-8

Writing application:mkvmerge v6.6.0

English, 4 442 Kbps, 1280*720 (16:9) at 23.976 fps, AVC (High@L4.1) ( CABAC / 5 Ref Frames)

From the Oppo:
Shows file on the menu for movies, but no time or resolution info.
Will not play from a shiny disc, but same file will play from a flash drive.

Here is my current gear: Onkyo TX-NR809 Receiver, CarverTFM-35 Front Amp, Sony EX55-720 3D TV, Oppo BDP-103 3D Blu-Ray Player, Panasonic DMB-BD50 Blu-Ray Player (for Cinavia encrusted copy playback), Polk RTI-12 Fronts, Polk LSiM703 Rears, Polk DSW Pro600, Older Infinity Center.
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Will not play from a shiny disc, but same file will play from a flash drive.

It plays from a USB device but not from an optical disc?

That sounds like a file system issue on the optical disc. What are using to burn the disc, and with what parameters?

I have found that once you cross a certain file size, care must be taken to author the disc correctly or the player won't read them properly.

See recent discussion in the BDP-93 thread:



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It plays from a USB device but not from an optical disc?

That sounds like a file system issue on the optical disc. What are using to burn the disc, and with what parameters?

I have found that once you cross a certain file size, care must be taken to author the disc correctly or the player won't read them properly.

See recent discussion in the BDP-93 thread:



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Yes the files play fine from a flash drive.... but not from a disc. I use imgburn and always have. I'll put like 5 or 6 mkv movie files 3-4 GB each on a blank blu -ray disc and the Oppo will see the files and list them, but I'll get the "unsupported file format" message for some of the files. Like it may play the first file and the 3rd but not all.

Now, I'm wondering if the mkv file was made from a region restricted disc. Is it possible these mkv files won't play from a disc but will from a usb flash drive?????? That could be the reason?

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Now, I'm wondering if the mkv file was made from a region restricted disc. Is it possible these mkv files won't play from a disc but will from a usb flash drive?????? That could be the reason?

No, I would first look at the file system parameters on the optical disc. See the links I posted previously.

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Yes the files play fine from a flash drive.... but not from a disc. I use imgburn and always have. I'll put like 5 or 6 mkv movie files 3-4 GB each on a blank blu -ray disc and the Oppo will see the files and list them, but I'll get the "unsupported file format" message for some of the files. Like it may play the first file and the 3rd but not all.

Now, I'm wondering if the mkv file was made from a region restricted disc. Is it possible these mkv files won't play from a disc but will from a usb flash drive?????? That could be the reason?

Its not impossible that the BD disc is simply being burned poorly, making some files unreadable. Suggest you try burning at a lower speed and see if that helps.
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I just got cable installed and was wondering how do I hook up the cable box to the Oppo so it can convert the 1080i signal to 1080p? Thanks.

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