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Those who have the oppo player connected straight to a power amp through the pre outs, please do a test for me.

I noticed that setting the trim of an individual speaker in speaker configuration over 0dB distorts my sound. This is extremely noticeable when playing clean FLAC audio songs especially in female voices. Almost sounds like crackling or scratching in the voice. Having the speaker trim at 0dB or in the negative gives nice clean sound but anything positive gives the crackling.

Please try it and let me know if it is just my player or all.

Play a FLAC song with the FL and FR speaker trim at +5dB in the speaker configuration. Listen to a song with a female voice. Then listen to it again with the trim at 0dB or a negative trim.

Please let me know. Thanks!
Sounds like you are clipping the amp. Try lowering main Volume out of the OPPO and see if it goes away. If so lower ALL your speaker volume trims the same amount so they are all 0dB or below. Now see if you can get a pleasing volume level out of the OPPO without clipping. If not then your amp is not a good match for direct connection to the OPPO. Use a pre-amp in between.
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Those who have the oppo player connected straight to a power amp through the pre outs, please do a test for me.

I noticed that setting the trim of an individual speaker in speaker configuration over 0dB distorts my sound. This is extremely noticeable when playing clean FLAC audio songs especially in female voices. Almost sounds like crackling or scratching in the voice. Having the speaker trim at 0dB or in the negative gives nice clean sound but anything positive gives the crackling.

Please try it and let me know if it is just my player or all.

Play a FLAC song with the FL and FR speaker trim at +5dB in the speaker configuration. Listen to a song with a female voice. Then listen to it again with the trim at 0dB or a negative trim.

Please let me know. Thanks!
Do you understand what you're doing by increasing the Oppo's trim on your FL and FR channels? You're increasing the output voltage on those analog connectors. As Bob mentioned previously, increasing voltage on your Oppo's rca outs is clipping/overdriving your power amp's inputs. Increasing trim to +5 db is nearly doubling your voltage on those analog outs.
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Does anyone know if the Oppo does any of it's fancy video processing if you are playing a .avi file from the flash drives? I think .avi is supposed to be similar (if not a bit higher) quality than DVD, but of course if I play a DVD I know it's getting the extra processing to upconvert it.

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Does anyone know if the Oppo does any of it's fancy video processing if you are playing a .avi file from the flash drives? I think .avi is supposed to be similar (if not a bit higher) quality than DVD, but of course if I play a DVD I know it's getting the extra processing to upconvert it.

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DVD is a container that contains MPEG2 video. AVI is just a container as well, and it can contain various types of video formats.

I know this doesn't answer the question, but I think it's important to distinguish video codecs from video containers.


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![/quote] Do you understand what you're doing by increasing the Oppo's trim on your FL and FR channels? You're increasing the output voltage on those analog connectors. As Bob mentioned previously, increasing voltage on your Oppo's rca outs is clipping/overdriving your power amp's inputs. Increasing trim to +5 db is nearly doubling your voltage on those analog outs.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't aware of that. I thought it was level matching like an AVR does. Doesn't the actual volume on the oppo increase the voltage to the amp as well increasing the overall sound? My volume isn't anywhere near 75dB when I play music. If I increase the trim, I lower the overall volume, if I decrease it, I raise the overall volume to compensate.

If my trim is 0 or negative, I can crank the volume to over 90dB with no distortion, if the trim is positive, even listening with the volume at around 60dB I hear the distortion.

Maybe I'm just not aware how this trim works since I'm used the the trim/level setting in the AVR and never experienced this.
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^ Set all the trims so the highest trim value is 0dB. If you can get a pleasing volume level without distortion, and with the OPPO Volume at 70 or above, then you are good to go.
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^ Set all the trims so the highest trim value is 0dB. If you can get a pleasing volume level without distortion, and with the OPPO Volume at 70 or above, then you are good to go.
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Sounds good Bob. Thanks! Oppo support just emailed me and told me the same thing. They said for my setup, I should set the quietest speaker to 0dB and set the others to negative trim to match.
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I really like all the video quality features of the Oppo 103. I have no need for the audio features as I am happy with my AVR. This fall I am going to get a Vizio P702ui-B3. It has 4k upscaling and a full-array local dimming backlight with 64 dimmable zones. Will I still benefit from the 103? I want the best picture quality available for a $3000 budget (blu-ray player and tv combined). So, I can budget the Oppo, but I don't want to spend the money if I don't have to. Thanks for your help.
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I really like all the video quality features of the Oppo 103. I have no need for the audio features as I am happy with my AVR. This fall I am going to get a Vizio P702ui-B3. It has 4k upscaling and a full-array local dimming backlight with 64 dimmable zones. Will I still benefit from the 103?
Don't forget the value of the two external HDMI inputs on the 103. This allows you to also utilize the Oppo's picture-enhancing/cleanup capabilities as applied to satellite/cable HDTV 1080i/720p input (delivered untouched "native resolution as-is" from the source DVR/STB, so that only the Oppo features are applied).

This capability is unique to the Oppo players, and I believe you'll find it invaluable for improving satellite/cable HDTV picture quality.
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Don't forget the value of the two external HDMI inputs on the 103. This allows you to also utilize the Oppo's picture-enhancing/cleanup capabilities as applied to satellite/cable HDTV 1080i/720p input (delivered untouched "native resolution as-is" from the source DVR/STB, so that only the Oppo features are applied).

This capability is unique to the Oppo players, and I believe you'll find it invaluable for improving satellite/cable HDTV picture quality.
Thanks, man. I didn't think about that.
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Updated to the new firmware over the weekend and still have an old problem and a new one.

After muting or pausing Directv I get an audible "pop" when I turn the volume back on or hit the play. I thought that this problem was corrected two firmware versions ago but apparently it is back. I run analog 5.1 outs to my AV receiver.

Secondly, when playing a dvd if I try to rewind the OPPO the image freezes on the screen but the counter continues to roll backwards as it should. The only way to get it to change is to turn everything off, then back on again. It does not matter if I use the OPPO remote or my Harmony remote. Can I reload the version that last worked for me ( two versions back) or ??

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Problems accessing networked USB HDDs

Hi guys,
I need some help with mapping my USB HDDs on my network to my Oppo 103 player.
Basically my setup is this: I have a couple of USB HDDs connected to a USB hub. The USB Hub is connected to my Airport Extreme Router. I would like my 103 to play from those drives on the network. Having those drives on the network allows me to see them from any device in my house.

So what I've encountered so far is this:
When I go to the Network Menu, I see my NAS (not used for media files), and my router's name. Presumably my router's name reflects anything that could be connected to my router.

I then selected my router, and it asked for my username and password. Note that I had already connected to my network via wifi, so I was somewhat surprised to be asked for both, especially since my network doesn't need a username. So I'm assuming that I had to use my admin logon details for the network to connect to the router via my Oppo.

After several unsuccessful attempts, I finally managed to get logged on. It then provided me with 3 folder names: Photos, Music, and Videos. I don't use those folders so I was somewhat surprised about that.

I selected Videos, and it then showed me 2 USB HDDs (the two I currently have connected to my router via a USB Hub). When I then selected the drive of my choice, it again asked me for a username and password.
I never set up any password for that drive, so I'm surprised it asked me. I tried all kinds of combinations (including nothing at all), without success, and now I basically cannot access that drive.

Could someone explain to me what's going on here, and how I can fix this issue?

As a note, I'm using a Mac at home, I don't have any windows based PCs.

Many thanks in advance!
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Secondly, when playing a dvd if I try to rewind the OPPO the image freezes on the screen but the counter continues to roll backwards as it should. The only way to get it to change is to turn everything off, then back on again.
DVDs only, not Blu-ray? There is a known problem with DVD rewind when DVD 24p is turned on. If you have that set, try turning it off. We expect this will be fixed in future firmware.

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I'm looking at possibly upgrading from a BDP93 in our theater to the 103 if it can handle .MKV rips stored on the local network any better.

I currently have all of our Blu Rays ripped to a Windows Home Server in .MKV format. Is there any way to initiate .MKV playback on the 103 via a command line, or http request? (not needing to browe the network shares). I have a Dune Player in our Living Room, and can start playback of any specif movie with a simple http request issues with a command like this...

http://dune-ip-address/cgi-bin/do?cm...folder/xxx.MKV

I've found I can also do the same thing from a windows PC with WGET. I can program these into the home automation system, and contrtol this way. Is something like this possible with the 103?

Ultimately I'd like to "push" the file with no trans-coding to the Oppo....

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^ The 103, unlike the 93, is also a DLNA Digital Media Renderer -- which means the DLNA server can "push" files to the 103, controlled by whatever UI you have to control the DLNA server.
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^ The 103, unlike the 93, is also a DLNA Digital Media Renderer -- which means the DLNA server can "push" files to the 103, controlled by whatever UI you have to control the DLNA server.
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Bob,

Thanks for the quick reply. That make sense. However, I still have a question as to what type of connection takes place when I issue a command to start playback over a network share with my Dune player? I don't need to have a DLNA server running...the network shared folder just needs to be avaiable. I think It is set up as SMB. Since (I think) the 103 can do SMB, is it possible to start file playback in the same fashion?

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Thanks for the quick reply. That make sense. However, I still have a question as to what type of connection takes place when I issue a command to start playback over a network share with my Dune player? I don't need to have a DLNA server running...the network shared folder just needs to be avaiable. I think It is set up as SMB. Since (I think) the 103 can do SMB, is it possible to start file playback in the same fashion?
I don't know how the Dune works. You'll need to use a Digital Media Controller to push files to the OPPO. See the FAQ: Is the player a Digital Media Renderer?

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Thanks for the quick reply. That make sense. However, I still have a question as to what type of connection takes place when I issue a command to start playback over a network share with my Dune player? I don't need to have a DLNA server running...the network shared folder just needs to be avaiable. I think It is set up as SMB. Since (I think) the 103 can do SMB, is it possible to start file playback in the same fashion?
Yes. Essentially that's what's being done when you control the player using OPPO's own MediaControl iOS and Android apps. They communicate with the player over the network and command the player to do stuff you could normally do using the player's built-in UI. However, OPPO has not formally published the network command protocols for doing that. I believe there have been reports of folks getting that stuff from OPPO by asking for it, but I've not been tracking that closely.

Note that this is still a "pull" playback operation. To truly "push" files to the player you need to use a DLNA server.
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Hi guys,
I need some help with mapping my USB HDDs on my network to my Oppo 103 player.
Basically my setup is this: I have a couple of USB HDDs connected to a USB hub. The USB Hub is connected to my Airport Extreme Router. I would like my 103 to play from those drives on the network. Having those drives on the network allows me to see them from any device in my house.

So what I've encountered so far is this:
When I go to the Network Menu, I see my NAS (not used for media files), and my router's name. Presumably my router's name reflects anything that could be connected to my router.

I then selected my router, and it asked for my username and password. Note that I had already connected to my network via wifi, so I was somewhat surprised to be asked for both, especially since my network doesn't need a username. So I'm assuming that I had to use my admin logon details for the network to connect to the router via my Oppo.

After several unsuccessful attempts, I finally managed to get logged on. It then provided me with 3 folder names: Photos, Music, and Videos. I don't use those folders so I was somewhat surprised about that.

I selected Videos, and it then showed me 2 USB HDDs (the two I currently have connected to my router via a USB Hub). When I then selected the drive of my choice, it again asked me for a username and password.
I never set up any password for that drive, so I'm surprised it asked me. I tried all kinds of combinations (including nothing at all), without success, and now I basically cannot access that drive.

Could someone explain to me what's going on here, and how I can fix this issue?

As a note, I'm using a Mac at home, I don't have any windows based PCs.

Many thanks in advance!
There's a few potential issues here, none of which are the player's fault. Your router has the job of presenting the shares, and that's where you should start looking for settings. If the drives were formatted using the MAC, there may be additional issues there. Suggest you look for solutions in the various forums for networking and MACs. As for the Oppo, if no user or password is required on the share, just enter past that password screen, leaving it blank.
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I realize .avi is a container, I should have mentioned the file I'm concerned with is xViD encoded video, so I wanted to know if the Oppo would process that and if it will look as good as if I played a DVD? If it does process it is it the exact same processing that a DVD would get?

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Was this an answer to my question regarding .avi being processed similar to the processing a DVD gets? If so I forgot to mention that the .avi has the video encoded with XviD. Would both the .avi and a DVD get the exact same processing? Would that both look very similar or would one be better than the other?

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I realize .avi is a container, I should have mentioned the file I'm concerned with is xViD encoded video, so I wanted to know if the Oppo would process that and if it will look as good as if I played a DVD? If it does process it is it the exact same processing that a DVD would get?

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Yes, you get the same processing from the player. I'm sure you know: whether your transcoded video looks like the original mpeg2 of the DVD is a different issue, not related to the player.

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Was this an answer to my question regarding .avi being processed similar to the processing a DVD gets? If so I forgot to mention that the .avi has the video encoded with XviD. Would both the .avi and a DVD get the exact same processing? Would that both look very similar or would one be better than the other?

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If the video content inside the AVI container is a supported format (see the FAQ -- link at the top of the first post of this thread), then it is processed. There are too many variables involved in how DVD content is created and how your AVI may have been created to predict which will look "better".
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Is it possible while playing CD/SACD with Oppo 103, also use an HDMI from another source (in this case, a laptop) to import visualization and display it on TV together at the same time?

Can Oppo and the laptop both be connected to a receiver (processor) via HDMI?

Can the laptop be connected to an Oppo 103 via HDMI?

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I must not be understanding this. If your receiver has two HDMI inputs then both player and laptop can be connected to it. Are you asking about some other configuration?

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Can Oppo and the laptop both be connected to a receiver (processor) via HDMI?

Can the laptop be connected to an Oppo 103 via HDMI?
A laptop can be connected to an HDMI Input of the 103, presuming it can be set to put out one of the standard, home theater, video formats (e.g., 1080p).

However, you can not view an HDMI Input while also playing other content (such as a CD).

Of course the OPPO and laptop can be connected to separate HDMI Inputs of an AVR. Some AVR's (not many, but some) allow you to hear audio from one HDMI source while viewing video from another. This is rare because it requires two separate HDMI video processing paths (since HDMI audio is embedded in HDMI video). Much more common is that you can play HDMI video from one source while listening to ANALOG audio (or Optical/Coax digital audio) from another source. Check your AVR Manual. Of course the OPPO could be your Analog/Optical/Coax audio source for that.

If you have both music (such as a CD rip) and photo media files on attached storage, you can set the OPPO to play the music while also playing a slide show of the photo files. See the Manual.
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:20 AM
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Quick ? As I don't have time to read all 577 pages:

I already own one 103 and am looking to buy another but will wait until they become equipped with the HDMI 2.0 spec parts. Any info on when this might occur?

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A laptop can be connected to an HDMI Input of the 103, presuming it can be set to put out one of the standard, home theater, video formats (e.g., 1080p).

However, you can not view an HDMI Input while also playing other content (such as a CD).

Of course the OPPO and laptop can be connected to separate HDMI Inputs of an AVR. Some AVR's (not many, but some) allow you to hear audio from one HDMI source while viewing video from another. This is rare because it requires two separate HDMI video processing paths (since HDMI audio is embedded in HDMI video). Much more common is that you can play HDMI video from one source while listening to ANALOG audio (or Optical/Coax digital audio) from another source. Check your AVR Manual. Of course the OPPO could be your Analog/Optical/Coax audio source for that.

If you have both music (such as a CD rip) and photo media files on attached storage, you can set the OPPO to play the music while also playing a slide show of the photo files. See the Manual.
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Good Afternoon Bob,
Yes, my laptop HDMI passes 1080p.
If Oppo is being used as a processor (analog outputs going to amp) and my laptop is connected to Oppo via HDMI, is it possible to pass the video to my TV from Oppo while Oppo is playing SACD?

I'd like to play my SACDs and high quality CD (MFSL) using Oppo and also use my laptop visualization at the same time.
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