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^ Thank you both especially Bob for the very detailed explanation. That makes perfect sense. I had completely misunderstood how 4:3/16:9 are handled on DVDs.

I wasn't going to use Source Direct for the time being anyways but I am planning to add a separate video processor in the near future mainly for calibration so that was my concern.

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Don't let it get to you.

D* HDMI out to Oppo HDMI in. Oppo HDMI 1 out to TV. Oppo HDMI 2 out to AVR BD in. It really is that easy. You will not get 3D by running one HDMI out of the Oppo to your AVR. If the split A/V connections don't get you 3D audio/video, then I don't believe your receiver is compatible.

The AVR HDMI out to TV HDMI in should allow you to see the on screen menu. You will find that by toggling through your TV inputs, not your AVR inputs.
The above configuration is what I tried last time, the dual HDMI Split A/V recommended by Oppo. Everything worked, it just seems a bit confusing due to changing inputs on at least two devices to get where I need for tv or BD playback. I now have it like this again and will stick with it.

You're correct, the single HDMI to AVR did not work for 3D. My Pioneer AVR is great for surround sound and music but apparently pre-3D. At least I see no mention of 3D in the manual.

I previously had an AVR OUT to tv HDMI IN but still could not get the AVR on screen display when selecting that input on the tv; said 'not available'. Don't know why that is, but I don't currently need to make any AVR on screen adjustments. The PQ and sound is excellent. Using a new Sony 65W850A LED and very happy with it. Thanks to you, and the many experienced users on the forum for helping out the less technically enthusiastic among us.
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Doesn't seem to be the disc. I put it in today again and had no problems.
Hopefully just a one time thing..
Sometimes a 'fly' (particle of long dust) can infiltrate the inside disc tray and land on the disc.
...Happened to me once or twice.

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It's possible the laser lens picked up a bit of dust that has since gotten dislodged during further playback or the act of changing the disc.
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Or that.

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QUESTION: Between the 103 and 103D, which one did Oppo sell the most units?

...I know, it's a tough question, but someone had to asked.

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I wasn't going to use Source Direct for the time being anyways but I am planning to add a separate video processor in the near future mainly for calibration
I don't understand this thinking. If you do a TV calibration, wouldn't you want it to go through exactly the same video device chain and settings that you will eventually WATCH through? Why would you do your calibration through a device chain and with device settings that eliminated everything you will actually be using when you actually do watch something?

My 103 HDMI-1 output goes through my Yamaha RX-V867 AVR (which supports 3D, so there's no concern), with all video processing in the 867 turned off. HDMI-1 output from the 867 goes to my Panny 65VT50, and HDMI-2 output from the 867 goes to my Sony 34XBR960 (which is another reason I route video from the 103 through the AVR, to support video delivery to two HDTVs). So all video processing is handled within the 103, and none is done by the AVR.

Also, my cable TV DVR HDMI output is sent through the rear HDMI input of the 103. This is another reason I want to use HDMI-1 output from the 103, because I want to be able to utilize the video cleanup/processing capability (and upconversion to 1080p) of the 103 for dealing with 720p/1080i HDTV input from cable. When playing 1080p BluRay discs or streaming 1080p Netflix, there's near-nothing that will happen using HDMI-1 output from the 103, and "near zero" is close enough to Source Direct for 1080p for me. But using the HDMI-1 output path for external cable HDMI input enhances HDTV substantially.

Anyway, when I had both of my TV's calibrated, I specifically had the signal generator's HDMI output go into the front HDMI input of the 103, leaving everything else in place: HDMI-1 out of the 103 into the AVR, HDMI-1 out of the AVR to the HDTVs. In other words I specifically wanted the calibration of the TVs to be done using exactly the same multi-device and signal path chain that would occur when normally watching HDTV or BD discs or Netflix streaming, as when the calibration signal generator was the source device. That allowed the calibration of each HDTV with the signal generator as the source to be such that all of the identical equipment and device settings would still be identical when true source was used... all flowing through the 103 and with HDMI-1 output.

Seems pointless to me to do a calibration through a different device/settings arrangement than what you will actually be watching true content through.
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I don't understand this thinking. If you do a TV calibration, wouldn't you want it to go through exactly the same video device chain and settings that you will eventually WATCH through? Why would you do your calibration through a device chain and with device settings that eliminated everything you will actually be using when you actually do watch something?
I meant for color calibration using a colorimeter and software with a video processor that has a color management system (CMS) like a Lumagen Radiance or Dvdo Duo.

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QUESTION: Between the 103 and 103D, which one did Oppo sell the most units?

...I know, it's a tough question, but someone had to asked.
I don't have actual numbers, but given how much longer the 103 has been on the market (and the lower price), I think it's safe to assume that they have sold many more 103's so far.
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Sometimes a 'fly' (particle of long dust) can infiltrate the inside disc tray and land on the disc.
...Happened to me once or twice.
Unfortunately I had another 2 lock ups last night watching World War Z at approximately 47 minutes and 93 minutes (The Django lock ups were at 15 and 30 minutes).
The screen froze and the disc was completely unresponsive. Had to power off and reload, again I had friends over . It played through those scenes the second time without a hitch.

I did watch Kick Ass 2 in between watching Django and WWZ with no problems.

I'm thinking maybe the Oppo is overheating?

Is there a way to clean the laser if their is dust?

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^ Give OPPO Tech Support a call and let them walk through the options with you. It's possible your player needs Warranty service. They can explain options for cleaning the laser lens as well.
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^ Give OPPO Tech Support a call and let them walk through the options with you. It's possible your player needs Warranty service. They can explain options for cleaning the laser lens as well.
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Ip manual setting

I am trying to use a manual ip setting and can not figure out how to enter a DNS # that is two digits and then a period etc with the remote. Can it be done. Thanks ron
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New 4K HVEC Encoding for Oppo Apps ?

I own the Oppo 103, was tempted to purchase the 103-D for 4K upscaling..... Now I'm wondering if I should just wait for the new HVEC H.265 encoding to be added by Oppo to its Netflix app, like the new 4K TV's are doing.... Thus, I'd use the Oppo player as my 4K streamer on my SONY 4K TV lacking the new HVEC encoding....

Do we know if or when Oppo would move forward with the new 4K encoding available now ?.... Or will they just wait for the 4K disc standards to be decided at the end of 2014 before they do this ?....

Don't wish to purchase the SONY 4K "X10" Player if I can get Oppo's version instead....

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Unfortunately I had another 2 lock ups last night watching World War Z at approximately 47 minutes and 93 minutes (The Django lock ups were at 15 and 30 minutes).
The screen froze and the disc was completely unresponsive. Had to power off and reload, again I had friends over . It played through those scenes the second time without a hitch.

I did watch Kick Ass 2 in between watching Django and WWZ with no problems.

I'm thinking maybe the Oppo is overheating?

Is there a way to clean the laser if their is dust?
Try this:

a) Unplug your 103's power cord and plug it back (from the wall, or your surge protector bar).

b) Unplug both HDMI cables from both ends (103 and projector and receiver) and plug them back.

* Your 103 is not overheating, and I highly doubt that you need to clean the laser lens.
It is most likely a minor shaking-hand issue. I had the same experience @ the beginning with my 103.
It did that for perhaps three or five times before it stabilized by itself. I did like you did; powered it off and back on again.

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I own the Oppo 103, was tempted to purchase the 103-D for 4K upscaling..... Now I'm wondering if I should just wait for the new HVEC H.265 encoding to be added by Oppo to its Netflix app, like the new 4K TV's are doing.... Thus, I'd use the Oppo player as my 4K streamer on my SONY 4K TV lacking the new HVEC encoding....

Do we know if or when Oppo would move forward with the new 4K encoding available now ?.... Or will they just wait for the 4K disc standards to be decided at the end of 2014 before they do this ?....

Don't wish to purchase the SONY 4K "X10" Player if I can get Oppo's version instead....

Thanks !
Several issues with your question. 1st, your 103 already does 4K scaling. 2nd, there's no reason to assume that Netflix will make 4K streams available to BD players any time soon. Certainly Oppo will be among the last to be bestowed with that gift. 3rd, H.265 decoding requires a complete hardware revision, as does 4K processing. Don't expect to see an all-new Oppo model for a year or more.
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I am trying to use a manual ip setting and can not figure out how to enter a DNS # that is two digits and then a period etc with the remote. Can it be done. Thanks ron
Try using zeros to pad the numbers out - so 10.1.1.6 becomes 010.001.001.006
(These ARE numbers, so the two IP addresses above are considered identical)
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That was easy

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Try this:

a) Unplug your 103's power cord and plug it back (from the wall, or your surge protector bar).

b) Unplug both HDMI cables from both ends (103 and projector and receiver) and plug them back.

* Your 103 is not overheating, and I highly doubt that you need to clean the laser lens.
It is most likely a minor shaking-hand issue. I had the same experience @ the beginning with my 103.
It did that for perhaps three or five times before it stabilized by itself. I did like you did; powered it off and back on again.
Thanks for the suggestions. Would be nice if it were just a minor hand-shake.
Seems strange that a hand-shake issue would start now? I've had it since December.

I Contacted tech support and they recommended cleaning the laser and instructed how to do it.
It was pretty easy but once I opened it up I didn't feel that was the issue either.
They also said to do this "Also clean the rubber spindle on the servo to make sure there is no hair or lint which can make the discs load off center."
It was unclear to me where this actually was but I removed the silver metal plate and cleaned the attached rubber parts.

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The rubber spindle is the small center platform on which the disc reposes. ...Underneath that silver metal plate that holds the disc clamp.

Using a can of compressed-gas duster and couple jet sprays on top of the spindle would do it.
But I doubt it is the cause of your issue. ...Still, no arm done doing it.

My previous suggestions (a and b) are just that, and even if you had your player since last December. Here too no harm done.
And takes only couple minutes.

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I Contacted tech support and they recommended cleaning the laser and instructed how to do it.
It was pretty easy but once I opened it up I didn't feel that was the issue either.
They also said to do this "Also clean the rubber spindle on the servo to make sure there is no hair or lint which can make the discs load off center."
It was unclear to me where this actually was but I removed the silver metal plate and cleaned the attached rubber parts.
FWIW, its also a good idea to clean the rails that the laser unit rides on. (while you're in there) These generally also have some kind of lube on them which you don't want to remove, so a dry q-tip is best. I doubt yours are in need of it though, being fairly new.
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FWIW, its also a good idea to clean the rails that the laser unit rides on. (while you're in there) These generally also have some kind of lube on them which you don't want to remove, so a dry q-tip is best. I doubt yours are in need of it though, being fairly new.
Thanks, I had a look at the rails and they still had grease on them.

I was rushed when I cleaned it but I should have taken a little more time to look for the spindle. Hopefully I don't have to go back in.

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Thanks, I had a look at the rails and they still had grease on them.

I was rushed when I cleaned it but I should have taken a little more time to look for the spindle. Hopefully I don't have to go back in.
Spindle wouldn't usually be suspect unless you play a lot of rental discs.
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^LITHIUM GREASE
From the experience I have had opening several players, I have never seen a problem with the grease,
aside from looking like there might be too much, but better to have too much than not enough I guess.
You can take a q-tip and swab the grease around a little more if it looks like it needs to be, especially up and down the rails,
making sure that the rails are nice and covered all over. (covered as in "ultra thin layer", not "gobs of grease")
You can also examine it to make sure there is nothing embedded in the grease like hair or other junk that can cause the mechanism to stutter or stick.
If you add more of your own grease, just make sure it's LITHIUM GREASE.
Like I said though, most times it won't even need attention.
The affects of lithium grease should last for many many years, decades even, so it's not a matter of it drying out,
you just want to make sure that it is being applied to the rails properly.

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Spindle wouldn't usually be suspect unless you play a lot of rental discs.
No rental discs at all. Just my own. I maybe watch 1 movie a week.
I did drop the one bluray on the carpet before watching it and that's when this all started so I thought that could have possibly been the cause.
Even though I did clean the disc before putting it in and thought it was free from any debris.

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Several issues with your question. 1st, your 103 already does 4K scaling. 2nd, there's no reason to assume that Netflix will make 4K streams available to BD players any time soon. Certainly Oppo will be among the last to be bestowed with that gift. 3rd, H.265 decoding requires a complete hardware revision, as does 4K processing. Don't expect to see an all-new Oppo model for a year or more.
Thanks !.... I had thought that only the 103-D model did 4K upscaling.... Happy to hear my 103 model does it as well.....

I would have guessed that Netflix would have wanted Oppo (and every other hardware manufacturer out there) to get the new 4K stream ASAP as it would expand their 4K footprint to yet another distributor....

Nonetheless, the new Spring 2014 4K TV's have the encoding so I don't understand why it would be more difficult for Oppo (as opposed to SONY, LG, Samsung, Vizio) to release a new BD player with H.265 this year.... If Netflix doesn't want to play 4K ball with Oppo, there's Vudu and CinemaNow that may...

And, as it has been published, the 4K disc standard will be finalized in 4th Quarter 2014, would it not make business sense for Oppo to quickly release a 4K BD player in Dec. 2014- Jan. 2015 ?...

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Thanks !.... I had thought that only the 103-D model did 4K upscaling.... Happy to hear my 103 model does it as well.....

I would have guessed that Netflix would have wanted Oppo (and every other hardware manufacturer out there) to get the new 4K stream ASAP as it would expand their 4K footprint to yet another distributor....

Nonetheless, the new Spring 2014 4K TV's have the encoding so I don't understand why it would be more difficult for Oppo (as opposed to SONY, LG, Samsung, Vizio) to release a new BD player with H.265 this year.... If Netflix doesn't want to play 4K ball with Oppo, there's Vudu and CinemaNow that may...

And, as it has been published, the 4K disc standard will be finalized in 4th Quarter 2014, would it not make business sense for Oppo to quickly release a 4K BD player in Dec. 2014- Jan. 2015 ?...
4K content from Netflix alone wouldn't justify the expense of a new player design. 4K blu-ray might, if there was actually any 4K discs available. That is by no means a certainty. But by all means make your wishes known to Oppo.
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Hi Mario315,

In case you missed it, here's a link to the dedicated What features would you like in your next Oppo BR - e.g. Oppo BDP-113 and BDP-115 topic

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In case you missed it, here's a link to the dedicated What features would you like in your next Oppo BR - e.g. Oppo BDP-113 and BDP-115 topic
Thank you for the thread referral, I will add it to my favorites.... There are many posts there already discussing 4K for future Oppo players, which was a good thing to read about...

Hopefully, Oppo's high-end market will drive them to lead in this category, as 4K is quite the high-end product and is now shipping a critical mass number of 4K TV's ....

Don't want to switch out my Oppo 103 for Sony/Samsung/LG 4K BD players ! (apparently being announced at CES 2015)
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Is it known that the Oppo is clipping the image above 90IRE when the contrast setting is set at its default value of 0 ?
The person who did my ISF calibration on my Panasonic P50GT60 Plasma is saying this.
To not have it clip the image the contrast setting on the Oppo should be set @ -2, according to him.

Any truth to that ?

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