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Sorry if this has all ready been asked. is there any way to turn off the speaker setup settings on the oppo? My Yamaha receiver has better settings
Those settings in the OPPO apply only to its Analog audio outputs. If you are using HDMI audio you can ignore those settings in the OPPO, as they will have no effect.

If using the Analog audio outputs, set all speakers to LARGE (Subwoofer ON), equidistant (any distance will do so long as they are all the same), and with 0dB Volume trim. Set DTS Neo:6 Mode to OFF. Set Speaker Configuration Down-Mix to 5.1 or 7.1 according to how many channels the Yamaha will accept.

That will bypass any processing on the Analog outputs (except down-mix to 5.1 if that's the max the Yamaha can accept).

The Subwoofer channel in this configuration will need +10dB boost external to the player, which your Yamaha will likely provide by default. Confirm levels using a calibration disc, such as the LPCM test tracks on AIX Audio Calibration, Blu-ray.
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105D as the main player at present, others used for Beta testing and comparisons.
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Thx Bob. May I ask you why the 105D over the 103D? ...TY
I'm a Beta Tester. The combo of a 105D and a 103 allows me to test more stuff.

Otherwise I'd use just a 103D with my Anthem Statement D2v.
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I'm a Beta Tester. The combo of a 105D and a 103 allows me to test more stuff.

Otherwise I'd use just a 103D with my Anthem Statement D2v.
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That, that was my direct question to you; as the player you are using in your own space @ home on a regular basis.

Now I got my answer; you are using the HDMI connections.

Here's another question for you Bob: Strictly for music listening, stereo and/or multichannel, which player are you using on a regular basis, still the Oppo 103D, or another(s)? ...And are you into multichannel, and/or stereo analog connections from any sources of yours and between it/them and your Anthem Statement D2v surround sound processor and video processor?
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^ I test as many different combos as I can in the course of my normal listening and viewing. Including Analog. That's the whole point. And to correct you, my primary player in my current configuration is the 105D as I said above, not a 103D. Again, this is an artifact of the Beta Testing.
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Yea, that's been my luck. I can't find the specs anywhere. My *guess* is it's something closer to 1vRMS, but that's unsubstantiated. If I remember tonight, I'll measure the pre-out and post back what they are.
I tested the outputs earlier. With the outputs' trim set to 0dB, I got 1.97vRMS from the main front analog pre-outs (didn't test all outputs; just the front left/right) using a 0dBfs, 1khz sine wave. The volume ran all the way up to 100/100 and there was no clipping indicator on the device I use for clipping detection. That said, at 95/100 you're already down to about 1.60v. I haven't taken the time to plot the voltage output to see if it's logarithmic, but I'd assume it is. But when you consider how far up in volume you have to go to reach full output, it's pretty obvious that you won't have a lot of 'gain' (if you will) at the Oppo.

I played around with the entire gain structure of my setup earlier and ultimately I'm looking at having to order a legitimate pre-amp. If not for the volume/floor noise, for the popping between sources I get. All of which was pretty much warned of by Oppo themselves. I read earlier on another site the Emo UMC-200 measured 4vRMS on it's pre-outs, unclipped, at full tilt. So, I may go that way. YMMV, of course, but I still wanted to share the quick results.

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Ok, so as I thought, SMB requires an external hard drive, and I continue to need DLNA to serve audio files from my PC.
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Setting up network shares in Windows is well beyond the scope of this thread, and its sometimes fraught with aggravations. But it does work, and once sorted out is easy to use. Windows help files are generally not helpful so you'll need to find info elsewhere, but there is some information available in Windows help about where to look for the settings. Just don't confuse Windows Media Player sharing with file sharing.
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I test as many different combos as I can in the course of my normal listening and viewing. Including Analog. That's the whole point. And to correct you, my primary player in my current configuration is the 105D as I said above, not a 103D. Again, this is an artifact of the Beta Testing.
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Ok, you confused me a little for a short time here.

Because even if you test all the Oppo players, my question was simply which one you use yourself when you are not testing and enjoying life outside of testing. ...Oppo 105D; thank you Bob.
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Question: On my USB stick I got a tune recorded with AAC stereo PCM 48kHz.
When I play it with my Oppo 103, and that I set my pre/pro to multichannel with Dolby Pro Locic IIz (or IIx) audio mode I only have the sound from my center channel and that's all. ...How come? ...Using the HDMI connection (HDMI2).

But I got other tunes too recorded with the same audio codec and the sound comes from all channels, just as it should.

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I tested the outputs earlier. With the outputs' trim set to 0dB, I got 1.97vRMS from the main front analog pre-outs (didn't test all outputs; just the front left/right) using a 0dBfs, 1khz sine wave. The volume ran all the way up to 100/100 and there was no clipping indicator on the device I use for clipping detection. That said, at 95/100 you're already down to about 1.60v. I haven't taken the time to plot the voltage output to see if it's logarithmic, but I'd assume it is. But when you consider how far up in volume you have to go to reach full output, it's pretty obvious that you won't have a lot of 'gain' (if you will) at the Oppo.

I played around with the entire gain structure of my setup earlier and ultimately I'm looking at having to order a legitimate pre-amp. If not for the volume/floor noise, for the popping between sources I get. All of which was pretty much warned of by Oppo themselves. I read earlier on another site the Emo UMC-200 measured 4vRMS on it's pre-outs, unclipped, at full tilt. So, I may go that way. YMMV, of course, but I still wanted to share the quick results.

Thanks for doing that voltage test on the rca outputs. It's darn close with the 105's rca voltage spec. With regards to your comment about "not having a lot of gain" on the Oppo, doesn't that depend on what the input sensitivity of the component (on its rca inputs) you're connecting to the Oppo? For instance, if you have an AVR or a power amp that you're directly connecting to the Oppo, and those components have an rca input sensitivity on the order of 500mV, then the Oppo has all the gain you would ever require (and then some) to effectively drive your downstream component to its fullest potential. I would surmise that the Oppo player would be able to drive most components easily with room to spare. Being on this and the 105 forum for over a year now, I have witnessed more owners who were using the Oppo players as preamps, and who couldn't raise the Oppo volume past 40-60 before clipping took place in their downstream component (power amp, AVR, etc) or before their ears started to hurt from the sound pressure. I've even seen some reports of even lower Oppo volumes than that for normal home listening. I haven't heard any reports of the Oppo *not* being able to drive a component, such as a power amp to its fullest wattage output.

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Keep in mind that the Analog output Volume adjustment step size is different for the 103/103D vs. the 105/105D. Also the XLR jacks of the 105/105D are, by design +6dB hotter.
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Bob, what is the "step size" of the 103's volume adjustment? I know the 105/105D's is .5 db per step.
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I got a tune recorded with ACC stereo PCM 48kHz.
What format is this?

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I have been considering purchasing an Oppo 103d but the line is 2 years old and I am hesitant due to the age of the line. does anyone have any idea when replacement line for the103 is due?
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Question: On my USB stick I got a tune recorded with ACC stereo PCM 48kHz.
When I play it with my Oppo 103, and that I set my pre/pro to multichannel with Dolby Pro Locic IIz (or IIx) audio mode I only have the sound from my center channel and that's all. ...How come? ...Using the HDMI connection (HDMI2).

But I got other tunes too recorded with the same audio codec and the sound comes from all channels, just as it should.
Unless the song is actually in mono, this is probably an artifact of the Dolby decoding. Just switch your pre/pro to stereo.

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I have been considering purchasing an Oppo 103d but the line is 2 years old and I am hesitant due to the age of the line. does anyone have any idea when replacement line for the103 is due?
The 103 is almost 2 years old, the 103d coming up on 1 year.

No one knows and OPPO doesn't usually give detailed future plans, but we've guessed (and didn't Customer Support confirm?) that it is going to be a while before a new player appears.

New standards are forthcoming: 4k Blu-ray discs, HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2. It's a bad time to be an early adopter of this stuff because not everything is going to be ready at once. And it's ugly when vendors push out partially-compliant products just to have something new on the shelves.

HDMI 2.0 is going to be a consumer nightmare. A lot of its features are optional, so read all the gear specs very carefully.

So, when? My totally speculative guess, without inside knowledge: late in 2015. That's when 4k Blu-ray may appear. The BDA says sooner, but they're on happy pills.

Note: we're having a lot of 103d discussion here; the proper thread is Official OPPO BDP-103D (Darbee Edition) Owner's Thread.

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Ok, you confused me a little for a short time here.

Because even if you test all the Oppo players, my question was simply which one you use yourself when you are not testing and enjoying life outside of testing. ...Oppo 105D; thank you Bob.
Yes, I know...
I think you may still be a bit confused... Beta testers don't necessarily get one of every model that Oppo has available for sale. So if you ask one of us what player we actually use for "every day" use versus which player we would purchase with our own money for "every day" use, you might get a different answer (and you did, in fact) because most of us don't have all 4 current models (103, 103D, 105, and 105D) in our possession. Since he normally uses the HDMI connection to his Anthem pre-pro, there would be no need for him to spend the extra money on a 105D as the 103D would suit his needs just fine. But for beta testing purposes, the 105D has more stuff (extra inputs, extra analog outputs) that can be tested.
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Bob, what is the "step size" of the 103's volume adjustment? I know the 105/105D's is .5 db per step.
I'll have to retract my earlier statement. I had forgotten that OPPO was able to refine this for the 103 player as well.

The Analog output Volume step size for ALL the 10x family of players is the same in current firmware: 0.5dB per Volume step, where Volume 100 (or Volume FIXED) represents full output and anything less than that is attenuated from full output. Volume 0 is a special case -- implemented as "Mute" -- including Muting the digital audio outputs.

Note that when using DSD-Direct-to-Analog Conversion, the 103 and 103D lose the ability to control Analog output Volume (along with all the other audio processing). You get Volume 100 regardless of how it is set. (But MUTE still functions.) The 105 and 105D *DO* have the ability to control Analog output Volume even when DSD is sent directly to the DACs.
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Those settings in the OPPO apply only to its Analog audio outputs. If you are using HDMI audio you can ignore those settings in the OPPO, as they will have no effect.

If using the Analog audio outputs, set all speakers to LARGE (Subwoofer ON), equidistant (any distance will do so long as they are all the same), and with 0dB Volume trim. Set DTS Neo:6 Mode to OFF. Set Speaker Configuration Down-Mix to 5.1 or 7.1 according to how many channels the Yamaha will accept.

That will bypass any processing on the Analog outputs (except down-mix to 5.1 if that's the max the Yamaha can accept).

The Subwoofer channel in this configuration will need +10dB boost external to the player, which your Yamaha will likely provide by default. Confirm levels using a calibration disc, such as the LPCM test tracks on AIX Audio Calibration, Blu-ray.
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Can you explain why the subwoofer channel would need +10dB boost?
So if using analog audio outputs, the subwoofer volume is always 10dB lower compared to the subwoofer volume over HDMI ?

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^ Adding Noise Reduction is your best bet. Understand that Noise Reduction can't "fix" the damage -- the information has already been lost, permanently. But it can make the visible effects of that less annoying.

Also check that you are sending out 1080p from the player.
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Putting noise reduction to max. did make the image visibly more pleasing
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Can you explain why the subwoofer channel would need +10dB boost?
So if using analog audio outputs, the subwoofer volume is always 10dB lower compared to the subwoofer volume over HDMI ?
Nope, it's down 10dB on HDMI as well.

The Subwoofer output is intended to handle LFE content. LFE exists as a place to record LOUD bass. To do that without clipping, it is recorded 10dB down. That means it has to be boosted +10dB external to the player to match the other speaker channels.

With HDMI audio that is handled as a standard function by your HDMI-capable AVR.

With Analog audio, there is also the possibility of "bass steering" from the other speaker channels into the subwoofer channel due to the action of the crossover. That requires additional attenuation of the Subwoofer output to preclude clipping.

So if a Crossover is active, the Subwoofer RCA Analog output needs +15dB boost to match the other RCA Analog outputs. With no Crossover active, it need +10dB boost. If passing the Analog Subwoofer signal through an AVR, odds are it will provide +10dB boost by default. But in any event you can accomplish the needed boost by adjusting the Volume knob on the subwoofer.

You can ignore all these details if you take the simple step of just checking levels with a calibration disc and an SPL meter -- adjusting the Volume knob on the Sub as needed. When the Sub SPL measures the same as the main speaker SPLs (for any given Volume), then you are good to go.
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Nope, it's down 10dB on HDMI as well.

The Subwoofer output is intended to handle LFE content. LFE exists as a place to record LOUD bass. To do that without clipping, it is recorded 10dB down. That means it has to be boosted +10dB external to the player to match the other speaker channels.

With HDMI audio that is handled as a standard function by your HDMI-capable AVR.

With Analog audio, there is also the possibility of "bass steering" from the other speaker channels into the subwoofer channel due to the action of the crossover. That requires additional attenuation of the Subwoofer output to preclude clipping.

So if a Crossover is active, the Subwoofer RCA Analog output needs +15dB boost to match the other RCA Analog outputs. With no Crossover active, it need +10dB boost. If passing the Analog Subwoofer signal through an AVR, odds are it will provide +10dB boost by default. But in any event you can accomplish the needed boost by adjusting the Volume knob on the subwoofer.
Bob I have the 103. I have some Issues with my audio and I plan to use the 7.1 analog outputs to connect to my pre/pro. Can you please give me suggestions on how to calibrate the system as I won't be able to with the pre/pro. I'm going to purchase a calibration disc from oppo and I have a SPL mete, but from there I don't Know what to do. Thanks
You can ignore all these details if you take the simple step of just checking levels with a calibration disc and an SPL meter -- adjusting the Volume knob on the Sub as needed. When the Sub SPL measures the same as the main speaker SPLs (for any given Volume), then you are good to go.
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I somehow put my question into the quote. what I am asking is the procedure to calibrate My system when connected via the 7.1 analog outputs from the 103 to a pre/pro
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Nope, it's down 10dB on HDMI as well.

The Subwoofer output is intended to handle LFE content. LFE exists as a place to record LOUD bass. To do that without clipping, it is recorded 10dB down. That means it has to be boosted +10dB external to the player to match the other speaker channels.

With HDMI audio that is handled as a standard function by your HDMI-capable AVR.

With Analog audio, there is also the possibility of "bass steering" from the other speaker channels into the subwoofer channel due to the action of the crossover. That requires additional attenuation of the Subwoofer output to preclude clipping.

So if a Crossover is active, the Subwoofer RCA Analog output needs +15dB boost to match the other RCA Analog outputs. With no Crossover active, it need +10dB boost. If passing the Analog Subwoofer signal through an AVR, odds are it will provide +10dB boost by default. But in any event you can accomplish the needed boost by adjusting the Volume knob on the subwoofer.

You can ignore all these details if you take the simple step of just checking levels with a calibration disc and an SPL meter -- adjusting the Volume knob on the Sub as needed. When the Sub SPL measures the same as the main speaker SPLs (for any given Volume), then you are good to go.
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Interesting stuff this, Thanks for explaining.

I have the Oppo HDMI Audio set to LPCM and I have the analog settings (small speakers, crossover freq, speaker levels and distances) correctly set in the Oppo for the use of Audio CD only.
For movies I just use HDMI.
So in this setup there is a possible difference in subwoofer level (analog vs. HDMI) of 5dB ? (+15dB boost on Analog compared to +10dB boost on HDMI)
I always felt there was a difference in subwoofer volume level between analog and HDMI (spl measurement confirmed this by the way), now I know why...

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^ Yes. Test both ways with a calibration disc to confirm. If your AVR has no level trims (or separate trims) for Analog audio pass through, a simple solution is to set the volume knob on the Sub according to what's needed for the Analog path. Then, for the HDMI path, use the Sub level trim in the AVR to compensate for any needed difference.
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I somehow put my question into the quote. what I am asking is the procedure to calibrate My system when connected via the 7.1 analog outputs from the 103 to a pre/pro
You have to decide whether the pre-pro or the OPPO will do your speaker configuration management. You only want to do that in one place. You disable such stuff in the other place. For example, if the pre-pro is going to do the work, then, in the OPPO, you set all speakers LARGE, equidistant (any distance will do so long as they are all set the same), and with 0dB volume trim. If the OPPO is going to do the work -- which is what I'll assume here -- then you make similar settings in the pre-pro to keep it from also trying to do it.

In the OPPO, set up your desire speaker configuration. In your case, that's a down-mix of 7.1, for example. Also enter your speaker distances -- measured from the front of the grill to your head position at center seating. You also need to decide whether you want the OPPO do to Crossover processing -- steering bass from your normal speakers to the subwoofer. If so, set those speakers to SMALL, otherwise to LARGE. From my post above you'll know that you need to make this choice *BEFORE* you go set your speaker levels. If you've decided to set any speakers SMALL, also select a Crossover frequency. 80Hz is a good, "one size fits all", choice until you have a chance to experiment.

Typically you will do main Volume adjustment for listening using the Volume knob on your pre-pro. In that case, set the Analog output volume of the OPPO to FIXED (= Volume 100). Be sure to set the volume knob of the pre-pro way down until you find out a comfortable setting for it.

OK, now play your calibration track. If you get the AIX disc from OPPO, use the 7.1 LPCM track from the set it offers.

Take your SPL meter and set it to "Slow" response and "C" weighting. If it has a range adjustment, set it to the range for 75dB -- a comfortably loud level that will give you accurate results without being too annoying while you do this.

In the OPPO, set ALL of the speaker Volume trims to 0dB.

Now play the test track and adjust main Volume on the pre-pro until the Left Front speaker measures 75dB SPL. When measuring this, hold the SPL meter so it points straight up towards the ceiling, held at arm's length and positioned at seated ear height at your center seating position. If your seat has a high back or is flush to a wall, move the SPL meter up a few inches or a foot closer to the TV to get it away from such blocking surfaces. You will use this exact same positioning of the SPL meter to measure all the speakers and Sub.

OK so now you have main Volume set so that the Left Front speaker produces 75dB SPL from that calibration track with 0dB speaker volume trim in the OPPO. That's one speaker done.

Now, without changing main volume, measure each of the other speakers in turn. Adjust their speaker volume trim in the OPPO so that they ALSO measure 75dB SPL.

When you get to the Subwoofer, do *NOT* use the speaker volume trim in the OPPO. Leave its Sub trim at 0dB, just like Left Front. Instead adjust the Sub output using the volume knob on the Sub itself. It helps if a friend can turn that while you stay with the meter.

Take another pass around the speakers with the calibration track. They should all measure the same SPL. Voila! That's done.

While you are at it, you can now play the Crossover test track on the AIX disc. That sends a test tone to Left Front that sweeps up and down in frequency from very low bass to mid-range. At the higher frequency end, all of the sound will be coming from Left Front. At the lower frequency end, all of the sound will be coming EITHER from Left Front or from your Sub depending on whether you have a Crossover enabled.

If everything is set up right, that tone should maintain constant volume throughout the frequency range (except for the very lowest bass which is more felt than heard). If you have no Crossover set, this will show you whether your speaker is OK producing that bass on its own. If you have Crossover set, this will show you how smoothly the Crossover transition is working. If the volume goes up and down across the sweep, you could try a different Crossover frequency. In many cases, taming bass output problems is best handled by repositioning speakers/sub. In bass frequencies, even inches matter in terms of how the speaker driver couples bass to the geometry of the room.

Note that if you decide to change from having a Crossover to no Crossover, you will need to revisit your speaker level settings to make sure the Sub output level is correct.
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No, not at all. You can use the built in Windows sharing functionality to share any drive / folder on any drive on your PC (whether it's an internal or external drive doesn't matter) to get the SMB shares you're looking for.

Thanks! actually this was easy to set up, and via SMB I now see all of my files, including the ones that oShare was overlooking for some reason.


I still get occasional Oppo glitches that I get occasionally when playing music files over my home network (the player locks up, will not respond to any remote or front panel keys other that PWR--once powered down and restarted, things generally will work without a hitch for the rest of the day, except once in a while I have to do a second powercycle immediately after the first one). But this can't be due to SMB, since the same thing happens with oShare and another DLNA server I have (Asset uPnP).

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What format is this?
I don't know exactly, I am no expert in that domain.
My Oppo 103 only shows AAC 2ch. 48kHz
=> [I made a small mistake: I indicated ACC when it actually is AAC]

* And I also have the same issue with other tunes showing MP3 2ch. 48kHz
- And my pre/pro shows PCM @ 48kHz with the lights on for both the L and R front channels.

<<>> The only way to get more than only my center speaker reproducing sound (with PLIIz or x engaged),
is to use the Mono Movie DSP audio mode. Then all my speakers are now playing. ...Also with Full Mono audio mode and All Chl Stereo DSP audio modes.
But the best is Mono Movie DSP audio mode.

It seems to me that my Oppo 103 is indicating 2ch MONO, and not Stereo; is that possible, because that is what seems the most logical explanation to me.

Some AAC 2ch and MP3 2ch @ 48kHz audio modes are mono, and others are stereo.
Is that possible?

Would be nice if was well indicated (delineated) by the Oppo 103's Info display, and also by my pre/pro's Info display.

What do you think?

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Thanks! actually this was easy to set up, and via SMB I now see all of my files, including the ones that oShare was overlooking for some reason.
If it was easy to setup, you must have done something wrong as it's supposed to be a right of passage to struggle with getting SMB shares working properly.
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Bob, what is the "step size" of the 103's volume adjustment?
I know the 105/105D's is .5 db per step.
In 1dB steps. *** Correction: It has been refined to 0.5dB steps (firmware update, for the 103).

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Unless the song is actually in mono, this is probably an artifact of the Dolby decoding. Just switch your pre/pro to stereo.
Yes it works in Stereo mode (mono stereo it seems), but I want it all around from Dolby Pro Logic IIx and IIz. ...And it does not work as the sound is only coming from my center channel speaker.

PLII probably needs at least stereo to be able to process, I guess. If it is two-channel (mono) audio, then you'll get sound only from one channel, the center one. ...And nothing @ all from the other four, or six, or, eight, or ten other channels.

So, no good with PLII, PLIIx, PLIIz, all dts audio mode flavors, and all THX audio mode flavors.

...Only with some DSP audio modes: Full Mono, All Ch Stereo, and Mono Movie. ...And nothing else.

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I think you may still be a bit confused... Beta testers don't necessarily get one of every model that Oppo has available for sale. So if you ask one of us what player we actually use for "every day" use versus which player we would purchase with our own money for "every day" use, you might get a different answer (and you did, in fact) because most of us don't have all 4 current models (103, 103D, 105, and 105D) in our possession. Since he normally uses the HDMI connection to his Anthem pre-pro, there would be no need for him to spend the extra money on a 105D as the 103D would suit his needs just fine. But for beta testing purposes, the 105D has more stuff (extra inputs, extra analog outputs) that can be tested.
So, Bob purchased the 103D for himself?

...Or is he using it for his own personal use and pleasure @ home with his wife and kids and friends?

And of course I assume that it is connected to his Anthem Statement D2v, through the HDMI connection, and that Anthem pre/pro is also being constantly tested.

My conclusion: Bob is always testing for his own personal pleasure, and ours.
So it don't matter what he's using or not, it's all his, and ours to gain from.
What a guy! ...Bob
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I'll have to retract my earlier statement. I had forgotten that OPPO was able to refine this for the 103 player as well.

The Analog output Volume step size for ALL the 10x family of players is the same in current firmware: 0.5dB per Volume step, where Volume 100 (or Volume FIXED) represents full output and anything less than that is attenuated from full output. Volume 0 is a special case -- implemented as "Mute" -- including Muting the digital audio outputs.

Note that when using DSD-Direct-to-Analog Conversion, the 103 and 103D lose the ability to control Analog output Volume (along with all the other audio processing). You get Volume 100 regardless of how it is set. (But MUTE still functions.) The 105 and 105D *DO* have the ability to control Analog output Volume even when DSD is sent directly to the DACs.
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Jeez, I needed to be updated as well. ...Refinement; we all can use some of that in our lives, for sure.
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