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post #18631 of 21477 Old 10-14-2014, 12:45 PM
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Hmmm? I have a Denon receiver but I don't know if it has an MHL port. Thanks from a fellow New Mexican!
MHL port adoption has been slow, but many TVs and AVRs built since 2013 have one. The slow adoption is likely the main reason that Roku went with the HDMI version.

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The ROKU Stick as sold by OPPO is an OEM bundle, which means it does not come with ROKU's own remote control. When used with the OPPO it responds to the OPPO's own remote control so no need for the one from ROKU. But if you plug it into something else, something that is *NOT* a ROKU ready device -- i.e., configured to expect the Stick and do things like remote control integration -- then you will miss not having the ROKU's own remote.
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Not entirely accurate there Bob. It works great on my new Yamaha AVR's MHL port, and the Yamaha remote also controls it. No mention in the Yamaha specs of being "Roku ready".
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Not entirely accurate there Bob. It works great on my new Yamaha AVR's MHL port, and the Yamaha remote also controls it. No mention in the Yamaha specs of being "Roku ready".
That's interesting. I also didn't realize that any other OEM had incorporated Roku remote commands into their device remote.
I wonder if they sent Oppo a thank you card? Who knows though, maybe it was Roku's brainiacs who thought the idea up.

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That's interesting. I also didn't realize that any other OEM had incorporated Roku remote commands into their device remote.
I wonder if they sent Oppo a thank you card? Who knows though, maybe it was Roku's brainiacs who thought the idea up.
I may well be all wet here, but my assumption has been that the MHL spec includes some basic remote command codes - which Roku would be using. Seems to me like the whole MHL idea would depend on that.
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I may well be all wet here, but my assumption has been that the MHL spec includes some basic remote command codes - which Roku would be using. Seems to me like the whole MHL idea would depend on that.
The MHL spec, going all the way back to v1, requires support for CEC, which is the mechanism by which the "host" remote can control the inserted device. Let's face it, the buttons on the Roku remotes are pretty basic. LURDS plus "Return", "Home", "Pause", "Play", "Cue Fwd", and "Cue Backward". About the only gotcha is the "*" key.

These should fall well within all but the most basic CEC implementations. I would expect most MHL implementations to do a decent job with that.

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The MHL spec, going all the way back to v1, requires support for CEC, which is the mechanism by which the "host" remote can control the inserted device. Let's face it, the buttons on the Roku remotes are pretty basic. LURDS plus "Return", "Home", "Pause", "Play", "Cue Fwd", and "Cue Backward". About the only gotcha is the "*" key.

These should fall well within all but the most basic CEC implementations. I would expect most MHL implementations to do a decent job with that.
Makes perfect sense. Although I have CEC turned off in all devices and the MHL stick still works.
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https://www.roku.com/roku-ready/certified-products

I may try it in my Denon, even though its not on the list
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Makes perfect sense. Although I have CEC turned off in all devices and the MHL stick still works.
I don't think you can turn CEC off on an MHL connection. It just would not be a configuration that would make sense. You might be able to turn CEC off on that input/port - but I would think/HOPE that this would mean "turn off CEC for Normal, non-MHL HDMI devices".

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DSOTM?? Get the Blu Ray or the SACD!
Lol! I do own the DSOTM on SACD and The Wall on vinyl. It's just that I have 2TB hard disk plugged to the Oppo via USB and usually listen to music through it.
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Lol! I do own the DSOTM on SACD and The Wall on vinyl. It's just that I have 2TB hard disk plugged to the Oppo via USB and usually listen to music through it.
BUT! The BD has the original quad production by Alan Parsons of both albums, plus the new 5.1 version, along with a 2.0 version. DSOTM, and WYWH
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Quick question since I've been away from the thread for ages: I haven't been updating my firmware on my player because I've been enjoying sacd-r backups for some time now. I'm curious with the newest firmware can DSD files be streamed over the network? Or do they need to be played from attached storage? I have a WD Mycloud NAS connected to my router, and the BDP-103 is hard wired to the router as well. Would my oppo be able to play the DSF/DFF files off my NAS?
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I'm curious with the newest firmware can DSD files be streamed over the network? Or do they need to be played from attached storage? I have a WD Mycloud NAS connected to my router, and the BDP-103 is hard wired to the router as well. Would my oppo be able to play the DSF/DFF files off my NAS?
Yes, DSD (.dsf and .dff) files can be streamed via an SMB or UPnP network connection. All of mine are stored on a Synology NAS and I navigate to them using the Oppo's GUI
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Can I connect both HDMI 1 and 2 to my AVR? I'm wanting to connect HDMI 2 for DSD .

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Can I connect both HDMI 1 and 2 to my AVR? I'm wanting to connect HDMI 2 for DSD .
I can give you a definite "maybe". The problem is, some AVRs keep their non-selected HDMI Inputs "live". That would mean you have two HDMI paths trying to handshake into that single device (the AVR). Depending on the AVR's HDMI implementation, that can cause problems -- the typical symptom being endless HDMI retries because Copy Protection is not happy.

A typical culprit here is HDMI CEC (remote control over the HDMI cable) which keeps non-selected sockets live so they can detect when something turns on at the other end of the cable. Sometimes you can simply turn that off in the AVR.

If it handshakes without problems with either that HDMI 1 or HDMI 2 input selected in the AVR then you should be OK. The OPPO has no problem with both being connected.

By the way, if you've been considering an upgrade, the newer 103D and 105D add the ability to transmit HDMI DSD audio on the HDMI 1 output as well.
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I can give you a definite "maybe". The problem is, some AVRs keep their non-selected HDMI Inputs "live". That would mean you have two HDMI paths trying to handshake into that single device (the AVR). Depending on the AVR's HDMI implementation, that can cause problems -- the typical symptom being endless HDMI retries because Copy Protection is not happy.

A typical culprit here is HDMI CEC (remote control over the HDMI cable) which keeps non-selected sockets live so they can detect when something turns on at the other end of the cable. Sometimes you can simply turn that off in the AVR.

If it handshakes without problems with either that HDMI 1 or HDMI 2 input selected in the AVR then you should be OK. The OPPO has no problem with both being connected.

By the way, if you've been considering an upgrade, the newer 103D and 105D add the ability to transmit HDMI DSD audio on the HDMI 1 output as well.
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Thanks for your response. I had guessed that is the answer I would get. I've only had the 103 for about a month plus already own a Darbee as the reason for inquiring about this possibility. I'll try it later and post my findings.

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Thanks for your response. I had guessed that is the answer I would get. I've only had the 103 for about a month plus already own a Darbee as the reason for inquiring about this possibility. I'll try it later and post my findings.
It works! No issues at all!

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^ You need to use a 103D or 105D with the latest firmware (not a 103 or 105) and you need a 4K TV with an HDMI 2.0 input that also supports YCbCr 4:2:0 data format for input. I forget whether 4:2:0 is mandatory for HDMI 2.0 inputs. Cable HDMI 1 from the OPPO to the TV.
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My Question: ????????
I have the EU Version. I hope this great 60hz feature comes soon maybe for us EU Oppo103 User!?
Why only for the Darbee Edition?
i have the Darbee Darblet seperate in use.
What are the differences technical in the 103`s Editions?

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^ I responded to your post in the other thread.

The 103D and 105D have newer HDMI hardware than the 103 and 105. As far as I know, this feature can not happen on the 103 or 105.
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^ I responded to your post in the other thread.

The 103D and 105D have newer HDMI hardware than the 103 and 105. As far as I know, this feature can not happen on the 103 or 105.
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Thanks for your answer!

That means: i stay with 4k 30hz only.
Or i sell my EU Oppo and buy the Darbee Edition.

No.... i stay with my EU Oppo HDMI- Old - Hdmi Hardware-Player.
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The new MediaControl app needs the 0827B Public Beta firmware -- not out just yet as an Official release. (Public Beta firmware is not offered for network install.)

You install the Public Beta firmware by downloading it from the OPPO support page and installing it via a USB stick. Instructions and the download link are here:

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-b...-77-0827B.aspx

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One nice thing I noticed after installing this latest beta is that there is no delay after pausing a movie anymore. There used to be a second or 2 delay after pausing a movie and someone on this forum said that the disc had to spin up again after a pause by design. There is no longer this pause and the movie immediately starts to play with no delay. Me likey

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Hey,
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I'm playing DLNA content from my home network through the Oppo 103, and I noticed something odd on some foreign language stuff. I listen to a lot of world music, so I have some CDs from Israel that actually contain Hebrew language metadata, as well as a few things in Greek I've picked up, to go with my normal English language rock, pop, etc. I burned the content to a hard drive using JRiver, and have the media center set to push the content through my network.


When I go to my Network and look at files in the tree structure, the Hebrew language artist and track names show up correctly as they do on my PC, written from right to left. However, if I select a track, the titles for the "Now Playing" track shown on the screen are written from left to right. It's amusing if you read and speak the language (which I do, with limited fluency conversationally), but I wonder if it's an Oppo thing or a DLNA thing.

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Hey,
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I'm playing DLNA content from my home network through the Oppo 103, and I noticed something odd on some foreign language stuff. I listen to a lot of world music, so I have some CDs from Israel that actually contain Hebrew language metadata, as well as a few things in Greek I've picked up, to go with my normal English language rock, pop, etc. I burned the content to a hard drive using JRiver, and have the media center set to push the content through my network.


When I go to my Network and look at files in the tree structure, the Hebrew language artist and track names show up correctly as they do on my PC, written from right to left. However, if I select a track, the titles for the "Now Playing" track shown on the screen are written from left to right. It's amusing if you read and speak the language (which I do, with limited fluency conversationally), but I wonder if it's an Oppo thing or a DLNA thing.
Does the same thing happen if you play the tracks via a SMB share or on a locally attached storage device? If so, then it's most likely an Oppo issue. I'd suggest contacting Oppo and offer to provide them with a sample file to test with.
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The Username and Password would be the account used to log into your computer. However, this function is still not working properly as we are using SMB 2.0 and this is not working correctly even in the latest version of Yosemite.

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So I guess no one with OSX is using the 103 through SAMBA, the email came today from OPPO, they were prompt(same day Sunday), I may try one of the apps to change smb on the Imac. Thanks for the help guys. nron
I've been successfully using SMBup with OSX 10.8, 9 and now 10. To the developer's credit, the application installs all of the necessary components. Setup takes a little patience, but the documentation for such is good.

I installed Yosemite last night, hoping that SMB3 would eliminate the occasional need to restart SMBup and provide a more robust connection (a restart is required on my system when the computer is restarted). I initially saw that SMBup continued to work fine, but not wanting to leave well enough alone, I uninstalled it and attempted to connect the 103 to my Mini running Yosemite. Unfortunately, I ran into the same authentication problem I saw with SMB2 that's mentioned above. After futzing with this a while, I reinstalled SMbup and it's running fine.

I recommend exploring this option, as it's the only way I'm aware to connect the 103 to an OSX machine. There are a number of things that seem not to work as they should, but the volumes and files they contain are accessible. The shares are also accessible using the remote iPad app.

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OPPO has a Knowledge Database for allowing SMB sharing with MacOSX, but due to the intensity of the configuration, I doubt they want to have many customers attempt to use SMBUp. Easier to just tell them to switch to DLNA DMP or DMR.
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I need some help here. I just received my Oppo BDP 103D player and hooked it up and I have picture problems. here is what I have and what its doing.
Projector - JVC dla 500r which has 4k & 3D etc etc.
Receiver - Anthom mxr710 which has everything as well
Now how I connected it, was I ran from the oppo player HDMI 1 to the receiver and the receiver HDMI is ran to the projector.
My problem is when I put in a blue-ray movie, and with the Oppo player set on Auto it either takes the movie to 4k or 1080p and it starts playing the movie but then the picture cuts in & out & in & out & even goes streaky colors and stuff. the sound is good just picture cutting in & out. And when I put in a 3D movie I have sound but no picture at all. When I went into the menu on the oppo and turned the auto off and put it on 1080I everything works, except 3D but now I'm losing picture quality. Is it possible the processor in the oppo player is fighting with the processor in the Anthom receiver and causing this? or did I just hook it up wrong?
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I need some help here. I just received my Oppo BDP 103D player and hooked it up and I have picture problems. here is what I have and what its doing.
Projector - JVC dla 500r which has 4k & 3D etc etc.
Receiver - Anthom mxr710 which has everything as well
Now how I connected it, was I ran from the oppo player HDMI 1 to the receiver and the receiver HDMI is ran to the projector.
My problem is when I put in a blue-ray movie, and with the Oppo player set on Auto it either takes the movie to 4k or 1080p and it starts playing the movie but then the picture cuts in & out & in & out & even goes streaky colors and stuff. the sound is good just picture cutting in & out. And when I put in a 3D movie I have sound but no picture at all. When I went into the menu on the oppo and turned the auto off and put it on 1080I everything works, except 3D but now I'm losing picture quality. Is it possible the processor in the oppo player is fighting with the processor in the Anthom receiver and causing this? or did I just hook it up wrong?
Swap in a different HDMI cable between AVR and PJ, then between Oppo and AVR. See which one of them is causing the problem.
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^ As I recall, only one input of the MRX 710 works with 4K video. Make sure you are using that one. Check if your JVC has a restriction like this as well.

I forget whether you also have to have the MRX 710 set to "THROUGH" when passing 4K or 3D video through it. Check the Manual.
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Hi, guys. I am new to the forum. I am an owner of OPPO BDP 103 EU. Recently I bought Iron Maiden's album Dance of death on dvd-audio. When I play the dvd in my laptop it says there are three audio streams: dts, dd and stereo. When I play it in the oppo I can only choose between 5.1 surround and stereo. When I choose the 5.1 stream I can see on the display of my AVR Denon 4520 multi channel in. There is no dts or dd option (Inspite of that the sound is awesome). Why is that? Anything else on the disc plays fine.
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Hi, guys. I am new to the forum. I am an owner of OPPO BDP 103 EU. Recently I bought Iron Maiden's album Dance of death on dvd-audio. When I play the dvd in my laptop it says there are three audio streams: dts, dd and stereo. When I play it in the oppo I can only choose between 5.1 surround and stereo. When I choose the 5.1 stream I can see on the display of my AVR Denon 4520 multi channel in. There is no dts or dd option (Inspite of that the sound is awesome). Why is that? Anything else on the disc plays fine.
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Hi, guys. I am new to the forum. I am an owner of OPPO BDP 103 EU. Recently I bought Iron Maiden's album Dance of death on dvd-audio. When I play the dvd in my laptop it says there are three audio streams: dts, dd and stereo. When I play it in the oppo I can only choose between 5.1 surround and stereo. When I choose the 5.1 stream I can see on the display of my AVR Denon 4520 multi channel in. There is no dts or dd option (Inspite of that the sound is awesome). Why is that? Anything else on the disc plays fine.
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Your laptop is only able to play the DVD-Video content on the disc. The Oppo is playing the DVD-Audio content, which typically has only high-red stereo and high-res 5.1 audio. The Oppo outputs LPCM from DVD-A discs.
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Hi, guys. I am new to the forum. I am an owner of OPPO BDP 103 EU. Recently I bought Iron Maiden's album Dance of death on dvd-audio. When I play the dvd in my laptop it says there are three audio streams: dts, dd and stereo. When I play it in the oppo I can only choose between 5.1 surround and stereo. When I choose the 5.1 stream I can see on the display of my AVR Denon 4520 multi channel in. There is no dts or dd option (Inspite of that the sound is awesome). Why is that? Anything else on the disc plays fine.
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Your English is pretty darn good. Don't worry about it

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Your laptop is only able to play the DVD-Video content on the disc. The Oppo is playing the DVD-Audio content, which typically has only high-red stereo and high-res 5.1 audio. The Oppo outputs LPCM from DVD-A discs.
rdGrimes is dead right - but just to expand on this a bit with some background that will make his answer easier to understand...

DTS and DD both provide a way to cram a 5.1 soundtrack into the space available on a DVD-Video that is carrying the video for a movie around on it. The video for a movie takes up a lot of space on a DVD, and there is only a little bit of room left of the audio. They are part of the DVD-Video spec, and when you do surround sound on a normal DVD-Video, it is usually encoded using one or the other of these codecs. These codecs represent a trade-off between space and quality. The designers did a great job, and the quality still is pretty darn high...but if you don't NEED to make the trade-off...

The catch is that when you have no video (are at least very little of it), you have plenty of space to include all 6 channels of surround without having to "cram" anything. You can place all 6 channels on the disc with no compression and very little processing ... and that is the difference between your experience of playing on the PC (which is playing the "dvd-video" part of the disc - and hence the DTS/DD for surround) vs. on the Oppo (which is basically playing the DVD-Audio part of the disc, and hence does not NEED DTS/DD for surround).

You should note that there are later generations of DTS and Dolby, mostly for blu-ray, that take advantage of the space available and result in much-less of a trade-off between source quality and space.

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