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You were given sound advice. You may either take it or move on. I personally use the extension because of where everything is located.
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Calm down.

Wifi throughput is affected by lots of things including interference, such as from other Wifi transmitters near by (perhaps even your other players). It is not unusual that moving the Wifi a few inches can make a difference which is why OPPO includes the extender -- so you don't have to reposition the whole player.

The fact that it worked yesterday, but not today until you shifted the antenna, suggests either interference or a configuration problem, such as two devices on your home network being assigned the same IP address.

Now that it is working, I suggest you leave it this way. If the problem returns we can try to figure out what's interfering.
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I actually have the 105, which is more than twice the price of the 103. I use the done extension and am very happy with the wireless connection. I think everyone who reads this thread wishes you a Merry Christmas. Just return it and quit whining. There are thousands of extremely satisfied OPPO customers who enjoy their products. Go to Walmart and get a $39.95 Blu-ray player that you will be happy with. Have a nice day.
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The answer to why 50$ players don't have a WiFi dongle and the Oppo does is rather simple. The Oppo being a well made player is full metal outfitted which makes internal antennas impossible. This all metal case keeps all undesired waves out of the player, it shields it from external contamination. 50$ players don't care about shielding much and thus include the antena inside the thing since its all plastic anyway. It's just physics: shielding the Oppo to keep unwanted interference from the outside also keeps WiFi waves impossible to penetrate. I prefer my player to be well shielded and well built even if it means having to have the dongle outside. If you care more for shielding and quality and don't mind a dongle you buy an Oppo. If built quality and shielding is lower in priority than having an internal antenna you buy something else. No player is perfect. We choose according to our priorities.

Also, the reason the dongle sometimes works better using the extension is that the extension puts the doogle vertical instead of horizontal. Positioning is certainly a factor too.

I can't be more happier with my Oppo personnaly.
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I actually have the 105, which is more than twice the price of the 103. I use the done extension and am very happy with the wireless connection. I think everyone who reads this thread wishes you a Merry Christmas. Just return it and quit whining. There are thousands of extremely satisfied OPPO customers who enjoy their products. Go to Walmart and get a $39.95 Blu-ray player that you will be happy with. Have a nice day.
I enjoy the product. Apparently, you have a reading comprehension issue because I clearly said I was thrilled with the player overall, but that this issue was unnecessary and should have been thought out more. The wireless feels like an afterthought which I suppose it is because the selling point is the video and audio processing capabilities of the player which, I must mention, I am enjoying. I am keeping the player, but as a consumer, I have the right to voice my opinion and displeasure with a product should I see fit. You're right that I have the option to return it. That goes without saying.

So please, quit with your condescending and judgmental attitude. I don't appreciate being talked down to either.

Happy Holidays.
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Wifi 101:

The killer of Wifi is interference. Interference causes network packets to be missed, which causes resends, which clobbers throughput.

Wifi uses radio frequencies that are also used by cordless house phones, things like alarm systems, and home automation. Microwave ovens also leak these frequencies when they are running.

And of course another Wifi operating nearby also may be using these frequencies. Perhaps from a neighbor's Wifi. Putting you own Wifi transmitters close together may also cause problems.

Connection Strength is not a measure of whether interference is present or not.

However, the higher you can get the Connection Strength, the less likely you'll be impacted by interference. The key purpose of the extender OPPO provides is to allow you to reposition the Wifi dongle to increase Connection Strength. Try to get that to at least 70. The higher, the better.

Wifi systems operate on a range of "channels". Typically your base station will pick a channel automatically -- when it is turned on -- which it thinks has the least interference. The problems with that are (1) the channel does not change if other nearby Wifi setups turn on afterwards, and (2) the interference check happens where the base station is located -- not where a client device like the OPPO is located.

If you are in an environment like an apartment building with lots of neighboring Wifi setups, you can often get better througput by picking the channel yourself. This is a configuration setting in the Wifi base station. All the client devices (like the OPPO) will automatically adjust to whichever channel the base is using. You can see the channel in use in the OPPO in Setup > Network Setup > Connection Info.

(There are apps you can use to find out what channels are in use by neighbor Wifis if you want to get fancy.)

Generally speaking, the higher channel numbers are less likely to have been picked automatically.

NOTE: The OPPO Wifi operates on the 2.4GHz band, so it is the channel choices there (typically 1 through 11) which work. Higher channel choices for the 5GHz band (40 through 153) don't apply -- if you happen to have a dual-band Wifi base station.

Changing channels can also be a big help if you are getting interference from a cordless phone setup or microwave oven.

If you set up a VUDU account (free until you actually buy or rent content) you can use the Network Speed Test in the VUDU app (My VUDU > Settings & info) to see real throughput. This includes the speed actually achieved by your Wifi (given whatever interference is present), the speed of your Internet service, congestion on the Internet, and congestion into the VUDU servers.

A high number is good, but also see if it bounces around a lot. Random drops down to low speeds may very well mean interference is clobbering your Wifi connection.
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I know this must've been asked before, but I couldn't find a search phrase that could easily find the results I'm looking for: how many people connect their receiver's HDMI output to the Oppo's input so that all devices can take advantage of its video processing? Are there any potential issues with this type of setup?
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How would you accomplish that without creating a signal loop?
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I know this must've been asked before, but I couldn't find a search phrase that could easily find the results I'm looking for: how many people connect their receiver's HDMI output to the Oppo's input so that all devices can take advantage of its video processing? Are there any potential issues with this type of setup?
I am sure some people do this but I don't. The tests I've conducted with my Yamaha RX-v777bt vs. Oppo 103 HDMI 1 out, which has the better Marvel Qdeo processor (although the processor on the HDMI 2 output ain't shabby), shows that I am not gaining much in upconversion quality using the Oppo over the Yamaha.

I have Oppo's HDMI 1 going straight to my Epson 1080P projector, by-passing the Yamaha completely. I have tried the HDMI 2 going through the Yamaha which is doing the conversion of all standard disks up to the ability of the projector, which is 1080p (the 777 can upconvert to 4K even, but of course it won't if the projector will not accept it). Basically, the difference is so slight between the Yamaha's ability and the Oppo, that I just send everything through the receiver and use the Oppo's HDMI 1 as a dedicated blu ray/3D output. Others might see things differently and of course it all depends on the the receiver you have and it's ability.
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Deleted a couple of posts.

Take it offline if you're going to bicker. Otherwise you will be removed from this thread.

Thanks,

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How would you accomplish that without creating a signal loop?
To clarify, what I meant was Receiver->Oppo->TV
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How are you going to run the Oppo? HDMI 2 out to receiver?
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