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I have a 720P MP4 video file that I'd like to play and upscale / up convert to 1080P using the 103's Marvell Qdeo video processing - which I understand only happens through HDMI Out 1.
Will I get the same PQ going through the USB input as through the HDMI Inputs?
In other words is one source input better than the other?
The end result will likely be different depending on what you're using to send your video file through one of the HDMI inputs. Is it a computer running media player software or some other media streamer (such as a WDTV) and outputting 1080p? If so, then the Oppo won't be scaling the image to 1080p because it's already 1080p at that point. If you play the file via a storage device attached to a USB input or through SMB network sharing, then the Oppo will both decode the MP4 file and perform the scaling to 1080p for you. Another option is to use DLNA, just make sure your DLNA server isn't configured to do any conversion to the file before passing it along to the Oppo.
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I'm having trouble with my 103. It's playing all my blurays normally with exception to one, Batman Begins. The disc is flawless so I don't think it is damaged. When I put it in, the oppo says it's a data disc and to access it through the "movie" tab. When I enter into that it comes up with a bunch of menus and things but nowhere to play the movie. It's an old movie so I don't know how the firmware couldn't be compatible with it but I checked my firmware anyway and it's up to date. I've searched around already with no answers. Anyone have any ideas? If nothing works I'll contact oppo tomorrow to try and figure it out.
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I've had the exact same problem with "Pearl Harbor". I would love to hear of a solution, particularly if the problem is existing with other discs.
Failure to detect that the disc is a Blu-ray disc is a type of disc read error. One possibility is that the laser lens in the player has picked up a piece of dust or is filmed from stuff floating in the air and needs to be cleaned, but if the problem is only happening on one disc the odds are much greater that it is just a faulty disc. The tolerances in Blu-ray are tight enough that manufacturing defects may not be visible to the eye.

Try this: Open the Tray, gently wiggle the disc around in place in its spot in the Tray, which will give it a slightly different position when loading, and try loading the disc again. If the disc read problem is not too severe, this may be all that's needed for the player to get past it.

If possible, exchange the disc or try someone else's copy of the disc to confirm the problem really is just with your current copy of the disc.
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Had the same happening with one Bluray disc from star trek the next generation. There was not much wrong on the disc (at least visible to the eye) but after replacing it with a new copy the problem was solved.

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The end result will likely be different depending on what you're using to send your video file through one of the HDMI inputs. Is it a computer running media player software or some other media streamer (such as a WDTV) and outputting 1080p? If so, then the Oppo won't be scaling the image to 1080p because it's already 1080p at that point. If you play the file via a storage device attached to a USB input or through SMB network sharing, then the Oppo will both decode the MP4 file and perform the scaling to 1080p for you. Another option is to use DLNA, just make sure your DLNA server isn't configured to do any conversion to the file before passing it along to the Oppo.
Thanks! - got it - will let the Oppo do the decoding and upscaling. Oppo tech support just emailed me and confirmed that:
"best that you play the file directly from the USB drive and have the player process and scale the image, rather than take an image from an external HDMI source and have the player scale the image."

Just curious - if I do play this file through an external media player (Dune HD Smart H1) - which I understand has it own upscaling - though not as good as Oppo's - is there a way to "disable" the upscaling in the external device and let Oppo do it (better) instead?
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Just curious - if I do play this file through an external media player (Dune HD Smart H1) - which I understand has it own upscaling - though not as good as Oppo's - is there a way to "disable" the upscaling in the external device and let Oppo do it (better) instead?
The Dune H1 has user-definable output resolution, but not "native" or "source direct", so you'd have to change the output setting for everything you play. But note: the Dune can act as an SMB server and if you turn that feature on, the Oppo can access files directly on any volume that the Dune is connected to. It will show up in the Oppo Network screen as "Dune" and no password is required. Obviously they both need to be on the same network.
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Since I have a similar setup, can you expand on this?
Wow, I lot has changed since I posted that. I upgraded to a ST60 and it was the ST50 that was softening the image. The ST60 uses the Mediatek chip which is much better than the Panasonic chip in the ST50. As a result I sold my Darbee and while I admit it had benefits financially it made sense at the time. The comments I made were in regard to the stuttering image that was present in my set up at the time. When played through the ST50 there was no stuttering. In regards to the Oppo subsequent firmware updates fixed all of the stuttering etc... issues I was having and I absolutely love the picture I get through either HDMI 1 or 2. I have no functional issues with the Oppo now. If you have the ST50 you will see a softening of the image especially with 720p sources that even the Oppo can't help.
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The better your display the better your Oppo 103's picture rendition.
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I have a question for those that are using the Auto Resume feature. If a disc is in the player does it start playing from the resumed point without pushing play when the player is powered up? I could have sworn before the latest FW update that when you powered up the player you had to hit play for the disc to start playback from the resumed point. It really irritates me now that when I power up my 103 and the 105D that the disc starts playing automatically.

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I have a question for those that are using the Auto Resume feature. If a disc is in the player does it start playing from the resumed point without pushing play when the player is powered up? I could have sworn before the latest FW update that when you powered up the player you had to hit play for the disc to start playback from the resumed point. It really irritates me now that when I power up my 103 and the 105D that the disc starts playing automatically.

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Turn off AutoPlay in the Setup menu, and when you turn on the player, you will be at the Oppo home screen with nothing playing. The disc won't start playing until you either press PLAY or highlight the disc icon and press ENTER, at which point the disc will auto-resume unless you cancel that by immediately pressing STOP.

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Turn off AutoPlay in the Setup menu, and when you turn on the player, you will be at the Oppo home screen with nothing playing. The disc won't start playing until you either press PLAY or highlight the disc icon and press ENTER, at which point the disc will auto-resume unless you cancel that by immediately pressing STOP.
Auto Play is off in both the 103 and when the 105D was in my system. I just powered up the 103 and it went right to play and resumed playback with the SACD that was playing yesterday.

Edit: I just went into the setup menu of the 103 and both Auto Play and Auto Resume were off . But the 103 started playing when I initially powered it up this morning with both of those auto features disabled. Very strange. So I went back into the setup menu and enabled Auto Resume and now it is working properly. I powered the 103 off and on several times and the disc did not start playing till I hit playback. Very strange indeed!

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Auto Play is off in both the 103 and when the 105D was in my system. I just powered up the 103 and it went right to play and resumed playback with the SACD that was playing yesterday.

Edit: I just went into the setup menu of the 103 and both Auto Play and Auto Resume were off . But the 103 started playing when I initially powered it up this morning with both of those auto features disabled. Very strange. So I went back into the setup menu and enabled Auto Resume and now it is working properly. I powered the 103 off and on several times and the disc did not start playing till I hit playback. Very strange indeed!

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So, I've been operating in complete idiot mode with one aspect of my 103's operation since I've gotten it: I have the analog subwoofer output connected directly to my buttkicker's amp, and it never occurred to me that changing the volume control on my receiver obviously wouldn't effect the buttkicker's output. Duhhhh. I watch movies primarily at the same volume level, within a ~4db range, so that's my excuse for not catching it until now.

Anyway, to remedy this situation, I'm going to change the output volume of my Oppo to variable. Am I correct in assuming that the Oppo's volume control only affects the analog outputs?

My second question is, does anyone know how much each increment of the Oppo's volume control corresponds to in terms of dB output? It sure would be nice if there was an option of having the volume control method match the ones used by AVRs i.e. starting with negative values, going up to 0 as reference level.
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So, I've been operating in complete idiot mode with one aspect of my 103's operation since I've gotten it: I have the analog subwoofer output connected directly to my buttkicker's amp, and it never occurred to me that changing the volume control on my receiver obviously wouldn't effect the buttkicker's output. Duhhhh. I watch movies primarily at the same volume level, within a ~4db range, so that's my excuse for not catching it until now.

Anyway, to remedy this situation, I'm going to change the output volume of my Oppo to variable. Am I correct in assuming that the Oppo's volume control only affects the analog outputs?

My second question is, does anyone know how much each increment of the Oppo's volume control corresponds to in terms of dB output? It sure would be nice if there was an option of having the volume control method match the ones used by AVRs i.e. starting with negative values, going up to 0 as reference level.
Yes the volume control of the player only operates the analog volume.
Each notch on the volume scale should be 1/2 db. So from -0- to 100 is a total of 50 db.

Why don't you just use the sub output of your receiver to control the transducers?
If you already have a sub connected to it, you could just use a passive rca splitter to
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Thanks for the info; I like being able to independently adjust the delay/distance of the buttkicker, as well as set a lower crossover (i.e. low-pass filter) than the sub.
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Hi guys,
I have a quick question regarding OPPO 103 Lineaer PCM conversion. I don't onw Oppo 103 yet but I think now I have a very good reason to based on the answer to my question.

I have been using PS3 (slim version) for a while and had it set to Linear PCM. Recently I bought miniDSP DL which provides Dirac room correction. It requires that the signal be sent as LPCM. So far so good.

Yesterday, I played Transformer Dark Of The Moon and it sounded very dull.I thought it was Dirac causing it. So I took it out of chain and connected PS3 straight to my avr (Marantz SR 6007). After Audyssey calibration, played movie and same issue. Now comes the interesting part. I went into PS3 sound settings and changed it to Bit-Stream from Linear PCM. Play movie and wooow day and night difference.

Even though ps3 shows support for DOLBY TRUE HD in Lineaer PCM, selecting Linear PCM brings a big difference in sound getting loss. Since I need to pass Linear PCM for Dirac to work, my only other option left is OPPO 103 only if it supports Dolby True HD and DTS HD in Linear PCM?

So my question, Does Oppo 103 support Dolby True HD + DTS HD in Lienar PCM mode? If yes then can someone please do a test by playing a movie that is in Dolby True HD (preferably Transformer Dark Of The Moon) with both modes to see if there is a noticeable difference b/w the two.

Thx a bunch.

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So my question, Does Oppo 103 support Dolby True HD + DTS HD in Lienar PCM mode?
Yes, it does. Works for all supported audio codecs.
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Yes, it does. Works for all supported audio codecs.
And also on pretty much any other standalone blu-ray player.
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And also on pretty much any other standalone blu-ray player.
So does ps3. It shows it in the menu as well. But when I played Transformer the dark moon in Linear PCM, there is a huge difference in sound. Its so obvious that one doesn't even have to pay attention to know the difference.

Have you tested any movie that supports Dolby True HD in both format and noticed any difference?
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I'm not sure if the 103 will be any better. When I send LPCM to my Sony receiver, the sound is definitely "duller" than when sending PCM. I think a few other 103 owners here have reported something similar, and I don't recall seeing a resolution or explanation.
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So does ps3. It shows it in the menu as well. But when I played Transformer the dark moon in Linear PCM, there is a huge difference in sound. Its so obvious that one doesn't even have to pay attention to know the difference.

Have you tested any movie that supports Dolby True HD in both format and noticed any difference?
Pretty much any AVR or pre-pro will produce slightly different levels when LPCM is input vs bitstream. Some bitstream codecs also contain DRC and dialog boost instructions that can also effect results. That said, the differences are generally small, although even slight differences in levels can be perceived as changes in depth or quality of the audio. Any accurate comparison requires level matching, since some processors can produce level differences up to 5db or even more. Also good to note that not all processors will correctly apply the needed 10db boost to the LFE channel on LPCM input, or may also treat it differently with respect to DSP modes, EQ, etc.

Bottom line is that there's no appreciable difference in the sound of LPCM vs bitstream output from the player, but whatever is on the receiving end can/may treat the two differently.

With respect to your PS3, questions are best asked in the appropriate forum for that device.
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I'm not sure if the 103 will be any better. When I send LPCM to my Sony receiver, the sound is definitely "duller" than when sending PCM. I think a few other 103 owners here have reported something similar, and I don't recall seeing a resolution or explanation.
Thx for clarification.

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Pretty much any AVR or pre-pro will produce slightly different levels when LPCM is input vs bitstream. Some bitstream codecs also contain DRC and dialog boost instructions that can also effect results. That said, the differences are generally small, although even slight differences in levels can be perceived as changes in depth or quality of the audio. Any accurate comparison requires level matching, since some processors can produce level differences up to 5db or even more. Also good to note that not all processors will correctly apply the needed 10db boost to the LFE channel on LPCM input, or may also treat it differently with respect to DSP modes, EQ, etc.

Bottom line is that there's no appreciable difference in the sound of LPCM vs bitstream output from the player, but whatever is on the receiving end can/may treat the two differently.

With respect to your PS3, questions are best asked in the appropriate forum for that device.
Its not a slight difference. Its a big difference. I did feel that LPCM was less louder. I turned volumn 5db higher on my avr. Only dialog got louder and all other sound was dull.

Based on what you are saying rdgrimes, one is better of staying away from LPCM and let avr do the job?

Please note that this is not a PS3 related question. I did notice the issue arrising from PS3 but not asking for any opinion or solution for PS3 but was wondeing if OPPO solves the issue (just to be clear).
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Based on what you are saying rdgrimes, one is better of staying away from LPCM and let avr do the job?
No, that's not what I meant. Here there's virtually no difference.
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Hello, I am having a lot of issues all of sudden with playback of SACD's and they are freezing, seemingly randomly, and require me to power cycle the unit (sometimes more than once) to get the discs to start playing. When it freezes there is no access from any buttons from both the remote and the unit itself. I have recently started using the Media Control App from a Samsung tablet, would this contribute to this issue in any way? I was using my iPhone prior to that and never had any issues.

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Hello, I am having a lot of issues all of sudden with playback of SACD's and they are freezing, seemingly randomly, and require me to power cycle the unit (sometimes more than once) to get the discs to start playing. When it freezes there is no access from any buttons from both the remote and the unit itself. I have recently started using the Media Control App from a Samsung tablet, would this contribute to this issue in any way? I was using my iPhone prior to that and never had any issues.
Try not using the app and see if the problem goes away. I assume you are meaning actual SACD discs. You should contact Oppo support if the app is causing this. Support for audio discs in the app is a fairly new feature. But on the surface this sounds like an issue with loss of contact from the tablet to the player.
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Hello, I am having a lot of issues all of sudden with playback of SACD's and they are freezing, seemingly randomly, and require me to power cycle the unit (sometimes more than once) to get the discs to start playing. When it freezes there is no access from any buttons from both the remote and the unit itself. I have recently started using the Media Control App from a Samsung tablet, would this contribute to this issue in any way? I was using my iPhone prior to that and never had any issues.
Does it happen if you use just the player remote or the buttons on the front panel?

It happens only with SACDs, not with any other type of disc?

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Try not using the app and see if the problem goes away. I assume you are meaning actual SACD discs. You should contact Oppo support if the app is causing this. Support for audio discs in the app is a fairly new feature. But on the surface this sounds like an issue with loss of contact from the tablet to the player.
Yeah I just ditched the tablet, it was a free gift and sitting around so thought it would be easier than using my iPhone. I am hoping that this is the cause...will report back at the end of day.

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Does it happen if you use just the player remote or the buttons on the front panel?

It happens only with SACDs, not with any other type of disc?

-Bill
Yeah only seems to happen with the SACD's, I tried a couple of DVD's and they worked fine, not that it makes conclusive. I am going to try the rest of the day with the remote/buttons on the front.

Also sent a note off to Oppo support.

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Try not using the app and see if the problem goes away. I assume you are meaning actual SACD discs. You should contact Oppo support if the app is causing this. Support for audio discs in the app is a fairly new feature. But on the surface this sounds like an issue with loss of contact from the tablet to the player.
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Does it happen if you use just the player remote or the buttons on the front panel?

It happens only with SACDs, not with any other type of disc?

-Bill
Interesting enough I had no issues the rest of the day using the device and I went back to using my iPhone and absolutely no problems at all. There must be something with the Android app...glad it was a freebie and it can go back in the drawer!

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Interesting enough I had no issues the rest of the day using the device and I went back to using my iPhone and absolutely no problems at all. There must be something with the Android app...glad it was a freebie and it can go back in the drawer!
More likely an issue with the wireless in the tablet. The app and the Oppo do not respond well to interruptions in network connections.
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More likely an issue with the wireless in the tablet. The app and the Oppo do not respond well to interruptions in network connections.
Possibly a hardware/software issue in the tablet. I tried with my iPad as well and it works flawlessly too. When I connect the Samsung again it starts to freeze up again.

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