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post #20851 of 21486 Old 03-29-2015, 04:15 PM
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I don't know if this has been asked or not.. Tried to search but couldn't find it. If you run hdmi in from another source will the OPPO let you vertically stretch that image for CIH ? Like say from my HTPC? Thanks
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I've never had a DVD that played sound out of sync before. Seems on all my older players, the sound ALWAYS matched up with the video.

On my new Oppo, the sound is really out of sync. I found the setting to change the sync on it, but it took forever to find a setting that looked right based on trying to match dialog with mouth motions. Is there a better way to do this? Is this something particular to my setup? I'm splitting the audio to the second HDMI to my older AVR (a pioneer Elite).

I just watched The Hobbit Battle of the Five Armies and the lips of the actors never really matched up with any of the half dozen or more settings I tried to use.

Help!?!?!
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^ If I understand you correctly, you have HDMI 1 from the OPPO going direct to the Display for video and HDMI 2 from the OPPO going to the AVR for audio.

Is audio "Late" -- lips move before you hear the sound? If so, you are probably suffering from the "helpful AVR" problem. Your AVR doesn't know it has been bypassed for video and so it is applying a chunk of audio delay "to be helpful" -- i.e., to compensate for its own, internal video processing time.

To fix this, you need to convince the AVR it isn't processing video. Either disable its HDMI output or set the AVR to "pass through" for HDMI video.

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Audio and video are in sync at the outputs of the OPPO (with the A/V Sync setting at 0). If you can't figure out how to get the AVR to stop altering the audio timing then you have two choices. First, run video through the AVR as well. This is the normal way to wire things, and you'd only avoid it if your older AVR can't handle the type of video you want to send to the Display -- e.g., 3D video.

Second, get a calibration disc and use that to adjust the A/V Sync setting. Using a movie disc to try to adjust sync is a bad idea because movies usually have inherent sync error, and that can vary scene by scene. If you adjust things properly with the calibration disc, the inherent error in movies will likely be too small to notice.

The sync chart I recommend is on Disney's "WOW World of Wonder", Blu-ray, calibration disc. When using it, sneak up on the correct A/V Sync setting from both sides (audio set too early and audio set too late) until you get the hang of reading the result consistently.
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Here's a workaround that you can try. Works for me....

The later versions of the Oppo have the ability to act as a UPNP player that XMBC can see.

1) From your XBMC machine, use the "play using" UPNP functionality and select the Oppo player on the network. MKV should start to play throgh the Oppo.
2) Once you get this working set the Oppo UPNP device as the XBMC default player (sear how to do this if needed)
3) Connect the XBMC to the Oppo HDMI input. You will then be viewing the nice front end of XBMC though the Oppo input.
4) When you start playback of a movie, it starts it on the Oppo vs the XBMC machine.
5) Here's the cool part...the Oppo will automatically switch inputs to play the network movie that you just selected via XBMC.
Wow that's neat trick, anyone knows if something similar can be done with Jriver as a front end?

Most of my movies are ISO in my HTPC, with little under 60 in Mkv which aren't an issue for play back as the iso tend to be.

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^ Yes.
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Thanks.. Guess I'll be picking one of these up for my new CIH setup. Make life a lot easier.
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The oppo Bdp 103 is a a fantastic versatile bd player and it has extended the life of my Denon 5803.
The only feature that I would love to see is a front full range and subwoofer feature.
As it is now I have to crossover my fronts and sides at 40 while they go much lower.
I'm not sure if this could be a firmware fix or not but it would be nice.
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The oppo Bdp 103 is a a fantastic versatile bd player and it has extended the life of my Denon 5803.
The only feature that I would love to see is a front full range and subwoofer feature.
As it is now I have to crossover my fronts and sides at 40 while they go much lower.
I'm not sure if this could be a firmware fix or not but it would be nice.
Although your fronts and sides go lower than 40Hz, your AVR is busting its gut trying to get that low. Better to save some of its gas for your speakers and raise the xo freq. Let your sub (which is designed for low freqs) pull the weight.

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The oppo Bdp 103 is a a fantastic versatile bd player and it has extended the life of my Denon 5803.
The only feature that I would love to see is a front full range and subwoofer feature.
As it is now I have to crossover my fronts and sides at 40 while they go much lower.
I'm not sure if this could be a firmware fix or not but it would be nice.
Maybe I am not sure exactly what you are trying to say,
but you should be able to set your speakers to LARGE (full range),
and then use the crossover setting for the other speakers if that is what you want to do.
Whatever speakers are set to LARGE will bypass the crossover and thus be full range frequency.

...or do you mean that you want the sub frequencies to also play through your front speakers?
It's usually not necessary if you already have a capable subwoofer,
and even if your speakers go very low, they would need to go exceptionally low, like below 20Hz.
Otherwise you may damage the speakers sending LFE frequencies that are too low for the speakers to handle.

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Although your fronts and sides go lower than 40Hz, your AVR is busting its gut trying to get that low. Better to save some of its gas for your speakers and raise the xo freq. Let your sub (which is designed for low freqs) pull the weight.
I should have been more specific about my system.
My fronts are 4 ways that have usable output at 20hz and by 25hz they are kicking. I'm biamping my fronts so my 5803 only sees them on the preouts.
My fronts go to 60hz, my sides go to 28hz, and the rears go to 50hz.
The sides are also sitting on self powered 10 inch velodynes that go to 25hz or so.
The subs are A D S ms3 and ms4 in front and are run of the sub preout.
The 5803 enables main+lfe for the front which I have tuned for music, but when I play a movie I want more thump so I just turn up the sub channel, to get the full output of the front subs.
I can use the 5803 analog inputs with dsp but then I'm doing the digital to analog to digital to analog thing, not sure how it would sound.
I use the analog outputs of the oppo to take advantage of the new surround formats and when you set the fronts to large and subwoofer on, the sub does not work.
If I set the fronts to small and sub on all works but crosses over at 40hz being the lowest.
I'm currently trying some other options but over all if this is my only complaint this is one heck of a bd player.
Oh and I think the picture it throws on bd is great also.
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Although your fronts and sides go lower than 40Hz, your AVR is busting its gut trying to get that low. Better to save some of its gas for your speakers and raise the xo freq. Let your sub (which is designed for low freqs) pull the weight.
I should have been more specific about my system.
My fronts are 4 ways that have usable output at 20hz and by 25hz they are kicking. I'm biamping my fronts so my 5803 only sees them on the preouts.
My fronts go to 60hz, my sides go to 28hz, and the rears go to 50hz.
The sides are also sitting on self powered 10 inch velodynes that go to 25hz or so.
The subs are A D S ms3 and ms4 in front and are run of the sub preout.
The 5803 enables main+lfe for the front which I have tuned for music, but when I play a movie I want more thump so I just turn up the sub channel, to get the full output of the front subs.
I can use the 5803 analog inputs with dsp but then I'm doing the digital to analog to digital to analog thing, not sure how it would sound.
I use the analog outputs of the oppo to take advantage of the new surround formats and when you set the fronts to large and subwoofer on, the sub does not work.
If I set the fronts to small and sub on all works but crosses over at 40hz being the lowest.
I'm currently trying some other options but over all if this is my only complaint this is one heck of a bd player.
Oh and I think the picture it throws on bd is great also.
I might be wrong, but I don't think the OPPO can do LFE+main (double bass).
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I might be wrong, but I don't think the OPPO can do LFE+main (double bass).
The 105 and 105D can be set to do this when playing stereo content (not including DSD-Direct-to-Analog Conversion during DSD content playback, and not including playback of content coming in on the Asynchronous USB DAC Input) by using the Dedicated Stereo Analog outputs and also the Subwoofer output (only) from the multi-channel Analog output set. See the 2nd configuration described in this post from OPPO's Knowledge Base:

http://www.oppodigital.com/KnowledgeBase.aspx?KBID=15

Note that there is no LFE channel in Stereo content, so all that's being doubled here is the bass already in the L/R channels -- i.e., it is being output to the L/R speakers and also to the Sub.
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Wow that's neat trick, anyone knows if something similar can be done with Jriver as a front end?

Most of my movies are ISO in my HTPC, with little under 60 in Mkv which aren't an issue for play back as the iso tend to be.

Thanks

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Wow! This is great! I have all my bd's ripped to an external hard and wondered how I might use the Oppo. The only question I have is how to set the "play with Oppo" as default? I do not see how to do that part but I can select it before playing a disc.
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I might be wrong, but I don't think the OPPO can do LFE+main (double bass).
The 105 and 105D can be set to do this when playing stereo content (not including DSD-Direct-to-Analog Conversion during DSD content playback, and not including playback of content coming in on the Asynchronous USB DAC Input) by using the Dedicated Stereo Analog outputs and also the Subwoofer output (only) from the multi-channel Analog output set. See the 2nd configuration described in this post from OPPO's Knowledge Base:

http://www.oppodigital.com/KnowledgeBase.aspx?KBID=15

Note that there is no LFE channel in Stereo content, so all that's being doubled here is the bass already in the L/R channels -- i.e., it is being output to the L/R speakers and also to the Sub.
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Since the oppo is like a mini receiver, can it do this? :

DuneHD media player-->(video with DTSHDMA 7.1 audio via HDMI)-->Oppo-->(decode audio to 7.1 LPCM)-->AVR-->Speakers + Display
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Since the oppo is like a mini receiver, can it do this? :

DuneHD media player-->(video with DTSHDMA 7.1 audio via HDMI)-->Oppo-->(decode audio to 7.1 LPCM)-->AVR-->Speakers + Display
No, the HDMI input will not accept DTS-HD MA. It will accept LPCM 7.1 directly. See the FAQ: What are the specs of the digital inputs?

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Oppo bdp-103 newbie question

I have two current issues with my OPPO player, My OPPO Home menu will only display at 1080i, and when watching Direct TV, my OPPO BDP 103 currently only outputs 1080i. If I change my OPPO resolution to AUTO or 1080P for TV Viewing, my screen goes blank. I am thinking I should be able to at least display the Home menu in any resolution I want. Any feedback will be greatful. Thanks.
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^ There are two likely possibilities. Either your TV (or AVR) only works up to 1080i, or your HDMI cabling is not "high speed", and thus the handshake is failing at 1080p.

The HDMI cabling issue might be as simple as reseating the plugs along the entire signal path.
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No, the HDMI input will not accept DTS-HD MA. It will accept LPCM 7.1 directly. See the FAQ: What are the specs of the digital inputs?

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Ok. How about this?
DuneHD media player-->(video with lossy DTS/DD 5.1 audio bitstream via HDMI)-->Oppo-->(decode audio to 5.1 LPCM)-->AVR-->Speakers + Display

I'm just worried if the Oppo can decode (from external HDMI input) and output multichannel lpcm via HDMI because there are many HDMI restrictions which gives me headache. Example:
DuneHD media player-->(video with lossy DTS/DD 5.1 audio bitstream via HDMI)-->AVR1-->(decode audio to 5.1 LPCM)-->AVR2
The setup above is impossible because of HDMI restriction. AVR1 will only passthrough the DTS/DD via HDMI.
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Ok. How about this?
DuneHD media player-->(video with lossy DTS/DD 5.1 audio bitstream via HDMI)-->Oppo-->(decode audio to 5.1 LPCM)-->AVR-->Speakers + Display
That should work on the OPPO. I can't speak as to your multiple AVR issues.

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Bob,

Thanks for your response, So there is a way for my OPPO Home screen to display at 1080p? I will check/reseat my HDMI cables, you stated it could be the receiver too, My current set up is YAMAHA RX V677 Receiver, Sony VPL HW40 and OPPO BDP 103, The projector outputs 1080p. Direct TV display output is 1080i even though my Direct TV genie box has a 1080p feature on it. On my old JVC RS20, I was able to change resolution from 1080i signal to 1080p with OPPO BDP 103. Thanks again.
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Bob,

Thanks for your response, So there is a way for my OPPO Home screen to display at 1080p? I will check/reseat my HDMI cables, you stated it could be the receiver too, My current set up is YAMAHA RX V677 Receiver, Sony VPL HW40 and OPPO BDP 103, The projector outputs 1080p. Direct TV display output is 1080i even though my Direct TV genie box has a 1080p feature on it. On my old JVC RS20, I was able to change resolution from 1080i signal to 1080p with OPPO BDP 103. Thanks again.
On DirecTV, the only 1080p output available is from PPV.
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Quick question for all the experts out there:

I have a standalone Darbee unit currently, and a BDP-93. Looking to move up to a 103. Does it make sense to get the 103D since I already have a Darbee?


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I have a standalone Darbee unit currently, and a BDP-93. Looking to move up to a 103. Does it make sense to get the 103D since I already have a Darbee?
Not if you are going to continue to use the Darblet. The video results will be the same as the 103D when using the Darblet with another player.

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Not if you are going to continue to use the Darblet. The video results will be the same as the 103D when using the Darblet with another player.

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Thanks for the info. Quick question (only asking to be 100% sure before I pull the trigger)...

the FAQ mentions that the 103D uses the "Silicon Image VRS ClearView video processor"...what (other than Darbee-ness related things) does that add?

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Thanks for the info. Quick question (only asking to be 100% sure before I pull the trigger)...

the FAQ mentions that the 103D uses the "Silicon Image VRS ClearView video processor"...what (other than Darbee-ness related things) does that add?

Thanks again,

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For video processors, the 93 and 103 use QDEO and the 103D has both VRS and Darbee. For all of these the video processing is available on HDMI1. HDMI2 used Mediatek processing only.

Apart from Darbee, the video processing is most important for DVDs and lower quality sources. Not so important for Blu-ray.

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For video processors, the 93 and 103 use QDEO and the 103D has both VRS and Darbee. For all of these the video processing is available on HDMI1. HDMI2 used Mediatek processing only.

Apart from Darbee, the video processing is most important for DVDs and lower quality sources. Not so important for Blu-ray.

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So that implies there is an additional benefit by purchasing the 103D, other than the Darbee processing (which I have already with my separate Darbee unit). It seems the idea is the VRS processor is better than the QDEO? (correct me if I'm wrong!


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So that implies there is an additional benefit by purchasing the 103D, other than the Darbee processing (which I have already with my separate Darbee unit). It seems the idea is the VRS processor is better than the QDEO? (correct me if I'm wrong!
Different. QDEO has more sophisticated noise reduction and sharpening, but you need that only for low-quality sources.

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Different. QDEO has more sophisticated noise reduction and sharpening, but you need that only for low-quality sources.

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So I ended up purchasing a 103D. Bill, in your opinion, for the low-quality sources that benefit from the QDEO as you mentioned, would my existing 93 player be able to deal with them as well as a non-darbee 103?

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So I ended up purchasing a 103D. Bill, in your opinion, for the low-quality sources that benefit from the QDEO as you mentioned, would my existing 93 player be able to deal with them as well as a non-darbee 103?

Thanks again,

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My opinion: yes.

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