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post #21331 of 23895 Old 06-11-2015, 07:35 AM
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i expect the 103 to go away soon? What is next and when?

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It has been reported repeatedly that Oppo has said nothing new before late next year at the earliest so don't expect any new players before then.

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It has been reported repeatedly that Oppo has said nothing new before late next year at the earliest so don't expect any new players before then.
Thanks, I want one for the office, don't want to buy something on the way out.

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Panasonic, then Samsung and Sony UHD Blu-ray players. ...Then Oppo newer UHD BR players (113 & 115*) next ... somewhere around the year 2016 (end) ... I presume.

* Could also be the BDP-116.
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Thanks, I want one for the office, don't want to buy something on the way out.
No one has a UHD 4K player out at the moment that I know of. The earliest I understand any of the UHD players will reach the market is the end of this year to early next year though, as NorthSky said, Oppo have indicated they won't have a new model until late next year at the earliest.

What that means is that if you have a 4K screen in your office or are planning to get one and you want to be able to use the player to play 4K discs when they arrive, then any player you buy right now is "on the way out" because none of them will play 4K discs when those eventually start reaching the market. You simply cannot currently buy a player that will be able to play native 4K discs when they become available.

If you don't want UHD/4K disc playback in your office then the fact that all existing players could be said to be on the way out is not an issue because you don't want that functionality and you simply need to pick whatever player on the market currently meets your requirements. There's no point to waiting for the first 4K disc players to be released if you aren't going to be playing 4K discs in the office.
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I just returned my 105D, and got a 103... loving it so far. The only problem i have seen so far was it doesn't see my 5.1 ripped music on the NAS, but it does see all my other music, and the 105D saw the 5.1 ripped music. Is there something different between the 2 that would cause this?

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The only problem i have seen so far was it doesn't see my 5.1 ripped music on the NAS...
This is most unusual.

What's the make and model of your NAS? Which networking connection protocol are you using, SMB or UPnP? Which multi-channel audio format types are not being displayed?

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Hello, guys. I have ripped my SACD collection to SACD- ISO files. The Oppo can't read the ISO files so I split them into DSF tracks. I used iso2dsd to split the files. The Oppo plays the tracks just fine. My question is: am I losing audio quality splitting the ISO files that way? I don't have a program to check the DSF files.
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Hello, guys. I have ripped my SACD collection to SACD- ISO files. The Oppo can't read the ISO files so I split them into DSF tracks. I used iso2dsd to split the files. The Oppo plays the tracks just fine. My question is: am I losing audio quality splitting the ISO files that way? I don't have a program to check the DSF files.
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In short - no. You have exactly the same set of bits - just divided between several containers instead of all in one container.

About the only side-effect of doing this is that you will not have gapless playback of the tune. I do not think that the Oppo supports gapless playback for DSD just yet.

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In short - no. You have exactly the same set of bits - just divided between several containers instead of all in one container.

About the only side-effect of doing this is that you will not have gapless playback of the tune. I do not think that the Oppo supports gapless playback for DSD just yet.
Thank you for the reply. I don't use gapless playback so I'm just fine.
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Question about Oppo analog audio, please. It was recommended to me that I re-post my question here, but I apologize if it's misplaced.


My current receiver is about 15 years old (Onkyo TX SR600) and has no HDMI. I am currently running sound by Toslink optical. It was recommended to me that I upgrade my receiver first, and get HDMI for "best quality lossless audio from blu-rays." Which seems like great advice, but then I read that one of Oppo's strengths is their analog audio outs. And of course everything in the audiophile world is supposedly better when it's analog.


My thinking is that HDMI might be inferior with audio, so I should keep my current receiver (at least for now) and my next purchase should be an Oppo BDP-103, and run the audio analog and the video direct to my Samsung H6203. No HDMI in the receiver is an annoyance, but it would be a shame to ignore analog outs on a BDP in favor of digital HDMI if it's not as great.


I appreciate any advice on this issue, HDMI audio vs. analog audio. I'm just getting back to home theater after a lot of years away, so my knowledge base dates to about 2003. Here's what I'm running (all from about 2003), along with new cables and wire I bought from Monoprice:


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And of course everything in the audiophile world is supposedly better when it's analog.
Not really true. There are many good reasons to upgrade an AVR, HDMI connects and switching are just one. Huge advancements in DSP, improved analog boards and DACs, in short better sound.
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My thinking is that HDMI might be inferior with audio, so I should keep my current receiver (at least for now) and my next purchase should be an Oppo BDP-103, and run the audio analog and the video direct to my Samsung H6203. No HDMI in the receiver is an annoyance, but it would be a shame to ignore analog outs on a BDP in favor of digital HDMI if it's not as great.
First thought you are quite lucky your older AVR still works. The trend with most AVR's is strictly HDMI, and your concern that HDMI is inferior to analog audio is unfounded. Except for a few higher priced models by some brands HDMI is mainstream, and you should not notice any differences in audio quality. The BDP-103 will work out for both circumstances, if you continue to utilize your SR600 or finally replace it with something that directly supports lossless decoding along with utilizing bitstream using HDMI, not multi-channel analog out.

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My thinking is that HDMI might be inferior with audio, so I should keep my current receiver (at least for now) and my next purchase should be an Oppo BDP-103, and run the audio analog and the video direct to my Samsung H6203. No HDMI in the receiver is an annoyance, but it would be a shame to ignore analog outs on a BDP in favor of digital HDMI if it's not as great.

Thanks again.
As others have noted, analog is not necessarily better than HDMI.

I've compared analog vs. HDMI using the Oppo 83 and the 103D, using SACD recordings and movies.

In my configuration (Pioneer Elite VSX-33 rec., 7.1 Energy RC speakers,), I didn't see a real difference.

The HDMI connection is much easier to deal with (one connector vs.7), and it also allows me to do room correction automatically (MCAC) as opposed to the manual correction that I did with the analog.

In my opinion, the access to room correction and the convenience is what led me to an HDMI only setup now.
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Question about Oppo analog audio, please. It was recommended to me that I re-post my question here, but I apologize if it's misplaced.


My current receiver is about 15 years old (Onkyo TX SR600) and has no HDMI. I am currently running sound by Toslink optical. It was recommended to me that I upgrade my receiver first, and get HDMI for "best quality lossless audio from blu-rays." Which seems like great advice, but then I read that one of Oppo's strengths is their analog audio outs. And of course everything in the audiophile world is supposedly better when it's analog.


My thinking is that HDMI might be inferior with audio, so I should keep my current receiver (at least for now) and my next purchase should be an Oppo BDP-103, and run the audio analog and the video direct to my Samsung H6203. No HDMI in the receiver is an annoyance, but it would be a shame to ignore analog outs on a BDP in favor of digital HDMI if it's not as great.


I appreciate any advice on this issue, HDMI audio vs. analog audio. I'm just getting back to home theater after a lot of years away, so my knowledge base dates to about 2003. Here's what I'm running (all from about 2003), along with new cables and wire I bought from Monoprice:


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Polk Audio RTi28 Bookshelf Speakers (Mains)
Polk Audio CSi 30 (Center)
Polk Audio FXi 30 (Surrounds with the Bipole / Dipole thing)
Infinity BU2 Subwoofer


Thanks again.

Hi,


Firstly just think of HDMI as a newer version of your Toslink cable.

OK so one of your components has to do the processing work.

Normally if you believe that your AVR will do it better then you use HDMI which bypasses the players on board DAC and M/C processing.

If you think your player will do it better then you hook up at M/C analog level.

I know that your AVR has no HDMI but you get my drift.

These days AVR's are pretty damn good, have good DAC's and offer great features like Room EQ tools and SUPERIOR bass management to what a BDP offers.
You also get the benefit of 15 years of improved tech and (depending on model chosen and $ spent) maybe more (quality) power which should help in improving overall SQ

But if you plan on upgrading BOTH (which I DO recommend)........ go with the BDP first.

BDP's with analog M/C outputs are being phased out so getting one NOW will let you use it with your current Onkyo AVR at analog level and then your NEW AVR at HDMI level.

If you are into quality stereo you also might want to check out the OPPO 105D

Otherwise I would highly recommend an OPPO 103D for now (or if $ are an issue at LEAST a BDP with M/C analog outs) and a better HDMI equipped AVR later.

FWIW I have an OPPO 105 and STILL hook up to my Pre/Pro at HDMI level as due, amongst other things, to the great room EQ of Audyssey XT32......... IT JUST SOUNDS BETTER

Lastly IMHO the Analog vs Digital SQ question is irrelevant in the M/C world.


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This is most unusual.

What's the make and model of your NAS? Which networking connection protocol are you using, SMB or UPnP? Which multi-channel audio format types are not being displayed?
I am using Unraid with SMB. The 5.1 tracks that don't show up are my ripped .dts tracks which as I recall did show up with the 105D, and they also show up with Kodi.

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Does anyone else experience a slight audio dropout when first beginning a DVD? This is, thankfully, not an issue at all for HD content on BDs - just standard def content, normally on commercial DVDs.

A TV show DVD disc offers a good example to explain the problem. From the main menu, I hit "play all episodes." The player shows the FBI warnings and such and then begins the first episode. At the 10-second point, the audio drops out for half a second or so and then immediately comes back. No further dropouts occur during the episode, nor any subsequent episode. If I were to restart that first episode with the Chapter Back button on the remote, it would play through perfectly without the dropout at the 10-second mark.

If I were to choose a specific episode from the disc menu, the dropout would occur 10 seconds into that episode.

If I were to stop and then replay the disc from the beginning (i.e. without using the restore feature), the dropout would occur. OR if I were to pause the disc and let it go to the screensaver (or whatever amount of time is necessary for it to stop spinning the disc and enter whatever type of passive state it can enter), there would be a similar audio dropout shortly after resuming play of the disc - this dropout can occur at any time mark, since it is dependent on what time mark I was at when I first hit Pause.

Seems like a simple enough buffering issue, but I'm surprised it has persisted so long (I stay up to date with the firmware). Has anyone else seen this behavior?
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It's more likely an HDMI handshake issue.

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I'm seeing a symptom I'm pretty sure wasn't there originally.

  1. Pause a Blu-ray disc.
  2. Play.
  3. Disk starts to play, then stalls for 1-2 seconds, then finally resumes.

Is it just me?
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I'm seeing a symptom I'm pretty sure wasn't there originally.

  1. Pause a Blu-ray disc.
  2. Play.
  3. Disk starts to play, then stalls for 1-2 seconds, then finally resumes.

Is it just me?
No, I've seen that. I think it's been there a while. Some interaction with disc spin-up and buffering.

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Yeah, noticed this too. Rather annoying. Odd though, since we've had the last update for awhile. I wonder if that last update changed a setting somewhere? Not sure if it's been with all discs either because I don't pause discs all that often. Glad though to know it isn't only my player!!
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I am using Unraid with SMB. The 5.1 tracks that don't show up are my ripped .dts tracks which as I recall did show up with the 105D, and they also show up with Kodi.
As far as I can remember, it's never been possible to navigate to and play 'elementary' .dts (or .ac3) audio streams via UPnP or SMB using the Oppo BDP-10x players...

However, if you mux such 'elementary' audio streams into the Matroska (.mka) container it is possible to navigate to and play them via SMB.

Note to Oppo developers: I forgot to mention (ages ago) that elementary' .ac3 audio streams are often displayed as being 'APE' files via UPnP - Sorry

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Hi All,

New Oppo 103D owner, so farm I'm digging the audio features of this player and want to leverage it for my whole house audio setup. My amps are in the next room over (old HT Receivers that can take analog in, coax or optical, and one has HDMI in). What would be the best way to hook these up? the connection would be running about 30' through my crawl space.

Option 1) Use Coax/Optical to the other Receivers digital audio in - pretty sure in this case it would use the receiver's DAC - is there anyway to leverage the DAC on the Oppo?
Option 2) Use Line Level audio outs from the Oppo to the other receivers, in this case I'd be able to leverage the Oppo DAC
Option 3) Use HDMI
Option 4) Use the line Level audio out from my Emotiva Receiver as a 2nd zone (minimal advantage here other than perhaps using it's DAC but it's looks to be similar to the Oppo (Both Cirrus)

The other receivers (in the other room) are a Pioneer Elite VSX-74txi and a Yamaha RX-Z1

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Tidal app

I read that oppo users will soon get the Tidal app. Any idea when the update will happen?
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oppo 103 youtube fail

everytime i watch a youtube clip at the end the player stalls out and only recourse is to power on/off.

I know I am not the only youtube watcher with oppo so whats the catch?

the last couple youtube vids I have this happe is w/ pink floyd and steeley dan vids over 1 hr each.

any hints? this is really bad for an oppo player imo....

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I read that oppo users will soon get the Tidal app. Any idea when the update will happen?
This link says it will happen in the next firmware update. But we don't know if the 103 will get Tidal, it isn't confirmed.

http://www.whathifi.com/news/oppo-ad...lu-ray-players
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everytime i watch a youtube clip at the end the player stalls out and only recourse is to power on/off.

I know I am not the only youtube watcher with oppo so whats the catch?

the last couple youtube vids I have this happe is w/ pink floyd and steeley dan vids over 1 hr each.

any hints? this is really bad for an oppo player imo....
I've got a 103D, have not had a problem with the YouTube app. I use it fairly regularly for all sorts of material.
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