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Cool! Thank you for the fast reply!

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I've done a few searches, but came up empty handed.

I want to ditch cable and get a Roku4 and stream Playstation Vue. Is it possible to connect the Roku to the 103 by HDMI and then have HDMI run to the TV? Has anyone done this? Issues? Currently, I have a Yamaha 2095 which is optically connected to the 103 and would like to continue this way. Any issues with this?

Much appreciated as I'm new to this streaming TV gadget tech.
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I did that for a while with my Roku when my AVR was in for service. Worked fine, no hassles.

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I've done a few searches, but came up empty handed.

I want to ditch cable and get a Roku4 and stream Playstation Vue. Is it possible to connect the Roku to the 103 by HDMI and then have HDMI run to the TV? Has anyone done this? Issues? Currently, I have a Yamaha 2095 which is optically connected to the 103 and would like to continue this way. Any issues with this?

Much appreciated as I'm new to this streaming TV gadget tech.
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Consider changing the audio connection from the 103 to your pre-HDMI 5.1 channel Yamaha 2095 from optical to multichannel analog, with a bundle of six RCA cables. (I ran my setup that way for many years until I got a Yamaha that has HDMI two years ago.)

An optical or coaxial connection forces the 103 to re-encode the audio as lossy (mp3-like) DVD-era surround. Using the Oppo's multichannel analog jacks gets you your Blu-rays' lossless Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD Master Audio and LPCM soundtracks, decoded by the Oppo and fed into the Yamaha's 5.1 analog jacks.

You'll have to set the channel balance, speaker sizes, and distances inside the Oppo, but those few minutes spent on initial setup will get you much better sound.


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Consider changing the audio connection from the 103 to your pre-HDMI 5.1 channel Yamaha 2095 from optical to multichannel analog, with a bundle of six RCA cables. (I ran my setup that way for many years until I got a Yamaha that has HDMI two years ago.)

An optical or coaxial connection forces the 103 to re-encode the audio as lossy (mp3-like) DVD-era surround. Using the Oppo's multichannel analog jacks gets you your Blu-rays' lossless Dolby TrueHD, DTS HD Master Audio and LPCM soundtracks, decoded by the Oppo and fed into the Yamaha's 5.1 analog jacks.

You'll have to set the channel balance, speaker sizes, and distances inside the Oppo, but those few minutes spent on initial setup will get you much better sound.
I'm actually doing just that with a Roku and a cable box - HDMI sources go through a switcher into the Oppo's rear HDMI input - because I'm not using an AVR, I'm using an old Sansui QRX-7001 receiver. I just tell the Oppo that I don't have a center channel or a sub, and all my "surround" sources magically become "quad" sources.

It would be better, of course, if I were using a BDP-105 - but even today they're still a little pricey used and I've been enjoying the 103 for a few years now.

One system does it all - I can watch TV *and* listen to quad LPs or tapes!

Yes, I could do the same thing with an AVR and an outboard CD-4/SQ/QS decoder, but playing with old stuff is fun
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A seventies quad Sansui receiver being fed streams from a Roku via a 103. This is a magnificent melding of the ages and I bet it sounds fantastic. Very fine job sir, very fine indeed.


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Question

Has anyone heard of these Linear Power Supplies coming out of China? There are a couple different ones on ebay by Zerozone:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Upgrade-Line...kAAOSwjHdZYaHt
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A seventies quad Sansui receiver being fed streams from a Roku via a 103. This is a magnificent melding of the ages and I bet it sounds fantastic. Very fine job sir, very fine indeed.
Well thank you, I'm not sure that's really the "right" way to do it, but I just wanted a quad receiver so that I could play quad LPs if I wanted (I also have a quad R2R that I found in a Goodwill, along with a big Kenwood quad unit that sadly died shortly after) so I had to figure out a way to make it practical. Using the rear HDMI input on the Oppo 103 (or 105 would be even better) made that possible.

I just a few days ago got a used Oppo 95 so now I'm thinking a 105 or 205 may be in my future :/

One question for the more Oppo literate - is the USB wireless dongle the same for a 93/95 and 103/105? I have already ordered a replacement from Oppo for the 95 as it didn't come with one, but I would like to test it thoroughly as soon as possible in case I need to contact seller. So far I have tested HDMI video, 2 ch. RCA audio, 7.1 ch. RCA audio and everything's fine so I don't anticipate problems.
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Has anyone heard of these Linear Power Supplies coming out of China? There are a couple different ones on ebay by Zerozone:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Upgrade-Line...kAAOSwjHdZYaHt
What would the advantage/upgrade be of swapping the power supply?
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What would the advantage/upgrade be of swapping the power supply?
That and different DACs are the main differences between the 103 and 105. How much the PS alone would do I don't know.

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Oppo BDP-103 vs Pioneer DV-610AV Upscaling

Hi there,

My question is very specific and relates to the Oppo BDP-103, and how it is upscaling DVDs. The thing is that I just got a new TV, a Philips 40PFT4101, which is a HD TV, but I still only have my trusted DVD-player, Pioneer DV-610AV, which is now connected by HDMI to my TV-set, thus upscaling the DVDs to 1080p. It does a good job as far as I can see, and it's certainly an improvement compared to my previous TV-set.

Now the question is, as I have read around looking for good Blu Ray players, and also Blu Ray players that do a particular nice job playing DVDs, I have found many opinions on the Oppo. That Oppo's are doing particular nice jobs upscaling, which shouldn't be surprising considering the prices. As I still have a good sized DVD collection this is certainly key for me since I simply can't get Blu Rays for every DVD i have. So again, I want your opinion how much difference in picture quality there would be, when watching DvDs, if I purchased the Oppo above, compared to Pioneer DV-610AV?

You could compare it to the newer Oppo models as well, as the Oppo BDP-103D and the newer 203 models. But I suppose I am looking for the Oppo BDP-103 as the first choice as it stands.
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In finally doing some more testing of A/V synchronization, I've found that the variations that I've been measuring between HDMI handshakes do not occur when I use only the HDMI 2 output for both audio and video. When using split A/V, I'm now getting as much as 100ms variation between HDMI handshakes. (The range of variation I measured with a previous firmware on the BDP-103 was only 40ms.) I haven't tested HDMI 1 only (which would require some rewiring), so I'm not sure if this is a result of the Marvell QDEO processor on HDMI 1, or if it is a result of the split A/V structure. This 100ms variation is occurring with DTS-HD Master Audio output via bitstream. Other audio configurations over Split A/V result in a smaller range of variation between HDMI handshakes. The total range of measured variation in audio timing with Split A/V is 110ms, and will fit within the undetectability range of A/V synchronization with a proper delay set. When using only HDMI 2 for both video and audio there is no more than 55ms difference between different audio configurations.
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Below are the specifics of a couple of Dolby TrueHD seamless branching audio issues I've been having with the BDP-103. These are the only two titles I have that combine seamless branching with Dolby TrueHD soundtracks. I suspect the issue may occur with other Dolby TrueHD seamless branching titles as well. I'd appreciate anyone who experiences these bitstream audio interruptions with Dolby TrueHD seamless branching titles sending the details to Oppo support. Oppo support does have the "Close Encounters" disc listed below and has confirmed that they have reproduced the issue with that disc. They do not have the "Star Trek II" disc and have not confirmed the issue with it. I submitted the information below to them in November for Star Trek II and January for Close Encounters, and as of July they reported to me that they have not yet found a resolution to the issue. The BDP-103 is supposed to be capable of seamlessly bitstreaming Dolby TrueHD from seamless branching discs. (I don't believe the previous models are/were.)



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“Close Encounters of the Third Kind” 30th Anniversary Ultimate Edition, UPC 0 43396 22859 7, DISC 1.

"ORIGINAL VERSION” & "ENGLISH DOLBY TRUEHD 5.1” or
"ORIGINAL VERSION” & "FRENCH DOLBY TRUEHD 5.1”

HDMI Bitstream Audio

The audio interruptions are only for a fraction of a second, but are obvious when compared with the DTS_HD MA audio from the same segments. All except the two noted with the asterisks have been verified on a second BDP-103 by another owner, with a separate copy of the disc, and a completely separate playback system.

You may need to start playback several seconds before these points in order to consistently produce the interruption. These seem very consistent (all occurring right at shot transitions) on Close Encounters, but on the Star Trek disc I've found that sometimes one of the audio interruptions will "float," having several seconds of variance.

Chapter 5
T00:24:46/C00:01:21 (Just after Roy says “I didn’t even see him. He was just standing right in the middle of the road.”)
T00:25:29/C00:02:04 (Just after Barry says “Ice cream.")
T00:30:05/C00:06:41
T00:37:44/C00:14:19*

Chapter 8
T01:03:17/C00:03:59
T01:03:46/C00:04:28
T01:13:07/C00:13:49*

Chapter 9
T01:16:29/C00:00:55
T01:18:29/C00:02:55

Chapter 11
T01:31:15/C00:07:32

Chapter 12
T01:32:00/C00:00:33
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Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan Director's Cut Blu-ray Disc
UPC: 0 32429 24308 9 (corrected disc with yellow UPC).

The "seamless" branching seems to be resulting in a small disruption in the HDMI bitstream audio output, resulting in short audio dropouts on my Pioneer Elite SC-77 receiver. LPCM output does not seem to be affected (allowing LPCM selection as a workaround). This only occurs when playing the "Director's Cut" version, which seems to be the version that includes the alternate rather than main branches.

The audio dropouts occur at the following points on the "Director's Cut" option:

Chapter 6
C00:02:15-30/T00:34:12-28 (dropout sometimes varies between times listed)
&
C00:06:10/T00:38:07

Chapter 7
C00:04:16/T00:47:10

Chapter 13
C00:02:50/T01:24:13

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Hi there,

My question is very specific and relates to the Oppo BDP-103, and how it is upscaling DVDs. The thing is that I just got a new TV, a Philips 40PFT4101, which is a HD TV, but I still only have my trusted DVD-player, Pioneer DV-610AV, which is now connected by HDMI to my TV-set, thus upscaling the DVDs to 1080p. It does a good job as far as I can see, and it's certainly an improvement compared to my previous TV-set.

Now the question is, as I have read around looking for good Blu Ray players, and also Blu Ray players that do a particular nice job playing DVDs, I have found many opinions on the Oppo. That Oppo's are doing particular nice jobs upscaling, which shouldn't be surprising considering the prices. As I still have a good sized DVD collection this is certainly key for me since I simply can't get Blu Rays for every DVD i have. So again, I want your opinion how much difference in picture quality there would be, when watching DvDs, if I purchased the Oppo above, compared to Pioneer DV-610AV?

You could compare it to the newer Oppo models as well, as the Oppo BDP-103D and the newer 203 models. But I suppose I am looking for the Oppo BDP-103 as the first choice as it stands.
If nobody here have an answer to my specific question about comparing Oppo BDP-103 and Pioneer DV-610AV, as it concern DVDs, then I'll appreciate all comments regarding Oppo BDP-103. How is the picture quality while playing DVDs? How is it compared to other models you might have had while playing DVDs?
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If nobody here have an answer to my specific question about comparing Oppo BDP-103 and Pioneer DV-610AV, as it concern DVDs, then I'll appreciate all comments regarding Oppo BDP-103. How is the picture quality while playing DVDs? How is it compared to other models you might have had while playing DVDs?
Can't comment about the Pioneer, but the 103 has a very good reputation as a DVD upscaler. It certainly looks nice compared to my previous Oppo 93, which was denigrated by comparison to the Oppo 83, their first Blu-ray player, though it looked good to me. When the 103 came out, it was praised as a return to the 83's superior upscaling.

Both models have a switchable setting for 24p conversion of DVDs (it has no effect on Blu-rays). It looks very nice when playing DVDs coming from film, while it should be turned off when playing DVDs coming from older video sources, as it can introduce jerkiness to panning shots. Our brains have gotten used to what film sources look like not converted to 24p, while the artifacts from 24p conversion of video are more noticeable, so I keep that setting switched off by default and only turn it on if I'm sure that film is the source.

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Does anyone have any idea why my 103 is refusing to display DLNA content? I can browse through the folders, but they're all empty. EDIT: I should add that every other DLNA device works fine with the server. As usual, this is an oppo-only problem.

Also, does the 103 rely on SMB1.0 for it's SMB feature? I disabled SMB1.0 on my server (because it's becoming a security liability) and now the 103 can't see the server (and thus my alternative to the broken DLNA is gone).

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Does anyone have any idea why my 103 is refusing to display DLNA content? I can browse through the folders, but they're all empty. EDIT: I should add that every other DLNA device works fine with the server. As usual, this is an oppo-only problem.
I can confirm that I'm able to access content stored on my NAS via UPnP/DLNA just fine. Where is your media stored?


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I can confirm that I'm able to access content stored on my NAS via UPnP/DLNA just fine. Where is your media stored?


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On a Windows 10 PC running Servio DLNA server. This combo was working with the oppo last time I tried it several months ago.
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Does anyone have any idea why my 103 is refusing to display DLNA content? I can browse through the folders, but they're all empty. .
The most common cause of this is that you are following the "movie" pathway in the Oppo and browsing "music" files, or vice verse.
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The most common cause of this is that you are following the "movie" pathway in the Oppo and browsing "music" files, or vice verse.
I've fallen victim to that in the past, but that's definitely not the issue this time.

EDIT: It appears to be an app problem. I can see and play everything fine using a monitor and the remote for browsing, but the app (iOS) doesn't display any tracks. Doesn't make it any less of an issue for me, because the app is the only way I'd be initiating playback anyway (the 103 isn't even connected to a TV).

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I've fallen victim to that in the past, but that's definitely not the issue this time.

EDIT: It appears to be an app problem. I can see and play everything fine using a monitor and the remote for browsing, but the app (iOS) doesn't display any tracks. Doesn't make it any less of an issue for me, because the app is the only way I'd be initiating playback anyway (the 103 isn't even connected to a TV).
So you're using the Oppo app (installed on a phone/tablet) to navigate to your media folders/files?

If you use the Oppo remote control to navigate to your media folders/files, can you see them?

Out of interest, when was the last time you refreshed your Oppos data-base (if that's the correct term)?

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