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24p from MKV broken in the previous beta, and now DLNA broken in this latest beta? Seems like the testing at Oppo needs to shape up. This is core functionality.
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24p from MKV broken in the previous beta, and now DLNA broken in this latest beta? Seems like the testing at Oppo needs to shape up. This is core functionality.

Worse, I am unable to revert to the last official release, so I guess I'm stuck with no DLNA until the next release.

correction: see my message 7804

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24p from MKV broken in the previous beta, and now DLNA broken in this latest beta? Seems like the testing at Oppo needs to shape up. This is core functionality.

miniDLNA is working for me so DLNA is not generally broken. May be issues with a specific server.

As always, get your details to OPPO so they can investigate and correct.

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Worse, I am unable to revert to the last official release, so I guess I'm stuck with no DLNA until the next release.

I got the following in an email response from Oppo:

We can confirm that you can roll back the 67-1120B Firmware to the 60-0910 Firmware
(http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/BDP103-firmware-60-0910.aspx#Thumbdrive).

Simply put the BIN file onto the thumbdrive then go into Device Setup and Firmware Upgrade then select VIA USB.

A prompt will display:

"Your player already has a newer version BDP10x-67-1120B of the Main Firmware

Would you still like to install?"

With the options "Yes" and "No".

Highlight "Yes" then press ENTER on the remote control to downgrade the firmware.


It works. I can use my JRiver DLNA server again. My previous attempts to revert were to the wrong versions.

Thanks Oppo.
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^^^Just can't beat the support OPPO gives its customers!

With dual subs, stack'em in the corner and put on a jockstrap. Don't want EVERYTHING in the room jingling!
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Here is the reply I received from Oppo as regards the JRiver Media Center issue with the current Beta.

"Issues related to JRiver 18 and 19 not working with the player have been reported and observed internally. We will be working on having this issue resolved through our own future firmware release."smile.gif

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As already spotted in the 103 and 103D threads, OPPO UK has now posted the Public Beta 1120B firmware for the EU version of the BDP-105 as well.
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Anyone know when a new model of this player is due? I see it's been out about a year now and I hate buying something that will be replaced soon.

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Anyone know when a new model of this player is due? I see it's been out about a year now and I hate buying something that will be replaced soon.
There's usually two years or more between totally new Oppo products in a category. You shouldn't expect a replacement for the 10x players before late in 2014.

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Anyone know when a new model of this player is due? I see it's been out about a year now and I hate buying something that will be replaced soon.

I couldn't say if I had heard anything, but I can honestly say I've heard nothing.

The key unknown would be regarding a -105D, corresponding to the -103D, which subtracted QDEO from the -103 and added Darbee and VRS.

People have asked if a -105D is coming, but OPPO has said nothing about it.

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I was wondering about a Darbee version as well. I have a new projector that does pretty well. Some that have it aren't using their Darbee with it so I figure no need to wait to see if Oppo offers a Darbee version. I'm mainly buying it for analog audio anyway. Thanks for the replies. I think I will by one for our Xmas present.

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Oppo's email reply to my question about the arrival of a next gen player.
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There are no immediate plans to do so, but depending on the sell through rate of the BDP-103D and the number of customers who are requesting the BDP-105 with a built in Darbee processor, we may pursue releasing a BDP-105D in the future.
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I have just updated my 105EU to the European version of the new beta firmware.

Up to now, my chosen solution for the inability of the Oppo 105 to display the PGS subtitles from my Blu-ray rips has been a rather laborious process of converting them to VOB subtitles using AnyDVD, tsMuxeR and BDSup2Sub. My MKV files are created using MakeMKV and then MKVMerge is used to remux using the new VOB subtitles. This overall process is slow because I have to demux the original Blu-ray twice, once with tsMuxeR and once with MakeMKV.

Prior to this I had used a faster VOB conversion process, first creating my MKV file with MakeMKV and then using MKVExtract to extract the PGS subtitles for subsequent conversion by BDSup2Sub. However, in this case the resulting VOB subtitles appeared in a blurry green format on the Oppo (ref my earlier post #6131). I reported this issue to Oppo back in August and provided a short sample MKV file. I am pleased to say that the new firmware has now fixed this bug smile.gif.

This fix should have been of merely academic interest, as one of the claimed benefits of the new beta firmware is "Added support for MKV files with PGS subtitles". I was therefore hoping to ditch all my VOB conversion activities. However, my MKV files still won't display PGS subtitles. Has anyone had better luck with this?

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Are the PGS subtitles stored in the file, or are they external to the file?

Are the PGS subtitles the only subtitles, or are there other subtitle formats like ASS or SUB/IDX in the file?

Are you playing these files through attached USB storage or through DLNA/SMB streaming?
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The original PGS subtitles have been remuxed into the MKV file in addition to my VOB conversions of those subtitles. I am playing the MKV file via DLNA.

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^ So far, the reports we've had here are that the new PGS stuff is working for directly attached hard drives and for SMB, but not for DLNA. It may be folks have not figured out how to enable that in the DLNA server(s) yet.
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I have just played a short MKV file stored on a USB flash memory stick plugged into the front panel USB socket. It too refuses to display the PGS subtitles but has no problem with the VOB subs.

A check of this MKV in J River Media Center (which clearly identifies each type of subtitle embedded in the file) confirms the presence of both PGS and VOB subtitles. JRMC has no problem playing both versions.

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Try removing the VOB/SUB from the file and see if it works properly then.
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Try removing the VOB/SUB from the file and see if it works properly then.

I'll give that a try tomorrow.

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Any difference in letting the 105 send a bitstream to receiver or let it do the conversion? I'm referring to the playback of Blu-ray discs. Thx.

I must say that I am in love with the sound when using the RCA outs on the 105 and setting my AVR in Pure Direct mode. So clear and detailed, especially when streaming FLACs from the NAS. This is also a killer streaming device.
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After finding that the new beta firmware's claimed support for PGS subtitles in MKV files does not work over DLNA, I have now found even more disappointing news. The experimental gapless playback feature also does not work over DLNA. This feature can only be activated if you are playing music from locally-attached storage, which is not much use if you have all your music files stored on a NAS box. Grrrrrr.

I wish Oppo had mentioned the lack of DLNA support for these two new features in their firmware description and thus avoided raising my hopes... frown.gif

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EDIT: On the positive side, at least I know Oppo is working on these issues. I will just have to be patient and wait for a future firmware update.
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Any difference in letting the 105 send a bitstream to receiver or let it do the conversion? I'm referring to the playback of Blu-ray discs. Thx.

Should be no difference, apart from codec indicator lights on the receiver.

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Would anyone happen to know how you can get an image in a music folder to show up on the TV screen with the playback controls. I downloaded a piece of music from "HD Tracks" and the folder I downloaded from them has a JPEG in the folder that appears on the screen. I I do same with a music folder no image appears. I imagine this has to do with menus/playlists. I searched for key terms but came up empty-handed.
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The player uses embedded album art or gracenote, but the player will not use folder art.
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^^^

Absolutely correct - and just to add to that for clarity and to anticipate follow-on questions for Jokerman, just in case:

1) The tracks downloaded from HDTracks came with an album art sidecar file, yes. But the tracks also had album art embedded in them. It is a redundant scheme.
2) Album art via a sidecar jpg file is a real kludge. Yes, it is a nice backup to have when a format does not support art tags, but most commonly-used music formats (flac, alac, ape, mp3, m4a) do. Some formats don't support embedded album art - or do so poorly, and in that case using the sidecar is a work-around - but it is a lousy work-around. Implementations of the sidecar strategy are notoriously finicky - since they all seem to use a different naming convention for the file (cover.jpg? foldername.jpg?, trackfilename.jpg?, deadpuppies.jpg?) and the odds that you will receive music from someone with a sidecar whose name is "compliant" with the assumptions made in your player/server implementation is next to diddlysquat. Viewed in this light, Oppo did just the right thing in their implementation by making use of embedded art.

So here's a piece of advice from a guy with a little over 15,000 tracks of self-ripped audio on his system, and who uses numerous devices and methods for playback of those tracks. Add a step to your normal workflow for purchased downloads or self-ripped music. Get a tagging app (or player with good tagging capabilities, like iTunes or JRiver Media Center or others - there are lots), and check the tags yourself. If the files are not properly tagged with cover art, artist, album, genre (this one can be your genre then, and not someone else's), and perhaps composer for some albums, then fix it there if something is wrong or missing. Fix it right then so you don't accumulate over time a huge number of tracks that are not properly tagged. Then the new files will work properly (be displayed in the right place and with the proper art work) in all competently-implemented browsers and players (including the Oppo) - all the time - from then onward.

This is not a lot of work. It usually involves opening the tagging app, multiselecting all the files for an album, and setting all 4 of the aforementioned tags in one step. You don't have to go through this once for every track unless there is something track-specific that you want to do. When you get good at this, it takes about 1 minute, including the time it takes to locate and download album art (image search on bing, yahoo, or google works great) and embed it. It takes far longer to rip the files in the first place.
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I have a problem since yesterday. I tried to switch on my 105 and my remote didn't work. I tried the on button from the unit itself but didn't work either. I see red light as it is on stand by however player doesn't switch on. I tried unplugging the power cable and plug it back, click the on off button from the player it switches on for half a second and go back to standby and on/off button stops working like the player freezes. I tried unplugging all the hdmi and network cables and changed the power cable and its same.

has anyone experienced something like this?

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^ Unplug everything from the player. Take it to a different room (different wall power circuit).

While it is still unplugged, press and hold the power button for about 10 seconds to discharge any residual power.

Attach just wall power. Try the Tray Open button on the Front Panel to both power up and open the tray. If that works, power down and try with the normal power button. If not, the player will need service.
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^ Unplug everything from the player. Take it to a different room (different wall power circuit).

While it is still unplugged, press and hold the power button for about 10 seconds to discharge any residual power.

Attach just wall power. Try the Tray a Open button on the Front Panel to both power up and open the tray. If that works, power down and try with the normal power button. If not, the player will need service.
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thanks for the help but no luck frown.gif


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^ Nope. Sounds like the player needs warranty service. Send an email to OPPO Tech Support describing what's happening and what you've tried -- e.g., this latest attempt. They'll get you going again.
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