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Official OPPO BDP-105 Owner's Thread

Official BDP-105 Website
OPPO BDP-103 & BDP-105 Blu-ray Q&A Interview
Asynchronous USB Drivers (Windows XP/Vista/7/8)
OPPO Wiki FAQ
Unofficial BDP-103 FAQ

UPDATED 07/18/2016 - Beta 83-0715B Firmware Released
UPDATED 11/06/2015 - Official 80-1031 Firmware Released
UPDATED 10/24/2014 - Official 77-0827 Firmware Released
UPDATED 09/12/2014 - Beta 77-0827B Firmware Released
UPDATED 05/19/2014 - Official 75-0515 Firmware Released
UPDATED 04/30/2014 - Beta 75-0430B Firmware Released
UPDATED 02/20/2014 - Official 70-0218 Firmware Released
UPDATED 02/12/2014 - Beta 69-0124B Firmware Released
UPDATED 01/13/2014 - BDP-105D (Darbee) Released
UPDATED 04/05/2013 - The Absolute Sound (Chris Martins) Review Posted
UPDATED 03/25/2013 - Sound+Vision (Al Griffin) Review Posted
UPDATED 02/19/2013 - Audiophile Audion (Brian Bloom) Review Posted
UPDATED 02/18/2013 - Jim Prillaman Review Posted
UPDATED 02/04/2013 - Audioholics (Gene DellaSala) Review Posted
UPDATED 01/28/2013 - From Script to DVD (William Kallay) Review Posted
UPDATED 01/25/2013 - Everything Audio Network (John Gatski) Review Posted
UPDATED 01/24/2013 - Home Theater (Kris Deering) Review Posted
UPDATED 01/10/2013 - DEG Emiel N. Petrone Innovation Best Physical Media Product awarded to BDP-105
UPDATED 12/20/2012 - LAAudiofile (Kevin Nakano) Review Posted
UPDATED 12/19/2012 - BDP-105 receives Product of the Year from Secrets of Home Theater and HiFi
UPDATED 12/05/2012 - Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity (John E. Johnson) Writeup
UPDATED 11/20/2012 - Buy Now: Ships November 26th
UPDATED 11/13/2012 - Special Order Invitations sent

Uniquely Better:

  • 4K Up-scaling - Enhance the home theater experience with four times the resolution of Full HD 1080p by up-scaling all video sources to 4K (3840 x 2160) output resolution.
  • 2D to 3D Conversion – Take your standard DVD, Blu-ray, and other video content to the next dimension by converting them into 3D with the simple press of a button. The BDP-105 can also adjust the depth and eye convergence levels to suit your personal preference.
  • Dual HDMI Inputs – Connect external devices such as set-top boxes and network streaming devices to take further advantage of the excellent audio and video processing functions by the BDP-105. The BDP-105 offers two HDMI inputs, one on the front and one on the back, and the front HDMI input doubles as an MHL input.
  • USB Asynchronous DAC – By bypassing the low fidelity, poor quality DAC of traditional computer soundcards, the BDP-105 turn any computer into a high performing multi-media source by converting digital audio to analog through the ESS Sabre32 Reference DAC. If your computer can play it, the BDP-105 can convert it to analog.
  • Coaxial/Optic Inputs – For additional convenience and flexibility, the BDP-105 can convert digital signals from cable and satellite boxes, televisions, video-game consoles and other digital transports with coaxial and optical digital outputs to analog.
  • DMP & DMR - Digital Media Player (DMP) and Digital Media Renderer (DMR) features enable wired or wireless access of audio, picture, and video files stored on DLNA-compatible digital media servers such as a computer or network storage device (NAS).
  • SMB/CIFS Access - The BDP-105 comes with an experimental feature that can access video, audio and picture files shared by computers on the local network via the Server Message Block (SMB) or Common Internet File System (CIFS) protocol.
  • Headphone Amplifier – For a more intimate listening experience, a pair of headphones can be connected directly to the BDP-105’s built-in headphone amplifiers. The headphone amplifier is connected directly to the ESS Sabre32 Reference DAC and offers a unique performance advantage over standalone headphone amplifiers.
  • Rigid Chassis Construction - Built around a steel chassis, aluminum faceplate, and center-mounted disc loader, the BDP-105 is designed to impress as well as to provide a stable base for the highest quality reproduction of your favorite media.
  • Fanless Architecture – The BDP-105 is passively cooled, allowing it to run both cool and quiet without the need for internal or external fans.

High Fidelity Audio Performance:
  • SABRE32 Reference Audio DAC - The DAC is one of the most important components for digital audio playback. The SABRE32 Reference ES9018 from ESS Technology is the world’s best performing 32-bit audio DAC solution targeted for high-end consumer applications and professional studio equipment. With the ESS patented 32-bit Hyperstream™ DAC architecture and Time Domain Jitter Eliminator, the SABRE32 Reference DAC delivers an unprecedented DNR (Dynamic Range) of up to 135dB and THD+N (Total Harmonic Distortion plus Noise) of -120dB, the industry’s highest performance level that will satisfy even the most demanding audio enthusiast. The BDP-105 uses two ES9018 DAC chips - one for the 7.1-channel output, and another for the dedicated stereo output. To learn more about the technologies behind the exceptional performance of the SABRE DAC, please read the SABRE Technical White Paper.
  • Toroidal Power Supply - A toroidal power transformer offers superior power efficiency and much lower exterior magnetic fields over traditional laminated steel core transformers. The BDP-105's toroidal linear power supply provides a very clean and robust power source to the critical audio components.
  • Dedicated Stereo Output with XLR Balanced Connectors - The BDP-105 features a dedicated 2-channel analog output with specially optimized ES9018 DAC and output driving stages. The stereo output offers both XLR balanced and RCA single-ended connectors. The balanced output features a true differential signal path all the way from the DAC to the 3-pin XLR connector. By transmitting a pair of differential signals, the balanced output provides better common-mode noise rejection and improves signal quality.
  • 7.1-Channel Analog Output - Individual analog 7.1-channel surround outputs are ideal for connecting to a 7.1-channel or 5.1-channel surround sound system. The BDP-105 delivers an incredible sound stage and an immersive surround experience. The 7.1-channel analog output can also be configured to a stereo down-mix mode as a Zone 2 audio source.
  • Dolby® TrueHD - Dolby TrueHD delivers lossless studio master quality audio designed specifically for high definition entertainment. The BDP-105 supports bit-stream output of Dolby TrueHD via its HDMI 1.4a output. It can also internally decode Dolby TrueHD into LPCM and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals. Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus audio formats are also supported.
  • DTS-HD Master Audio™ - DTS-HD Master Audio delivers an auditory experience that matches the lifelike images of high-definition video with up to 7.1 channels that are bit-for-bit identical to the studio master. The BDP-105 supports bit-stream output of DTS-HD Master Audio. It can also internally decode DTS-HD Master Audio and output via HDMI or the 7.1ch analog audio output terminals. (DTS-HD High Resolution Audio and DTS Digital Surround are also supported.)

Diversified Media Support:
  • Blu-ray Disc - The high definition Blu-ray Disc™ format provides pristine video and audio quality for your home entertainment.
  • Blu-ray 3D – Experience high definition in all new dimensions. The BDP-105 supports the Blu-ray 3D specifications and is fully compatible with Blu-ray 3D discs1.
  • SACD - The BDP-105 plays Super Audio CD (SACD) and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to output the DSD (Direct Stream Digital) signal in its native format or convert it to PCM.
  • DVD-Audio - The BDP-105 plays DVD-Audio and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to play the DVD-Audio or the DVD-Video portion of the disc.
  • VUDU HD Movie Streaming - Stream thousands of movies instantly the day-and-date they are released on DVD/Blu-ray in stunning 1080p video, rich 7.1 surround audio and even in 3D2.
  • Netflix Instant Streaming - Instantly watch TV shows & movies streaming from Netflix3. Netflix "Just For Kids" is a special selection of kid-friendly TV episodes & movies for younger viewers. It is included with your Netflix unlimited streaming membership. Selected titles support features including 1080p video, 5.1ch audio, subtitles and alternative audio languages.
  • Pandora Internet Radio - Personalized music streaming using the Music Genome Project, staying true to their mission: "Playing only the music you'll love".4
  • Comprehensive Internet Streaming - In addition to VUDU, Netflix and Pandora, the BDP-105 provides access to popular entertainment network services from Film Fresh, YouTube Leanback and Picasa, with more to come.
  • BD-Live & BonusVIEW - The BDP-105 supports BD-Live™ (Profile 2.0) and contains all necessary hardware - audio/video decoder, Ethernet and wireless networking, and 1GB of internal storage - for BD-Live. It also supports BonusVIEW (Profile 1.1) enabling "picture-in-picture" and audio features for viewing director or actor commentary while the main movie is playing.
  • Additional Disc & Media Formats - Additional disc and file formats, such as DVD, audio CD, HDCD, Kodak Picture CD, AVCHD, MP4, AVI, MKV and other audio/video/picture files on recorded discs or USB drives can be played back on the BDP-105. The BDP-105 fully supports high-resolution lossless WAV and FLAC music formats.5

Unparalleled Video Quality:
  • Qdeo by Marvell - The BDP-105 incorporates Marvell's Kyoto-G2H video processor with the latest generation Qdeo™ technology. Qdeo video processing delivers a truly immersive viewing experience by rendering quiet natural video free of noise and artifacts for all types of content. For high-quality Blu-ray content, the BDP-105 faithfully reproduces the program just as the director intended; for DVD, the up-converted picture quality bridges the visual gap from your current DVD library to Blu-ray discs; for network streaming and user-encoded content at a variety of formats and quality, the BDP-105 offers enhancement options including video noise reduction, compression artifact reduction, intelligent color, contrast, detail and edge enhancements. To learn more about the Qdeo video processing technology, please read the Qdeo Extended Technology Brief.
  • DVD Up-Conversion - Per-pixel motion-adaptive de-interlacing and advanced scaling transform the standard definition image on DVDs to high definition output on your TV. Additional Qdeo video processing options help to deliver a clearer, smoother, and more true-to-life picture free of noise and artifacts.
  • Full HD 1080p Output - The BDP-105 features user selectable video output resolutions, including 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p and 4K.
  • True 24p™ Video - Many Blu-ray Discs are recorded at 24 frames per second, the same frame rate as the original movie's theatrical release. The BDP-105 can faithfully redeliver the original frames using 1080p 24Hz output (compatible display required) for smoother motion and a flicker-free, film-like home theater experience. It can also restore the original 24 frames per second progressive-scan video from well-authored DVDs and output 1080p 24Hz.
  • Source Direct Mode - For users who wish to use an external video processor, the BDP-105 offers a "Source Direct" mode. The original audio/video content on the discs is sent out with no additional processing or alteration.
  • Multiple Zoom Modes - The BDP-105 supports multiple levels of aspect ratio control and image zooming. Users can watch a movie in its original aspect ratio, fit to the full screen, or zoom in to remove the black bars on some titles.
  • Vertical Stretch Mode - For customers with a 2.35:1 CIH (Constant Image Height) display system, the player's zoom options include a vertical stretch mode to work nicely with an anamorphic lens. A unique subtitle shift feature allows the user to move the subtitle up and down, making it possible to see all subtitle text when using a 2.35:1 CIH display.
  • Advanced Picture Control - Users can have fine control of brightness, contrast, saturation, hue, sharpness, noise reduction, color and contrast enhancements. The player can remember and apply three custom picture control modes to suit a variety of viewing conditions and content types.

Ultimate Convenience:
  • Dual HDMI Outputs – Two HDMI v1.4a output ports are provided to offer the most versatile installation options to both older and newer HDMI equipment. You do not have to upgrade your A/V receiver to a 3D model in order to enjoy 3D. One HDMI output of the BDP-105 can be connected to a 3D TV and the other can be connected to a pre-3D HDMI v1.1-v1.3 A/V receiver. For projector users, you can connect one output to a projector for home theater use and the other to a TV for casual viewing. For a multi-room installation the BDP-105 can output audio and video to two 3D or 2D TVs simultaneously.
  • MHL Input – Simplify connecting smartphones, tablets and other mobile devices to the home theater by using the MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link) input port of the BDP-105. Display high resolution pictures, 1080p video and listen to pure digital music all while simultaneously charging the connected mobile device. The front HDMI input port of the BDP-105 doubles as an MHL input.
  • Wireless & Ethernet – Using the included wireless-N adapter or the built-in RJ45 Ethernet port, users will be able to interact with BD-Live content, watch instant streaming programs from providers such as Netflix or VUDU, playback contents stored on their home network, and keep the BDP-105 up-to-date with firmware releases to ensure maximum Blu-ray compatibility.
  • Triple USB Ports - Three USB 2.0 high speed ports are provided, one on the front panel and two on the back. Users can enjoy high definition video, high resolution photos and music directly from their USB drives.
  • PAL/NTSC Conversion - The BDP-105 supports NTSC and PAL systems for both disc playback and video output. It can also convert content of one system for output in another. (Subject to DVD and BD region restrictions.)
  • Back-lit Remote Control - The BDP-105 comes with a fully back-lit remote control for ease of use in dark home theaters. With its ergonomic button layout and clear labeling, operating the Blu-ray Disc player is easier than ever.
  • World Power Supply - The BDP-105 features a world power supply that is compatible with AC power from all regions. Voltage range from 100V-120V and 200V-240V can be selected by flipping a switch on the back panel.
  • External IR - For integration into home theater control systems, the BDP-105 provides an external IR IN port to use with an IR distribution system.
  • RS232 Control - For custom installation, the BDP-105 offers an RS232 control port with a rich control and communication protocol. Installers can easily program their favorite control systems to operate the BDP-105.
  • Remote Control Apps – For additional user convenience, the BDP-105 can be operated using remote control apps running on compatible smartphone and tablet devices. The remote control app for Android is already available. An app for Apple iOS devices is coming soon.
  • HDMI CEC - HDMI Consumer Electronics Control simplifies the home theater by allowing a single remote control to operate multiple devices.
  • Gracenote MusicID® and VideoID™ - By connecting to Gracenote's global media database over the Internet, the BDP-105 can offer an enriched playback experience by displaying Cover Art, Title, Artist, Genre and other media information for CD, DVD, Blu-ray and a wide range of digital media files.

OPPO BDP-105 User's Manual
Unofficial BDP-103 FAQ (Applicable to the BDP-105)
OPPO Wiki FAQ

REVIEWS
The Absolute Sound (Chris Martins)
Sound+Vision (Al Griffin)
Audiophile Audion (Brian Bloom)
Jim Prillaman
Audioholics (Gene DellaSala)
From Script to DVD (William Kallay)
Everything Audio Network (John Gatski)
Home Theater (Kris Deering)
DEG Emiel N. Petrone Innovation 2012 Best Physical Media Product Award
LAAudiofile (Kevin Nakano)
Product of the Year from Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity
Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity (John E. Johnson) Writeup

FIRMWARE RELEASES
Check the Official BDP-103 Owner's Thread. I want to keep this thread more about the quality of the player, and less about software/firmware issues.
 
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#52 ·
In regards to the headphone amp:
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonStatt  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22597119


The end result is a very smooth, easy to listen to, well balanced sound. For those looking for more excitement, it may fall short and for those looking to chill-out and relax, it is going to be very pleasing indeed. It isn't over-powering at any frequency point and is fairly neutral. If it just had a bit more oomph it would have been perfect.

Exactly. More juice to the headphone amp would have made my higher-end and harder-to-drive cans "sing" and the Oppo would be that much better. As it stands now, the 105 and my LCD-2s are very listenable, but the LCD-2s (when driven by the 105) just don't excite me as much as I know that they are capable of doing. Perhaps this will change as I do more extensive listening.


Here's a quote from David from the anticipation thread:
Quote:
Oppo is very conservative in their current design spec for the headphone circuit. Look at the table below for the rated 0.001% THD spec. The chip is capable of much more output power at this low THD than what Oppo has designed it for.


Impedance Oppo Spec Chip Spec (@0.001% THD)


600 ohm 12mW 80mW - 150mW (depending on whether Oppo uses +/-12 or +/-15V supply rails. Higher voltage produces higher output powers).


60 ohm 91mW 850mW - 1300mW (depending on whether Oppo uses +/-12 or +/-15V supply rails).


32 ohm 137mW 1500mW - 2000mW (depending on whether Oppo uses +/-12 or +/-15V supply rails).


I hope Oppo gives the user in software for the option to set the maximum output power level of the headphone amplifier. This will prevent alot of users from complaining about the 'lack' of punch or whatever for those more exotic headphones that require higher current drives(not the iphone typessmile.gif!).


- David

If Oppo could provide this option in a firmware upgrade I think it would make a lot of us very happy.
(And to heck with those users who use cheap ear-buds with a $1200 player...all TWO of them.)


Today, I plugged in my Denon AH-D5000 headphones and used them with the 105. These cans are much easier to drive and results were, as expected, very good. Plenty of volume and room to go higher. (I listened to the DVD-A of Rough Mix and a CD by Loudon Wainwright III.) The Denon 5000s, unfortunately, aren't in the same league as the Senn 800s or the Audez'es.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcrown1  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22597521


Is it just me? The bass in the 105 sounds a lot more tighter then the 95. It has a more real world sound to it. The bass in the 95 always sounded like a big boom box..

I agree. The bass on the 105 is very nice--tight and well-defined.


My last Oppo was an 83 (modded to be region free) so the 105 is a significant upgrade for me. Tonight I'll focus more on the video aspects of the unit.
 
#53 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franchot  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread#post_22597027



Sorry about the lack of description. I only had a short amount of time to set the player up and test out how the headphone amp sounded. By "nice" I mean the sound was smooth, detailed, and non-fatiguing. (I was listening to selected cuts from the CD versions of the Cure's Greatest Hits and John Hiatt's "Riding With The King" and an SACD of Bowie's Ziggy Stardust.)

I did some further headphone listening tonight switching back and forth between the headphone jacks on the 105 and my Yamaha 2000 and my Sennheiser 800s and the LCD-2s

I put in Clash of the Titans 3-D in the 105 with the 800s and the 105 didn't seem to muscle up a great deal of volume. The detail was very nice, but I had the volume up to 90 and above. On the Yamaha, there was plenty of headroom to go higher and the movie played much louder. Switching over to the LCD-2s, the 105 provided a better sound (clearer and more detailed), but again the volume was up to 85 to 90 to give me the sort of immersion that I craved. Again, the Yamaha easily played the movie louder if not as cleanly and crisply.

I put in Quadrophenia SACD (import) and again I was rather disappointed with the amount of volume from the 105 with the 800s. I could push the volume to 100 without distorting, but I've never listened to my cans at near maximum volume before. (Maybe it's a psychological thing or maybe I'm just getting old.
.) Quadrophenia sounded better on the 105 with the LCD-2s, but the volume was in the 85 and up region.

At this juncture, I'm enjoying how the 105 and the LCD-2s interact with each other. The 800s and the Yamaha seem to work better for me. I'll let my ears (and body) get a good night's rest and do some more exploring tomorrow.
 

Franchot:

 

Thanx so much for taking the time to review the headphone amp of the 105. It seems my fears about the power of the headphone amp have been realized and they can't increase the power w/o changing a capacitor somewhere on the 2Ch board. I can imagine modders charging $100 to change a cap
!

 

- David
 
#54 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hikmer  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598116


How does the analouge output between the 103 and the 105 compare? I am finding my outboard DAC to sound better than the 103 and was hoping somoene could compare the two. The bass in the 103 is a tad on the soft side compared to my outbard DAC. I was thinking of picking up the 105 and doing a side by side, then retrun the 103 if I find it worth the extra $700+ dollars. Can you providse any of your findings?

I have not compared the 103 to the 105 for analog out. The 103 is in my dedicated theater room. I use bitstream out over HDMI to the high end $7k DENON processor. The perceived difference in a comparison test would likely depend somewhat on the other components in the system. With a very transparent system, I suspect that the 105 would easily out perform the 103. In other words, different people with different systems would see varying results. In my audio system I use the 105 for its analog out performance. In my theater room, I use the 103 for its video performance and other OPPO player shared features.
 
#55 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by audiofan1  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598275


Do you guys use the 95's FL/FR option in the audio setup? if so set it to downmix and there will be more detail and tighter bass, If you guys would check this out that would be great:)

I also find the downmix setting more to my liking. It seems to provide a more full bodied presentation but I have not sampled a lot of different discs yet. The fine detail in the new Naxos disc with Copland's piano concerto is amazing. This afternoon I plan to test some coral music to see how it handles the complexity. Then I will go to solo voice.
 
#57 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Torqdog  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598347


As I said, the differences weren't substantial but noticable. IIRC(it's been so long) bass was a tad deeper with the 95 and it just seemed there was a slight bit more definition in the highs. I did however notice a better multichannel performance (SACDs) with the 95 over the 83SE as there was a difinite step up in performance that was realized when going from the 9006 multichannel DAC in the 83SE to the 9018 multi used in the 95. That made all the difference for me as I do listen to allot of SACDs and concert blurays via analog.

My post should have stated 2 ch.
 
#58 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Mathus  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598468


I also find the downmix setting more to my liking. It seems to provide a more full bodied presentation but I have not sampled a lot of different discs yet. The fine detail in the new Naxos disc with Copland's piano concerto is amazing. This afternoon I plan to test some coral music to see how it handles the complexity. Then I will go to solo voice.

Hmm...I haven't tried this yet, but to make sure I am clear. You are playing "stereo" music and are finding a difference on the dedicated stereo outputs if they are set to downmix vs Front L/R?? If so there is something wrong (firmware) that needs to be fixed. There should be absolutely no difference with that setting for the dedicated stereo output when listening to stereo music. If you have a crossover set and speakers set to small I am guessing that may influence things. In my case though all speakers are set to large, all at default output level and default distance. Therefore there should be absolutely no difference....
 
#59 ·
BDP-105 arrived today. One of the things I really needed was for it to handle the audio from the TV, however the audio via both ARC and Toslink is severely out-of-sync (was perfect with the old Outlaw 950 that I'm retiring). The sync issue remains with all tested sources from the TV, both OTA and using Vierra Connect for Amazon Prime feeds.


I do hope a firmware fix for this is on the way soon.
 
#60 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkphader  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598652


BDP-105 arrived today. One of the things I really needed was for it to handle the audio from the TV, however the audio via both ARC and Toslink is severely out-of-sync (was perfect with the old Outlaw 950 that I'm retiring). The sync issue remains with all tested sources from the TV, both OTA and using Vierra Connect for Amazon Prime feeds.


I do hope a firmware fix for this is on the way soon.

What's the direction of the error? Audio ahead of video (audio needs delay) or audio behind video (audio already has too much delay)?

--Bob
 
#61 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hikmer  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598116


How does the analouge output between the 103 and the 105 compare? I am finding my outboard DAC to sound better than the 103 and was hoping somoene could compare the two. The bass in the 103 is a tad on the soft side compared to my outbard DAC. I was thinking of picking up the 105 and doing a side by side, then retrun the 103 if I find it worth the extra $700+ dollars. Can you providse any of your findings?

Check to make sure you have the Subwoofer output properly calibrated in your 103. If you have all speakers set to Large (or OFF) the Subwoofer output of the 103 needs +10dB boost external to the player to match the other multi-channel Analog output channels.


If any speakers are set to Small the Subwoofer output of the 103 needs +15dB boost external to the player to accomplish the same thing.


I recommend using a calibration disc to check this, such as the LPCM test tracks from AIX Audio Calibration, Blu-ray. Note that if your room has typical amounts of Room Gain, the SPL of the Subwoofer test tone will typically measure 2-4dB SPL hotter than the other channels when it is set "correctly" -- "C" weighting, slow response on the meter.

--Bob
 
#62 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkphader  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/60#post_22598720

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598695


What's the direction of the error? Audio ahead of video (audio needs delay) or audio behind video (audio already has too much delay)?

--Bob

Audio is behind the video. Even disc play is off but only by a bit, enough to be annoying as opposed to virtually unusable with ARC/Toslink feed. This is using the using the Stereo Outs w/stereo downmix directly driving the power amp.

Please shoot OPPO tech support an email with the configuration you are using that demonstrates the problem. Do mention that the same sort of thing worked OK when using the Outlaw, so they know your TV is putting out stuff with proper sync at its outputs.

--Bob
 
#63 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by OtherSongs  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread#post_22595050


Nice 1st post to kick off this "Official OPPO BDP-105 Owner's Thread" I applaud your above comment of "I want to keep this thread more about the quality of the player, and less about software/firmware issues." IMO you might consider putting these words near the start of the 1st post.

Great so how does it sound I am sitting on the side line even so I received a pre-invitation, dose it sound better than the BDP-95?
 
#64 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcrown1  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22597521


Is it just me? The bass in the 105 sounds a lot more tighter then the 95. It has a more real world sound to it. The bass in the 95 always sounded like a big boom box. The picture is also better I have noticed a more flim like texture to the picture. This may be due to the better transport in the 105 as compared to the 95.

What is your system?
 
#65 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonStatt  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598626


Hmm...I haven't tried this yet, but to make sure I am clear. You are playing "stereo" music and are finding a difference on the dedicated stereo outputs if they are set to downmix vs Front L/R?? If so there is something wrong (firmware) that needs to be fixed. There should be absolutely no difference with that setting for the dedicated stereo output when listening to stereo music. If you have a crossover set and speakers set to small I am guessing that may influence things. In my case though all speakers are set to large, all at default output level and default distance. Therefore there should be absolutely no difference....


I believe audiofan1 stated this was the case by down mixing the "FL & FR" of the MCH outputs, not the "dedicated" stereo outputs...
 
#66 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by vlach  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/60#post_22598812


I believe audiofan1 stated this was the case by down mixing the "FL & FR" of the MCH outputs, not the "dedicated" stereo outputs...

I await clarification then. I assumed he meant the setting for the dedicated stereo outputs which can either be "Downmix" or "Front L/R".
 
#67 ·
If you are using the Front Left and Right outputs of the BDP-95 then you are using a non-stacked DAC configuration as these outputs are one DAC-channel per output-channel. DownMix has no affect on the stacking as this is a hardware, not software configuration.


On the BDP-95 when you are using the dedicated stereo or XLR outputs, regardless of the Stereo Signal (Audio Processing) setting, the player is using four DAC-channels per output-channel. These outputs are always DAC stacked.


On the BDP-105 you are getting one-DAC channel per output-channel regardless of the output, except for the headphone output, which is two DAC-channels per output-channel.
 
#68 ·

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Originally Posted by Franchot  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598352


Today, I plugged in my Denon AH-D5000 headphones and used them with the 105. These cans are much easier to drive and results were, as expected, very good. Plenty of volume and room to go higher.

I did a similar test with my Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 600 ohm phones. The BDP-105 had no problem driving these to high levels.


I am starting to think the sound quality of the head amp, at least to my tastes, is better than my Lavry DA10. The detail is winning me over.
 
#69 ·

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/60#post_22598882


If you are using the Front Left and Right outputs of the BDP-95 then you are using a non-stacked DAC configuration as these outputs are one DAC-channel per output-channel. DownMix has no affect on the stacking as this is a hardware, not software configuration.

On the BDP-95 when you are using the dedicated stereo or XLR outputs, regardless of the Stereo Signal (Audio Processing) setting, the player is using four DAC-channels per output-channel. These outputs are always DAC stacked.

On the BDP-105 you are getting one-DAC channel per output-channel regardless of the output, except for the headphone output, which is two DAC-channels per output-channel.

So is there a SQ benefit to set the FL + FR channels to downmix for stereo 2.0 material? An earlier poster said he heard more fullness/body using the 95 that way...
 
#70 ·
So I ordered a 105 a couple of days ago and I need some recommendations on how to handle digital audio from my PC Laptop. I don't know much about networks and servers but I want to use a large (2 Terabit) external drive to keep my music library on. Currently I have a wireless router with 4 x 10/100Mbit ethernet ports. I'm not sure if upgrading my router to 1G Ethernet capability will be of any benefit since it seems the Oppo is limied to 10/100 BaseT.


What is the best way to connect the Oppo? There seem to be many options and, since I'm new to the digital audio game, I'm not sure what the best options are:


1. I could connect the external hard drive to the PC (or Mac Mini if I decide to dedicate something tobeing a music server) and output via USB to the Oppo and use JRiver's (PC) remote software to control playback.


2. I could connect the Oppo to the router via ethernet (hardwired or wirelessly?) and then the Oppo can locate the music on the hard drive. Does this mean the hard drive would have to be a NAS set up on the same network the Oppo is connected to or would I connect the hard drive to the Oppo using USB?? At this point I believe I would need to use the Oppo menu system (on my TV) to locate and play music until they release a remote app, right?


From what I have learned so far, my plan is to use dbPoweramp to rip my CDs into FLAC format and store them on a large hard drive, then use JRiver to manage the library and download high res files from HDTracks, etc.


If someone has some recommendations on what computer hardware I need to make the best use of the 105, I would appreciate it.


What is the best type of hard drive and best connection methodology to the PC/Network/Oppo (NAS, Firewire, 1G Ethernet, USB)? Would somehting like this work:

http://www.synology.com/products/spec.php?product_name=DS411slim&lang=us#p_submenu


Does it need to be DNLA certified? Would having a DNLA wireless router like this be of any benefit?

http://homestore.cisco.com/en-us/Routers/Linksys-EA6500-App-Enabled-AC-Dual-Band-Wireless-Router-with-Gigabit_stcVVproductId148919965VVviewprod.htm


It seems like there is a lot of talk about upgrading PCs/Macs so that they provide superior low noise/jitter USB outputs to connect to outboard DACs. Does this come into play when using the Oppo's DAC? Would the low noise PC/Mac USB matter if I was using an outboard DAC connected to the Oppo via HDMI (I2S) with the Oppo acting as the music server?


I would appreciate any guidance!


Thanks
 
#71 ·
Received my 105 this afternon hooked it up and made sure HDMI and XLR were connected and functioning properly into the Classe SSP-800. I quickly compared HDMI to XLR and noticed some small sonic differences. Both connections have a wide soundstage in my system! I was correct in my assumption that the Oppo could replace my Ayre CX-7e as a CD player. Using the same interconnects and power cable used on the Ayre unit. Too early to begin serious listening I will have more time tomorrow to play with the Oppo. This is my first Oppo player, very impressive build of the player.
 
#72 ·

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Originally Posted by dmusoke  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598355


Franchot:


Thanx so much for taking the time to review the headphone amp of the 105. It seems my fears about the power of the headphone amp have been realized and they can't increase the power w/o changing a capacitor somewhere on the 2Ch board. I can imagine modders charging $100 to change a cap:cool: !


- David

David,


I don't want to give the impression that the 105 (with its power that's available) isn't capable of driving the Audeze headphones. It can, however there's little gas left in the tank during the journey.


I did some listening today with some remastered rock CDs (which are almost always remastered to sound louder) and the 105 stayed at a volume of 85 and the results were very satisfying. I'm not sure how "quieter" or classical music will fare with this combo, however.


Depending upon your tastes, the 105 (as is) might work for you. You already know about the 30 day money back guarantee, I'm sure.
 
#73 ·
So I'm a little confused with all this 'analog' and 'dedicated' stuff. I mean, I know where the connections are and all. I'm just not sure what if any settings in the setup menu affect the dedicated xlr or rca outs??.


I plan to send the xlr outs to my processor for cd's and stereo sacd music and leave the bass management to the processor. I want the signal sent out unaltered in stereo. So what setting should I use?? Is the ' Down mix' setting just for multi channel sacd and dvd-a recordings??

If you set the 105 to 'FR/FL' would it only play those 2 channels of a multi-channel sacd??


Do any of the settings affect the dedicated analog out's??


I read the manual, but it really needs to have a clearer description for the dedicated stereo outs vs the multi-channel analog outs settings.

Maybe its just me. If so would someone please enlighten me.


Tom


Edit-- Ok I just re-read the note on pg 16 of the manual. Apparently none of the settings in the Audio setup menu affect the dedicated stereo analog outs. Is that correct??
 
#74 ·

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Originally Posted by audiofan1  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/30#post_22598275


Do you guys use the 95's FL/FR option in the audio setup? if so set it to downmix and there will be more detail and tighter bass, If you guys would check this out that would be great:)


I assume this was using 2.0 stereo material correct? If so, and if there is indeed an improvement, it would be very interesting to compare the downmixed FL + FR outputs to the dedicated stereo outputs...
 
#75 ·

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Originally Posted by darkphader  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/60#post_22598720


Audio is behind the video. Even disc play is off but only by a bit, enough to be annoying as opposed to virtually unusable with ARC/Toslink feed. This is using the using the Stereo Outs w/stereo downmix directly driving the power amp.

This is a known issue (and much more) and was reported to Oppo. I was very surprised that Oppo released a $1200.00 with current FW.
 
#76 ·

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Originally Posted by vlach  /t/1439524/official-oppo-bdp-105-owners-thread/60#post_22598939


So is there a SQ benefit to set the FL + FR channels to downmix for stereo 2.0 material? An earlier poster said he heard more fullness/body using the 95 that way...

There shouldn't be. What I was trying to point out is that if you wanted to attempt to "emulate" the performance of the dedicated stereo outputs of the BDP-105, you can use the Front Left and Right analog outputs of the BDP-95 and set the DownMix to stereo.
 
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