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Hey guys sorry if this has been covered before but I haven't been here for a while. setup menu then audio processing,click on a/v sync,to your likening

I'm having lip sync issues with certain Blu-ray Disc that were fine before

Anyone having these issues?

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Hey guys sorry if this has been covered before but I haven't been here for a while.

I'm having lip sync issues with certain Blu-ray Disc that were fine before

Anyone having these issues?

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Setup menu,Audio processing,a/v sync,their ya go enjoy!
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If you have Rush's most recent concert video, there is a drum solo where the drums are individually tracked and the drum sound is largely FROM NEIL'S PERSPECTIVE. it sounds fantastic.

LW - Can you tell me what the name of the Rush concert video is your referring to? Thanks!
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Clockwork Angels is their most recent concert video and features three drum solos.

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Thanks! Just ordered it from Amazon... can't wait to listen to it!
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Hi. Just would like opinions on sound quality of 105 with analogue volume control output? Is it justify to add a passive or active volume control unit such as Goldpoint SA1. or will it make any different at all with good quality preamp. Thanks
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Hi. Just would like opinions on sound quality of 105 with analogue volume control output? Is it justify to add a passive or active volume control unit such as Goldpoint SA1. or will it make any different at all with good quality preamp. Thanks

The Analog outputs sound great when connected directly to my amp.
I would try that first. This switch works pretty well if you can use XLRs:

http://www.amazon.com/Kramer-Electronics-VS-4X/dp/B002MVYLX2/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1393472806&sr=8-2-fkmr2&keywords=kramer+xlr+switch

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I have been using a single source for all my listening in the past and present. Thats why I found it difficult to justify a preamp. I was thinking on those passive stepping volume such as this one "http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Passive-preamp-preamplifier-48-Stepped-attenuator-Highend-for-audiophiles-/121276258683?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item1c3ca0d97b" would make any different to sound quality to the already high quality of the 105.
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Hi. Just would like opinions on sound quality of 105 with analogue volume control output? Is it justify to add a passive or active volume control unit such as Goldpoint SA1. or will it make any different at all with good quality preamp. Thanks
Why do you want to add a volume control to the output of the 105? The 105 has an awesome, click-free volume control, internally controlled by the sabre dac chip. With this volume, there is no bit-loss of resolution of your playback media even on its lowest setting of 1. Each step of the 105's volume represents 1/2 db.
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Thanks Dan and Rich for the advice. Im quite happy with what I hear connecting 105 XLR to Focal twin6 be, which I believe the purest possible from cd to speaker.
Its just one of those audio thing that I read and lookup some of the products and claims, and some have great reviews and thinking could those preamp improve of what I already got or simply waster of money and it might even sound worst. Cheers
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I have noted that a few prefer to use an analog preamp for volume control (JC2 for a TAS reviewer for one) for SQ but the majority have preferred the 105 straight to the amps for best SQ. It is a subjective world.

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Hi. Just would like opinions on sound quality of 105 with analogue volume control output? Is it justify to add a passive or active volume control unit such as Goldpoint SA1. or will it make any different at all with good quality preamp. Thanks

The 105 has a digital volume control.

I run my 105 directly to an amp.

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I have noted that a few prefer to use an analog preamp for volume control (JC2 for a TAS reviewer for one) for SQ but the majority have preferred the 105 straight to the amps for best SQ. It is a subjective world.


The only way a volume control could "improve" audio quality (over a direct to power amp set up) is if it induces distortion that someone finds pleasing. I doubt the opinion of anyone that says a volume control or preamp placed between the dedicated Oppo audio outs and a power amplifier could be an "improvement" (outside of inducing pleasing distortion as I've said), unless when the Oppo's volume is set to 100, it is somehow TOTALLY removed from the signal path. I'm assuming that since it's part of the DAC, that's not the case. TAS reviewer or not, I'm not buying it. It's the old accuracy vs. "better," or "good distortion" argument. Sorry for resurrecting it, but I couldn't resist. I'll move on now.
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I have noted that a few prefer to use an analog preamp for volume control (JC2 for a TAS reviewer for one) for SQ but the majority have preferred the 105 straight to the amps for best SQ. It is a subjective world.

For me, the major consideration is that going directly from the Oppo to the amps precludes the use of sources other than what the Oppo can accept.

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For me, the major consideration is that going directly from the Oppo to the amps precludes the use of sources other than what the Oppo can accept.

And no Audyssey.

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And no Audyssey.

A lot of people who use Audessey (or YPAO or MCACC or...) almost always adjust things AFTER the software has run to suit their personal taste.

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A lot of people who use Audessey (or YPAO or MCACC or...) almost always adjust things AFTER the software has run to suit their personal taste.
Ok - and the point is? Manually tweaking the settings in Audessey (or MCACC, or YPAO) after going through an automatic calibration to get "close" does not turn these capabilities off. And while the facilities built into the Oppo may be sufficient for some users, they come nowhere near to what the more advanced versions of Audessey and MCACC can do.

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Ok - and the point is? Manually tweaking the settings in Audessey (or MCACC, or YPAO) after going through an automatic calibration to get "close" does not turn these capabilities off. And while the facilities built into the Oppo may be sufficient for some users, they come nowhere near to what the more advanced versions of Audessey and MCACC can do.

I know the manual adjustments that are in the Audio Processing of the OPPO is not going to be as accurate as the other Automatic Room Correction (ARC) software. However, IF OPPO does put an ARC on it's future players, guess what's going to happen to threads like this? "It set my fronts to 100Hz. What do I do? My sub is at -12 and I can't hear it." And on and on. I do predict that more people will have problems with it than it will be the price of admission.

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I have been using a single source for all my listening in the past and present. Thats why I found it difficult to justify a preamp. I was thinking on those passive stepping volume such as this one "http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Passive-preamp-preamplifier-48-Stepped-attenuator-Highend-for-audiophiles-/121276258683?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item1c3ca0d97b" would make any different to sound quality to the already high quality of the 105.

 

As others have said that you don't need it but it sure looks pretty! A visit to their website (http://www.akustyk.com) even reveals more gorgeous looking ones, including a balanced version.


How to phase match subwoofers to the mains speakers: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post19542630
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Yes I was refering to the Balanced unit. It looks very tempting at a very low audiophile price.
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Got a question, if Im going to run my oppo105 as 2.1, stereo XLR to active speakers and the adjacent stereo RCA pair connect to the active subwoofer, sub with the usual xover, level control and phase switch, is this going to half the output signals? or Is this the ultimate connection instead of connecting the sub via a multi-channel sub output? Thankyou
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Got a question, if Im going to run my oppo105 as 2.1, stereo XLR to active speakers and the adjacent stereo RCA pair connect to the active subwoofer, sub with the usual xover, level control and phase switch, is this going to half the output signals? or Is this the ultimate connection instead of connecting the sub via a multi-channel sub output? Thankyou

XLR Outputs are +6db hotter than the RCA Outputs. You will need to compensate one way or the other.

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All lip sync issues solved for me with latest firmware update. No adjustments needed with blu rays, amazon instant video sent via airplay to my apple tv, or with directv.

Before the update my audio delay was maxed with blu ray discs & I couldn't delay the video enough with amazon videos sent by airplay to my apple tv.

Now everything is synced perfectly. Finally!

Though I have just picked up a processor for my other HDMI sources it really isn't needed, I could have jet kept my DVDO iScan Duo and been happy,,, but I enjoy the surround processing that I am getting with my Anthem.

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Ok - and the point is? Manually tweaking the settings in Audessey (or MCACC, or YPAO) after going through an automatic calibration to get "close" does not turn these capabilities off. And while the facilities built into the Oppo may be sufficient for some users, they come nowhere near to what the more advanced versions of Audessey and MCACC can do.

The distortion added by the components processing the sound through Audessey is a negative so if you're properly setup in a decent room with decent treatment you're better off running directly to amps. Built in Audessey or equivalent on the next oppo would be a very attractive feature that would make me do another upgrade.

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Thanks Dan and Rich for the advice. Im quite happy with what I hear connecting 105 XLR to Focal twin6 be, which I believe the purest possible from cd to speaker. Its just one of those audio thing that I read and lookup some of the products and claims, and some have great reviews and thinking could those preamp improve of what I already got or simply waster of money and it might even sound worst. Cheers

Sweet I love those speakers great set up, pictures please wink.gif. Where did you buy your speakers
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The distortion added by the components processing the sound through Audessey is a negative so if you're properly setup in a decent room with decent treatment you're better off running directly to amps. Built in Audessey or equivalent on the next oppo would be a very attractive feature that would make me do another upgrade.

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Got a question, if Im going to run my oppo105 as 2.1, stereo XLR to active speakers and the adjacent stereo RCA pair connect to the active subwoofer, sub with the usual xover, level control and phase switch, is this going to half the output signals? or Is this the ultimate connection instead of connecting the sub via a multi-channel sub output? Thankyou

XLR Outputs are +6db hotter than the RCA Outputs. You will need to compensate one way or the other.

 

This compensation should happen in the active speaker and then both should sound equal. But if not, then simply raise the gain of your sub manually or via the trims in the Oppo. The trims only work for MCH outputs.

 

To simply things, wny not run a 2.1 setup from the MCH outputs only? The XLR and MCH outs use the same high resolution ESS9018 DACs so the audio difference between is non-existent. Your speakers and amps produce far more and far far worse distortion than the Oppo outputs ever will.

 

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This compensation should happen in the active speaker and then both should sound equal. But if not, then simply raise the gain of your sub manually or via the trims in the Oppo. The trims only work for MCH outputs.

To simply things, wny not run a 2.1 setup from the MCH outputs only? The XLR and MCH outs use the same high resolution ESS9018 DACs so the audio difference between is non-existent. Your speakers and amps produce far more and far far worse distortion than the Oppo outputs ever will.

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"Kind of Blue" has been released in about every hi-res format at one time or another, but always in stereo: high quality 180 gram vinyl, DVD-A, SACD and 24/96 and 24/192 downloads. They'll be re-releasing this for the next 50 years.

Actually, "Kind of Blue" has been released at least three times on multichannel SACD. I have this JSACD version and the 5.1 (and 2.0) high-res audio is spectacular:

http://sa-cd.net/showtitle/4866

This version, by contrast, is only 5.0 (and IMO inferior to the JSACD):

http://sa-cd.net/showtitle/644

There is also this version, which I think has the same 5.0 mix as the above (but adds a CD layer):

http://sa-cd.net/showtitle/1543
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Actually, "Kind of Blue" has been released at least three times on multichannel SACD. I have this JSACD version and the 5.1 (and 2.0) high-res audio is spectacular:

http://sa-cd.net/showtitle/4866

This version, by contrast, is only 5.0 (and IMO inferior to the JSACD):

http://sa-cd.net/showtitle/644

There is also this version, which I think has the same 5.0 mix as the above (but adds a CD layer):

http://sa-cd.net/showtitle/1543

Talk about multiple dipping !
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