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^ The HDMI Inputs do not accept DSD. They also don't accept TrueHD or DTS-HD MA Bitstreams. They DO accept LPCM up to 7.1 and 192KHz, as well as traditional DD and DTS Bitstreams (including DD+).
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This is a welcome addition as part of the latest firmware upgrade.
Your post seems to be missing some context - what is the "this" that you're referring to?
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^ He's talking about the Berliner Philharmoniker Digital Concert Hall app in the new firmware. The post body was copied from a new thread he started by mistake.
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I just have to say that the surround sound and sound in general since the last firmware update is greatly implroved! I only wish that I had waited to purchase the 105D instead of being an early adopter and getting the 105 when it first came out. I do use a Darbee so I do not feel that I am missing out too much on the video front but I wish that my 105 would accept 24-bit, 352.8 kHz / 384 kHz.
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^ The HDMI Inputs do not accept DSD. They also don't accept TrueHD or DTS-HD MA Bitstreams. They DO accept LPCM up to 7.1 and 192KHz, as well as traditional DD and DTS Bitstreams (including DD+).
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Bob, one more question regarding the HDMI input: Can it be set-up for WASAPI event (pull)? In Foobar, I get an error message when I set it for WASAPI Event, but it works fine with WASAPI push. Not sure if this error is due to some set-up in my computer (Foobar set-up?) or if the Oppo can't pull via HDMI input.

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^ The OPPO can not "pull" via the HDMI Inputs -- no browsing or outbound remote control for example. It does support Audio Return Channel on the HDMI OUTPUTS, but I don't see how you could use that.
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^ The OPPO can not "pull" via the HDMI Inputs -- no browsing or outbound remote control for example. It does support Audio Return Channel on the HDMI OUTPUTS, but I don't see how you could use that.
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You just saved me from hours of frustration trying to make that work - thinking it's some setting in Foobar or something wrong with my HTPC. Thanks!

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^ If you want to pull content use the network media files capabilities. Both SMB and DLNA servers are supported. No HDMI Input into the OPPO is needed.
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^ If you want to pull content use the network media files capabilities. Both SMB and DLNA servers are supported. No HDMI Input into the OPPO is needed.
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I had tried UPNP and controlling it through my Android phone and my HTPC (Foobar's UPNP plug-in). The problem is that I like the visual effects of Foobar, such as showing album art cover, seeing the dancing lights, etc. The playlists get funky as well with Foobar's UPNP plugin. With UPNP, none of these features work. Then I tried Android's Bubble UPNP and found it difficult as it couldn't sort. I also like using a computer better since it's so much more configurable in managing files (I have about 500 Gigs of music files and rapidly growing).

I really hope Oppo's next unit will have more capabilities through it's asynchronous USB inputs (such as multichannel). I think that's the ultimate solution. In the meantime, I'm gonna revisit UPNP and HTPC/Foobar. Maybe I just didn't spend enough time with it.

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My problem is not the Oppo, it is my projector failing. It does not receive hdmi-signals from any source any more.
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^ The HDMI Inputs do not accept DSD. They also don't accept TrueHD or DTS-HD MA Bitstreams. They DO accept LPCM up to 7.1 and 192KHz, as well as traditional DD and DTS Bitstreams (including DD+).
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Does this mean that when I stream from my PS3 to my 105D, the PS3 will not be able bistream full audio resolution from Netflix and Amazon (assuming they support TrueHD and MA...not sure if they do or not), or other sources?

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^ No. Set the PS3 to LPCM output and it will decode any high bit-rate Bitstream tracks it supports into high bit-rate, multi-channel LPCM -- which the 10x OPPO players will accept just fine on their HDMI Inputs.
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^ No. Set the PS3 to LPCM output and it will decode any high bit-rate Bitstream tracks it supports into high bit-rate, multi-channel LPCM -- which the 10x OPPO players will accept just fine on their HDMI Inputs.
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^ And none of the streaming services support the lossless DTS HD Master Audio / Dolby True HD at this time.
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Yeah, the best you are going to get on Netflix and VUDU is Dolby Digital Plus 48k (VUDU supports up to 7.1 channels; when Netflix content lists support for "5.1" I've found it's almost always DD+ 5.1).

There is no way that I know of to check this on the 105 when running the native apps for those steraming services; you can, however, check it by streaming from an outside source in bitstream and using the Oppo remote "info" key.

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I'm wondering if any of you guys have the media control app 2.04 .ipa file for ios they can send me? I dont have it backed up on itunes. I am using 2.05 and i find it way more buggy.


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^ iOS version 2.0.4 of the Media Control app wouldn't even run properly for me when interfacing with the latest 10x firmware. I was very glad that 2.0.5 was released. It's very stable for me, and tracks in a given media directory play back in alphanumerical order now. That bug plagued the app ever since its inception. Not any more!
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I have problems with directorys appearing empty sometimes, only one track playing and sometimes freezing mid track. The screen saver now freezes and when I play video after that I get a blank screen. latest firmware latest app.Can I reinstall the firmware maybe?


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^ Do you have "Cached Media Info" in the Device Setup turned ON? If so, try deleting a folder in the top level directory of your usb drive called "OPPO_Media_info". There may be some corruption in that folder causing the strange behavior. If you leave "cashed media info" on, your player will regenerate a new "OPPO_Media_info" directory. See if that corrects any of your issues.
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I forgot to mention I am playing files off a networked windows box using SMB


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Can anyone tell me if there are discernable, noticeable differences in terms of video quality between the 105 and the original BDP-83? I'm connected strictly via HDMI for audio and video transfer, and the system in question isn't utilizing any analog outs for audio -- I also play a lot of standard DVDs on my 83 and love the way the Anchor Bay chip upscales them to 1080p on my Sony SXRD display...are there any differences I would experience going to the 105?

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Can anyone tell me if there are discernable, noticeable differences in terms of video quality between the 105 and the original BDP-83? I'm connected strictly via HDMI for audio and video transfer, and the system in question isn't utilizing any analog outs for audio -- I also play a lot of standard DVDs on my 83 and love the way the Anchor Bay chip upscales them to 1080p on my Sony SXRD display...are there any differences I would experience going to the 105?

Differences: yes, although which is better is going to be a matter of personal taste.

Me: I think the ABT solution used in the 983H and BDP-83 was the ultimate for DVD quality. But I could live with any of the OPPO players and be happy. We're talking very slight differences these days. Even the Mediatek processing which all the players use has improved to the extent that it provides a fine image on its own, without additional video processing.

Upgrading to a new player brings in other features, of course. If you are not using analog audio then you would save money by selecting the -103 rather than the -105. There are also the "D" models which add Darbee processing, a new wrinkle not available before.

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^ Sounds like you are using the Dedicated Stereo Analog jacks in lieu of the normal LF/RF jacks of the multi-channel Analog set, but have accidentally set Stereo Signal = DOWN-MIXED STEREO.

Simply set Stereo Signal = FRONT LEFT/RIGHT to fix this.
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Yup ...you were right again. Kinda feel silly now.

 

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Thanks Bill,

So there ARE somewhat discernable differences between these decks and the 83, huh? Even using just HDMI (digital) out for EVERYTHING? I agree about the Anchor Bay chip's DVD performance, which we use our 83 for routinely, so this would be a big factor for us...do you think the processors in the new OPPOs make DVDs look THAT much better upconverted? And what about Blu-ray performance...should the 103 or 105 make Blu-rays look better than on the 83?

With regard to the DARBEE editions -- I have been curious about these for some time; do these editions add on more powerful noise reduction circuits and the like?

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Thanks Bill,

So there ARE somewhat discernable differences between these decks and the 83, huh? Even using just HDMI (digital) out for EVERYTHING?

Yes, understanding that discernible is in the same neighborhood as negligible.
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I agree about the Anchor Bay chip's DVD performance, which we use our 83 for routinely, so this would be a big factor for us...do you think the processors in the new OPPOs make DVDs look THAT much better upconverted?

Better than the 983H or BDP-83? No.
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And what about Blu-ray performance...should the 103 or 105 make Blu-rays look better than on the 83?

I was speaking of DVD performance, which oddly enough takes more craft than Blu-ray, which will be more similar across players.
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With regard to the DARBEE editions -- I have been curious about these for some time; do these editions add on more powerful noise reduction circuits and the like?

No, Darbee is entirely different than traditional noise reduction or sharpening. It modifies the luminance of each pixel to increase perceived contrast.

It's a big topic. See the first post in the BDP-103D thread for links, also the Darblet thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet

When used properly Darbee is a very subtle effect. The better the source the better the effect, and it is especially popular among front projector owners. I like messing with it, but could live without it.

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What Bill said. I've got a 105, bought before the 105D was released, and I also have a Darblet so I can get Darbee processing if I want to though I've stopped using it at present. As Bill says, it's a subtle effect, at least unless you ramp the settings up too high. I can live without it and I usually watch things with all my settings at 0, rarely adding any processing. If I were buying a machine now, however, I think I'd choose the 105D over the 105 because I'd be more likely to use Darbee processing than the QDEO processing options in the 105 plus the 105D offers some slight audio processing advantages for audiophiles. They're small differences, I sometimes wonder whether they justify the difference in cost though a 105D is definitely cheaper than my 105 + Darblet combination, but if I were buying a current model now I'd probably opt for a Darbee version rather than the non-Darbee version of whichever model I chose. I have no desire to replace my 105 with a 105D.
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Yes, understanding that discernible is in the same neighborhood as negligible.

Wait -- are you saying I would see a difference, even digitally forwarding signals via HDMI, between the 83's performance and the 103/105?
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Better than the 983H or BDP-83? No.

What do you mean? The 103/105s WOULDN'T look "better" than the 83 in terms of DVD upconversion?
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I was speaking of DVD performance, which oddly enough takes more craft than Blu-ray, which will be more similar across players.

Yes, this I know...biggrin.gif

It's all about the scaling for DVD, which isn't the same across all devices unfortunately...
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No, Darbee is entirely different than traditional noise reduction or sharpening. It modifies the luminance of each pixel to increase perceived contrast.

It's a big topic. See the first post in the BDP-103D thread for links, also the Darblet thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet

When used properly Darbee is a very subtle effect. The better the source the better the effect, and it is especially popular among front projector owners. I like messing with it, but could live without it.

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What Bill said. I've got a 105, bought before the 105D was released, and I also have a Darblet so I can get Darbee processing if I want to though I've stopped using it at present. As Bill says, it's a subtle effect, at least unless you ramp the settings up too high. I can live without it and I usually watch things with all my settings at 0, rarely adding any processing. If I were buying a machine now, however, I think I'd choose the 105D over the 105 because I'd be more likely to use Darbee processing than the QDEO processing options in the 105 plus the 105D offers some slight audio processing advantages for audiophiles. They're small differences, I sometimes wonder whether they justify the difference in cost though a 105D is definitely cheaper than my 105 + Darblet combination, but if I were buying a current model now I'd probably opt for a Darbee version rather than the non-Darbee version of whichever model I chose. I have no desire to replace my 105 with a 105D.

I, too, keep all "video settings" of my 83 at "0" except for noise reduction (I have this at "+4" per OPPO's recommendation when I asked them about it)...

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Wait -- are you saying I would see a difference, even digitally forwarding signals via HDMI, between the 83's performance and the 103/105?

Sure, they have different video processors. To the extent you can turn off video processing they will be the same.
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Yes, the wouldn't look better.

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I have an 83 SE and a 105 and I honestly can't tell the difference between the two for DVD.

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