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If not having an app that exists when you buy the player is unacceptable, then don't buy the player and buy another product that has the apps you want. If a new app comes along AFTER you buy the player, Oppo has made no promises to add new apps, so I don't see how that can possibly be unacceptable. None of us knows for sure why Tidal hasn't been (and possibly won't be) added, but if Tidal won't work with Oppo (just as an example - we do know this is why Oppo doesn't have an Amazon app) then there's nothing Oppo can do.

Adding an app may be (relatively) simple from a technology point of view, but these things require licensing agreements and getting 2 companies to work together, which often are not so simple.
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Not to mention that in some cases the decision about whether or not to support the app on the Oppo does not rest solely with Oppo. Most of the time, it is the content provider who writes the app and often it is the content provider who decides whether it is worth the trouble to adapt the app to a given platform. Finally, we have no visibility into what, if any, other licensing fees or other weirdness is involved.

Net: taking a dump on Oppo or any other manufacturer for not supporting a given content provider is incredibly naive.
You can calm down guys, I was being flippant because I was in a bad mood dealing with JRivers.

I assure you guys, I understand about licenses and strategic alliances. My naivete is full blow at times but not here.

I love Oppo, and my 105. I have posted previous and with passion, it is my fav piece of equipment ever. The company impresses the heck out of me too.

BTW, I was really addressing Tidal not Oppo.

Seems to me the onus is on them to make their product easily accessed. I don't have Tidal for just this reason.

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Not to mention that in some cases the decision about whether or not to support the app on the Oppo does not rest solely with Oppo. Most of the time, it is the content provider who writes the app and often it is the content provider who decides whether it is worth the trouble to adapt the app to a given platform. Finally, we have no visibility into what, if any, other licensing fees or other weirdness is involved.

Net: taking a dump on Oppo or any other manufacturer for not supporting a given content provider is incredibly naive.
That's what I meant with the example of Amazon.
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Hi all,
I'm trying to ARC feed my 105's ARC hdmi1 out from a new Samsung 8550; specifically streaming Amazon prime HD movie. NO Audio! Should I resort to optical feed from tv to oppo?
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Hi all,
I'm trying to ARC feed my 105's ARC hdmi1 out from a new Samsung 8550; specifically streaming Amazon prime HD movie. NO Audio! Should I resort to optical feed from tv to oppo?
The optical feed will sound better than the arc.
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Hi all,
I'm trying to ARC feed my 105's ARC hdmi1 out from a new Samsung 8550; specifically streaming Amazon prime HD movie. NO Audio! Should I resort to optical feed from tv to oppo?
The TV will have a specific HDMI port that supports ARC.

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You are sorely mistaken about the optical being better. ...optical can only do 5.1...alot of streaming services are using DD+ and DTS that is 7.1 surround sound that cam only be transmitted thru hdmi..you have to make sure that you select the arc input on the oppo that has the cable connected to it and that you are connected to the correct input on your TV that has arc support and then that in the settings on your tv you have it set to the digital sound you want
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You are sorely mistaken about the optical being better. ...optical can only do 5.1...alot of streaming services are using DD+ and DTS that is 7.1 surround sound that cam only be transmitted thru hdmi..
Dolby Digital Plus yes... But I'm not aware of any streaming service that currently offers DTS. And I'm also not aware of any streaming service that has offered Dolby Digital Plus with 7.1 channels!

There are a few DVB-T2 services within the EU who are using Dolby Digital Plus instead of AAC-LC or HE-AAC, but again I'm not aware of any that have offered Dolby Digital Plus with 7.1 channels. Which is a great shame because many Smart TV's offer on-board Dolby Digital Plus decoders.


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You are sorely mistaken about the optical being better. ...optical can only do 5.1...alot of streaming services are using DD+ and DTS that is 7.1 surround sound that cam only be transmitted thru hdmi..you have to make sure that you select the arc input on the oppo that has the cable connected to it and that you are connected to the correct input on your TV that has arc support and then that in the settings on your tv you have it set to the digital sound you want
My ears do not deceive me-the arc sound is off.

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You are sorely mistaken about the optical being better. ...optical can only do 5.1...alot of streaming services are using DD+ and DTS that is 7.1 surround sound that cam only be transmitted thru hdmi..
Dolby Digital Plus yes... But I'm not aware of any streaming service that currently offers DTS. And I'm also not aware of any streaming service that has offered Dolby Digital Plus with 7.1 channels!

There are a few DVB-T2 services within the EU who are using Dolby Digital Plus instead of AAC-LC or HE-AAC, but again I'm not aware of any that have offered Dolby Digital Plus with 7.1 channels. Which is a great shame because many Smart TV's offer on-board Dolby Digital Plus decoders.


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I guess that you have never heard of Vudu?
It it's hdx has titles with 7.1 and CinemaNow uses DTS and MGO is switching over to DTS
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You are sorely mistaken about the optical being better. ...optical can only do 5.1...alot of streaming services are using DD+ and DTS that is 7.1 surround sound that cam only be transmitted thru hdmi..you have to make sure that you select the arc input on the oppo that has the cable connected to it and that you are connected to the correct input on your TV that has arc support and then that in the settings on your tv you have it set to the digital sound you want
My ears do not deceive me-the arc sound is off.
That should not be the case. ARC is more restrictive than "normal" HDMI audio, but it can carry the same stuff you can get from the TV on Optical so long as the TV itself isn't restricting things.

Check your TV settings to make sure it is not set to send a Stereo down mix for ARC.
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Below is an email I just sent to Oppo. The Auto Resume feature on my 105D is really annoying me!

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I have a question on they way the Auto Resume feature is working on my 105D. If I stop a CD/SACD and power the player off then power it back up playback resumes without hitting the play button. I do not recall the Auto Resume feature working with earlier FW versions with my 103. I listened to an SACD last night and it played through completely then the 105D went to the Home menu. This morning when I powered up the 105D the SACD started playing from the beginning without hitting play. I do not understand why playback would start on its own when there was no resume spot as the SACD played to the end. I have the Auto Play feature off. I don't like to complain but the way the Auto Resume feature is now working is very annoying. I like to turn on my system let it warm up then start playback when I hit play. I would very much appreciate it if Oppo could look at revising the Auto Resume feature so it only works when the play button is used. Thank you for your time!

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I guess that you have never heard of Vudu?
It it's hdx has titles with 7.1 and CinemaNow uses DTS and MGO is switching over to DTS
Sadly, the last time I checked, the VuDu and CinemaNow services did not function for us UK Oppo owners

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Hello All,

I have an Oppo BDP-105D, I recently purchased a logitech "livingroom" K830. I am able to move through menus and select letter from onscreen "keyboard" in the youtube app of the Oppo but can not type in the search window. Anyone have experience with this?
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You are sorely mistaken about the optical being better. ...optical can only do 5.1...alot of streaming services are using DD+ and DTS that is 7.1 surround sound that cam only be transmitted thru hdmi..you have to make sure that you select the arc input on the oppo that has the cable connected to it and that you are connected to the correct input on your TV that has arc support and then that in the settings on your tv you have it set to the digital sound you want
My ears do not deceive me-the arc sound is off.
That should not be the case. ARC is more restrictive than "normal" HDMI audio, but it can carry the same stuff you can get from the TV on Optical so long as the TV itself isn't restricting things.

Check your TV settings to make sure it is not set to send a Stereo down mix for ARC.
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So your saying that optical/coax isn't restricted to 6 channel audio anymore?
Since when? Why does Dolby and DTS bother and every tv manufacturer I have ever heard of claim that HDMI is the best quality audio connection?
I am very interested in this if you can tell me where I'm going wrong....I'm open to learning more about electronics it's always changing these days
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^ What I said was that if the TV can send it out over Optical, then it can also send it out over ARC.
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^ What I said was that if the TV can send it out over Optical, then it can also send it out over ARC.
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OK Sorry, I misunderstood I had what you said flipped around, I thought you were saying optical was better than hdmi and could do 8 channel, I apologize profusely
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Integra DHC 80.1 & Oppo

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I am running the Oppo 105D 5.1 multi channel out into my Integra DHC 80.1. How do I know if I am hearing the Oppo's DAC's or the Integra's DAC's

Do I need to mess with the settings?

Thanks in advance
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I am running the Oppo 105D 5.1 multi channel out into my Integra DHC 80.1. How do I know if I am hearing the Oppo's DAC's or the Integra's DAC's

Do I need to mess with the settings?

Thanks in advance
Well, the 105D's analog outputs are the product of its DAC's (Digital to Analog Converters), so the big question is what is your Pre-Pro doing to this nice Oppo analog signal? It could possibly be converting the analog signal to digital (i.e. Audyssey room correction), then back to analog using its own DAC's, which would defeat the benefit of the 105D's DACs. Basically, you can't be doing any digital signal processing in your Pre-Pro (you need a straight pass-thru of the analog signal) to hear the 105D's DACs.
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