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post #12691 of 12904 Old 03-28-2015, 09:43 PM
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Yeh, you nailed it Bob - using the 105 input! ... doh ...

Got it on bitstream & later will compare that to pcm + see if there's much difference between the mytek vs oppo dac chips for redbook.
Glad you got it working, but I think you are confused about what's going on here.

The content on a CD is stereo LPCM -- Digital audio. So the output on the Optical or Coax will ALWAYS be stereo LPCM when playing a CD, regardless of whether you have Bitstream set or not for those outputs.

The Bitstream vs LPCM choice only applies when the content is a Bitstream (DD or DTS). I.e., does it get sent out still as a Bitstream or is it decoded into LPCM first?

Also, LPCM is a form of Digital audio. The DACs in the OPPO are never involved when listening to the Digital outputs of the player -- HDMI, Optical, or Coax.

The DACs -- Digital to Analog Converters -- are only involved when listening to the ANALOG outputs of the player.
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Another justified correction! ... & I'd already anticipated that response as I was sitting listening just after I sent that bit of confusion ... how many zillion cds have I ripped to pcm on my hd ...

That comparison of dac chips is going thru the same analog preamp & amp from respective mytek & oppo, so I was at least on top of that!

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Well it turns out the issue isn't with the 105D but with my Harmony 688 remote. I tried powering up the 105D with the supplied Oppo remote and playback did not start on power up. Then I powered the 105D down and powered it back up with the 688 and playback starts on power up. I tried a few tweaks to the 688 so the 105D would not start playback on power up but no luck so far. I'll either post in the remote sub forum or contact Harmony/Logitech.
I was able to tweak the 688 so playback doesn't start automatically . It took multiple attempts and the Harmony software crashing but it's done. Harmony's customer service is pretty much useless unless you want to pay for it . I had to adjust the power up timing sequence from 25,000 ms to 1000 ms and that did it. So now on power up the 105D goes directly to the Home page and not playback. I emailed Oppo to let them know it was my Harmony remote and not the 105D. They responded early this morning with this message.

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We are glad to hear that you have isolated the cause of the errors to your remote control, rather than the player.
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Well it turns out the issue isn't with the 105D but with my Harmony 688 remote. I tried powering up the 105D with the supplied Oppo remote and playback did not start on power up. Then I powered the 105D down and powered it back up with the 688 and playback starts on power up. I tried a few tweaks to the 688 so the 105D would not start playback on power up but no luck so far. I'll either post in the remote sub forum or contact Harmony/Logitech.

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Color me skeptical. I don't have a Harmony anything and my 105 does the same thing.

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I was able to tweak the 688 so playback doesn't start automatically . It took multiple attempts and the Harmony software crashing but it's done. Harmony's customer service is pretty much useless unless you want to pay for it . I had to adjust the power up timing sequence from 25,000 ms to 1000 ms and that did it. So now on power up the 105D goes directly to the Home page and not playback. I emailed Oppo to let them know it was my Harmony remote and not the 105D. They responded early this morning with this message.



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you sure that had to do with the Harmony remote?

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Color me skeptical. I don't have a Harmony anything and my 105 does the same thing.
You can be any colored anyway you wish but the problem was caused by the Harmony remote . Maybe you didn't read my previous post close enough. When the Oppo remote was used the 105D didn't start playback till the play button was pressed. As soon as I used the 688 for power up the 105D started playing after boot up.

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you sure that had to do with the Harmony remote?
What's with the ? Yes I'm sure as I powered up the 105D 5-6 times with the 688 after tweaking the timing and it didn't start playing once. Happy now ?

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Color me skeptical. I don't have a Harmony anything and my 105 does the same thing.
Check that you have recent firmware and that you are not confusing the Auto Play and the Auto Resume settings.

Turn Auto Play ON and then back OFF again and test again in case you have some sort of settings corruption.
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You can be any colored anyway you wish but the problem was caused by the Harmony remote . Maybe you didn't read my previous post close enough. When the Oppo remote was used the 105D didn't start playback till the play button was pressed. As soon as I used the 688 for power up the 105D started playing after boot up.



What's with the ? Yes I'm sure as I powered up the 105D 5-6 times with the 688 after tweaking the timing and it didn't start playing once. Happy now ?

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I like to listen to music while I watch basketball or football. Baseball I haven't watched 35 years so that's a none issue. Soccer I'll watch either way but if my daughter is watching a game with me I have to listen to the soccer broadcasters.

I hope Duke wins this game, it would be ridiculous to not have a team from the best conference in the country in the final 4.
What does the above have to do with the 105 or your earlier posts about the Harmony remote and the 105?

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Netflix and the 105?

I don't use Netflix very much but noticed the last two movies I watched (Shooter and Rain Man) had an odd intermittent crackling noise. Would this be an issue with Netflix or the application with the 105? I use a wired connection from my PC. Thanks for any thoughts on this .


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What does the above have to do with the 105 or your earlier posts about the Harmony remote and the 105?

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So I guess that post would be as many refer to as "trolling" . At least in the future I know what I'm dealing with .

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So I guess that post would be as many refer to as "trolling" . At least in the future I know what I'm dealing with .

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no Billie, that was trying to make peace with a thin skinned poster

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no Billie, that was trying to make peace with a thin skinned poster

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Wow . You posted earlier basically doubting my findings and when I posted that it was factual you post something totally off topic. Then I gave my opinion of that post. Then you post the above. Thin skinned not in the least. But it seems someone else might be . At least I was able to correct the playback issues with my 105D all on my own . So yes I'm quite happy. Rock on brother, I'm outta here .

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Wow . You posted earlier basically doubting my findings and when I posted that it was factual you post something totally off topic. Then I gave my opinion of that post. Then you post the above. Thin skinned not in the least. But it seems someone else might be . At least I was able to correct the playback issues with my 105D all on my own . So yes I'm quite happy. Rock on brother, I'm outta here .

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Billie, I questioned your findings and you became insulted.

When I realized that simply not accepting your assertion at face value had bothered you I changed the subject to avoid any more comfortableness as I like you and your posts. When you did not let it go I told you how it was. Now drop it.

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I don't use Netflix very much but noticed the last two movies I watched (Shooter and Rain Man) had an odd intermittent crackling noise. Would this be an issue with Netflix or the application with the 105? I use a wired connection from my PC. Thanks for any thoughts on this .


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It's tough to tell with Netflix. They have any number of crufty title transfers in their catalog.

If you have a time code where this is always heard, you could email OPPO and they could see if they can spot what's going on. You could also tell Netflix, but they are not likely to be all that responsive on a report like this.

If you feel like experimenting, compare Analog audio, HDMI LPCM audio, and HDMI Bitstream audio and see if you can find a difference.
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Question for you Bob,
what format for streaming video to the oppo work's? I'm having trouble getting it to work and I've tried every format combination that JRIVER has.
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It's tough to tell with Netflix. They have any number of crufty title transfers in their catalog.

If you have a time code where this is always heard, you could email OPPO and they could see if they can spot what's going on. You could also tell Netflix, but they are not likely to be all that responsive on a report like this.

If you feel like experimenting, compare Analog audio, HDMI LPCM audio, and HDMI Bitstream audio and see if you can find a difference.
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Bob,

Thanks for the suggestions . I'll replay Rain Main and make note of the times when the distortion/noise takes place. I'll try HDMI LPCM and HDMI Bitstream to see if there is any difference. Not using the 5.1 analog connection so I can't try that.

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Question for you Bob,
what format for streaming video to the oppo work's? I'm having trouble getting it to work and I've tried every format combination that JRIVER has.
I'm not the one to ask about that, as I play shiny discs. Perhaps someone else will chime in here with advice.

I suggest you start with the Media Files discussion in the FAQ (link at the top of the first post of this thread), to get the list of container file formats and contained audio and video media codecs that are supported. Keep in mind that the video has to be in a resolution and frame rate the player can handle, and frequently problems are due to the settings in the tool you used to make the file.
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I'm not the one to ask about that, as I play shiny discs. Perhaps someone else will chime in here with advice.

I suggest you start with the Media Files discussion in the FAQ (link at the top of the first post of this thread), to get the list of container file formats and contained audio and video media codecs that are supported. Keep in mind that the video has to be in a resolution and frame rate the player can handle, and frequently problems are due to the settings in the tool you used to make the file.
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I would echo that last statement. My Oppo plays just about ALMOST every video container format I throw at it BUT I use the OPPO to 'pull' the file from its storage location (USB hard drive or NAS) and render the file. I have not been able to 'Push' (play video files using JRiver on a PC across my network to the Oppo) and I don't have the patience or the unlimited time to figure it out beyond the things I have already tried. My only goals were to be able to browse my files where they reside and be able to play them without issues. Both of those have been accomplished without using JRiver.
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So your saying jriver might be the issue...what about kodi?
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I would echo that last statement. My Oppo plays just about ALMOST every video container format I throw at it BUT I use the OPPO to 'pull' the file from its storage location (USB hard drive or NAS) and render the file. I have not been able to 'Push' (play video files using JRiver on a PC across my network to the Oppo) and I don't have the patience or the unlimited time to figure it out beyond the things I have already tried. My only goals were to be able to browse my files where they reside and be able to play them without issues. Both of those have been accomplished without using JRiver.
Generally, if someone has the problems that you describe, it means that the DLNA server is transcoding unnecessarily. You need to make sure turn Audio and Video transcoding off. I have no problems pushing anything and everything to my 103 from jRiver...including MKVs and DSD files.

There is a dedicated thread for Oppo-related DLNA discussions. You might poke your head in there.

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You need to make sure turn Audio and Video transcoding off. .
worth a try I guess. Anyone have a link?

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worth a try I guess. Anyone have a link?
Here's a link to the Oppo thread Laird was writing about.
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Here's a link to the Oppo thread Laird was writing about.
Oppo bdp 83-93-103-105 DLNA/uPnP Thread
...and here is an old post of mine describing specifically what I did to get JRMC and the Oppo to play "nice."

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How true is the oppo clipping issue?
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I find if I pull the first album of the day from the Oppo I can then push the rest of the day with no problem.

If I try to start the day pushing music to the Oppo, it rarely will.

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I find if I pull the first album of the day from the Oppo I can then push the rest of the day with no problem.

If I try to start the day pushing music to the Oppo, it rarely will.
That actually makes sense on a level. The pull is like you coming to me and saying "hey, I am here!!" Now, I know you are here, and you can start new conversations with me AND I can initiate conversations with you if I want to. Note, however, that this process of establishing communications is done directly - with a message "hey, I am here" that was sent by you to me. There was no "undirected" communication, as in "is there anybody out there?" (apologies to Roger Waters and Pink Floyd)

Starting with a push, however, means that in order for Jriver to know that the Oppo is there, there has to be a successful "discovery" conversation PRIOR to the push. To carry forward the analogy: I would shout "is anyone here?" and then you would reply "hey, I am here". Unfortunately, in DLNA/UPnP, that first shout out is an undirected message, and in network terms that means broadcast or multicast. As I have said before, I have had numerous problems with broadcast and multicast traffic on wireless networks that I do not have on a wired network, and that problem has interfered directly with the discovery process in DLNA. This has been true for several different wireless routers and access points. I have had no such problems with discovery on any wired network (friends who I help with setup or my own rig). Hence, my assertion that, if you want reliable discovery, you need both the Oppo and the computer running JRiver to be wired to the same network and not be wireless.

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