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A friend of mine sold me (practically gave it away) the Cambridge Audio Azur 840c Cd Player, I have always liked the way this unit sounds. Since the player is older it does not provide usb inputs for hard drives, etc. I am wondering if I could use the Oppo 105 as a USB transport unit and then listen to music using the Cambridge Dacs.

Is there a way to do this without passing the audio signal through the Oppo dacs?
Yes. and you'd have to use the optical or SP/dif output from the Oppo to the equal input of the CA.
Your USB files would also need to be compatible with the player and there are also restrictions on
what can be output over those outputs on any given player including the Oppo.
If you are primarily talking redbook audio, then you are good to go.
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Yes. and you'd have to use the optical or SP/dif output from the Oppo to the equal input of the CA.
Your USB files would also need to be compatible with the player and there are also restrictions on
what can be output over those outputs on any given player including the Oppo.
If you are primarily talking redbook audio, then you are good to go.
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Where is the best place to buy high resolution "studio" quality .flac and DSD files of classical music?
www.aixrecords.com
www.channelclassics.com
www.naxos.com/blu-ray_audio.asp
www.eclassical.com
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www.pentatonemusic.com
www.highresaudio.com
www.highdeftapetransfers.com
www.qobuz.com
www.onkyomusic.com
http://ototoy.jp/top
http://store.acousticsounds.com/superhirez
http://downloadsnow.net
http://creamusic.net/classical/308-v...dvd-audio.html
Also check out Berlin Philharmonic's digitalconcerthall.com even though it's only 256kbits AAC (but their in-house label for purchase has up to 192/24!)

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A friend of mine sold me (practically gave it away) the Cambridge Audio Azur 840c Cd Player, I have always liked the way this unit sounds. Since the player is older it does not provide usb inputs for hard drives, etc. I am wondering if I could use the Oppo 105 as a USB transport unit and then listen to music using the Cambridge Dacs.

Is there a way to do this without passing the audio signal through the Oppo dacs?
Have you A/B compared them? IMO the Oppo 105 is heads and shoulders above that Cambridge in sq...
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Have you A/B compared them? IMO the Oppo 105 is heads and shoulders above that Cambridge in sq...
It's like some people buying high-end turntables for their old vinyls thinking they sound better than hi-res audio. Always cracks me up.

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It's like some people buying high-end turntables for their old vinyls thinking they sound better than hi-res audio. Always cracks me up.
I always respect people's perception as I like people to respect mine. I asked a question and it was answered by Smarty-pants, your comments do not contribute to my original concern, therefore your comment is just condescending.
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quick question.
am i better off with a 105 or 103?
my uncle has both and is getting a 105d so he told me to pick either one of his older ones(103 or 105) to keep.
i currently have a decent onkyo 709 receiver and a Samsung KS8000 TV if that helps
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The only reason to get the 105 is for its superior analog audio decoding and ability to plug in music files directly from a computer via its USB port. For most people, the 103 makes more sense. But...if you can pick either one and don't have to pay any more, then take the 105 for its future greater resale value.

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The only reason to get the 105 is for its superior analog audio decoding and ability to plug in music files directly from a computer via its USB port. For most people, the 103 makes more sense. But...if you can pick either one and don't have to pay any more, then take the 105 for its future greater resale value.
i was leaning towards the 105 as well the only concern was if i had enough space in my entertainment cabinet.
is there any minimum space the 105 needs for air flow?
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The only reason to get the 105 is for its superior analog audio decoding and ability to plug in music files directly from a computer via its USB port. For most people, the 103 makes more sense. But...if you can pick either one and don't have to pay any more, then take the 105 for its future greater resale value.
The 105 also has a head phone jack.
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The 105 also has a head phone jack.
is it any good? i have some Senheisser HD650s but haven't gotten around to getting a dedicated amp for them.
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is it any good? i have some Senheisser HD650s but haven't gotten around to getting a dedicated amp for them.
I have the same Senheisser HD650s and they sound great for me. The DAC section is the same that is used for the analog out.
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i was leaning towards the 105 as well the only concern was if i had enough space in my entertainment cabinet.
is there any minimum space the 105 needs for air flow?
When it comes to a free Oppo player, you just find a way to make room for it.
Yes you will need to have some space above the 105 for heat dissipation.
How much room depends on how closed off the player is on all sides.
The 105 is also vented on top and doesn't really run "hot" the majority of the time.
You might get away with just a few inches, but more if you want to play it safe.
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Technical query of a problem kind but not been able to find anything through the search function so apologies if it's came up before.

I also suspect the solution is a repair or check via an engineer but thought I would check here.

Recently been rebuilding my system and the Oppo has returned to being my main stereo player-which is my main use-stereo reproduction.

A few things changed in my system prior to the problem occurring so here is the background.

I bought a new Sony TV. I got a new amp and speakers. Things were working fine the first week. I decided to try using the Oppo as an input via optical digital cable from my TV to put the sound through my system. Worked fine after a bit of jiggling about. I did find though that you had to re-power the Oppo to get the input option to work again-a bit fiddly and annoying. Shortly after this I started to get audio drop outs when listening to music-quite often after powering up....just a few seconds where the stereo sound would drop out. I thought it might be related to the digital in being used so I dropped this off by removing the cable etc.

I am pretty certain all audio settings are as should be but I still get the drop outs on an intermittent basis-again often after initially powering the Oppo up-I tend to put it on standby-I find a power down causes the problem to go but the odd time even then you get a drop out.

It is not the new amp as I have set up an old Sony Blu Ray and cannot re-create the effect playing music from that. It will do it on the Oppo whether I am using balanced cables or RCA's. So it is affecting both audio outputs.

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^ My guess would be that you are getting copy protection check failures on the HDMI signal path and the audio is getting muted while the system does an HDMI retry.

To test that, get some audio playing and then physically disconnect the HDMI outputs from the OPPO. You will get an audio cut out while the player reacts to the fact that it is no longer connected via HDMI, and then the Analog audio output you are using should come back. The question is, do you get any Analog audio dropouts while there's no HDMI connected?

You should also not have HDMI Input cables connected to the OPPO. And of course if you are playing something simple like a CD you can disconnect the HDMI outputs before even powering up the player since you won't need video to get that going.

Now, if you discover that removing the HDMI connections cures the problem, then you need to look to your HDMI cabling.

Since you have new gear, you may also have new HDMI cabling. One common problem with new cables is that they are still kinky from the packaging, and that puts tension on the plugs in the sockets. It only takes a small shift of plug in socket to screw up the connection. So make sure all the plugs are fully inserted straight into their sockets with nothing (e.g., cable weight or kinks) tugging on the plugs. HDMI is an end to end protocol so you have to check the entire length of the HDMI signal path.

Other potential HDMi problems can come from the length of the cables you are using and your choice of Resolution and Deep Color. For example, if you are now using 4K video with your new display, your cables may not be up to the task.
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^ My guess would be that you are getting copy protection check failures on the HDMI signal path and the audio is getting muted while the system does an HDMI retry.

To test that, get some audio playing and then physically disconnect the HDMI outputs from the OPPO. You will get an audio cut out while the player reacts to the fact that it is no longer connected via HDMI, and then the Analog audio output you are using should come back. The question is, do you get any Analog audio dropouts while there's no HDMI connected?

You should also not have HDMI Input cables connected to the OPPO. And of course if you are playing something simple like a CD you can disconnect the HDMI outputs before even powering up the player since you won't need video to get that going.

Now, if you discover that removing the HDMI connections cures the problem, then you need to look to your HDMI cabling.

Since you have new gear, you may also have new HDMI cabling. One common problem with new cables is that they are still kinky from the packaging, and that puts tension on the plugs in the sockets. It only takes a small shift of plug in socket to screw up the connection. So make sure all the plugs are fully inserted straight into their sockets with nothing (e.g., cable weight or kinks) tugging on the plugs. HDMI is an end to end protocol so you have to check the entire length of the HDMI signal path.

Other potential HDMi problems can come from the length of the cables you are using and your choice of Resolution and Deep Color. For example, if you are now using 4K video with your new display, your cables may not be up to the task.
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Bob Thanks actually think I might have changed the HDMI cable recently when resorting the TV. I don't use an HDMI input however the HDMI is always connected to the TV so you might well be correct.

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Interestingly enough my Oppo HDMI set up was the cable furthest stretched to make the input-on the side rather than in the centre so I've changed that about-probably could do with looking at the quality of the cable as well but will test as recommended when it's a decent time to try music.
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Interestingly enough my Oppo HDMI set up was the cable furthest stretched to make the input-on the side rather than in the centre so I've changed that about-probably could do with looking at the quality of the cable as well but will test as recommended when it's a decent time to try music.
Just to add removing the HDMI cable whilst playing music totally recreates the identical type of drop out I was experiencing -so it looks very like the case this is the root cause. I haven't had a repeat since changing my cables about but I will continue to monitor this.

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I have had our new BDP-105D for a few weeks. Where is the best place to buy high resolution "studio" quality .flac and DSD files of classical music? My investigations online so far indicate that it is the wild west, and that some sources provide files are true high resolution, and some are just upconverted from CD format.

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The biggest classical catalog so far (but no DSD, just HI-Res) : Qobuz (I am a big fan, very good in any type of music BTW)

Another good one for classical : prestoclassical dot co dot uk

Other classical (but I rarely found here something that was no in one of the first two above mentionned) : classiconline and linnrecords

HDTracks has two sites (stupid Right problems, but a good VPN helps ) one is dot com the other dot co dot uk
It is good for folk rock pop, less good for classical. Sometimes the US web site has the Hi_res version where the European ones have low-res (ECM is good at that)

For DSD : yes nativedsd is the best. What is interesting is that you can browse directly by label, like lso dot nativedsd dot com (LSO is quite advanced in SACD / DSD. Unfortunately Vox Alia which has a lot of SACD does not offer DSD.)

And many unknown artists who don't have the chance to published yet can be found on bandcamp sometimes you may find some good things (more pop folk jazz etc. than clasical)

To answer your quastion about true Hi-res, all sites will tell you that they just take whatever the label gives them, and they can't spend time on million titles to check (Qobuz is roughly 30 million titles as of now, and they propose streaming also)

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quick question.
am i better off with a 105 or 103?
my uncle has both and is getting a 105d so he told me to pick either one of his older ones(103 or 105) to keep.
i currently have a decent onkyo 709 receiver and a Samsung KS8000 TV if that helps
105 compared to 103 (whether D or not) is the audio stage : much better in the 105; and also XLR output

So if you are in the hi quality audio world, go to 105 without any hesitation !

I can even say that a BDP 105 on DSD file is better than a Linn Akurate on the flac file...
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105 compared to 103 (whether D or not) is the audio stage : much better in the 105; and also XLR output

So if you are in the hi quality audio world, go to 105 without any hesitation !

I can even say that a BDP 105 on DSD file is better than a Linn Akurate on the flac file...
followed everyones recommendation and went with the 105 and should be getting it this week.
Im really looking forward to setting it up along with the new Samsung KS8000 TV i also got
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I went to watch a movie tonight with the Oppo and the unit is a brick. It turns on and off, but I have no image on any video output and the door does not respond. I have not updated the firmware like in a year and have unplug it several times, the last time for an hour. It looks pretty hopeless.

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105 compared to 103 (whether D or not) is the audio stage : much better in the 105; and also XLR output

So if you are in the hi quality audio world, go to 105 without any hesitation !

I can even say that a BDP 105 on DSD file is better than a Linn Akurate on the flac file...

I like what you say. Once I exercised a few of the 105's options (i.e. passive attenuator and using the USB ports with my SSD), the 105D is significantly more musical than my previous $9k Esoteric UX-3SE.

Quite a player if I say so myself. I'd love to see what OPPO can do if they created a dedicated no-holds-barred (within reason) 2-channel music-only version.

Even with just some good basics like a solid aluminum chassis, remove the A/V board and CD transport, cryo-treat a few connectors, wires, and fuses, etc. Those changes alone could bring some rather interesting gains.

It seems to me that at least some OPPO engineers really know their stuff to deliver this level of play. And for a paltry $1300.
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I went to watch a movie tonight with the Oppo and the unit is a brick. It turns on and off, but I have no image on any video output and the door does not respond. I have not updated the firmware like in a year and have unplug it several times, the last time for an hour. It looks pretty hopeless.
Disconnect EVERYTHING from the player, including the Wifi dongle, and take the player to another room (different wall power circuit). While still unplugged, press and hold the Front Panel Power button for a few seconds to discharge any residual power. Reconnect JUST the power cord and see if the unit will power up using the Front Panel power button. If it does power up -- i.e., wait a minute for the messages to finish cycling in the Front Panel display -- then try opening the Tray using the Front Panel button.

If still no luck getting the player to power up and the tray to open, the player will need service. OPPO offers reasonably priced flat rate service for players out of warranty.
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Disconnect EVERYTHING from the player, including the Wifi dongle, and take the player to another room (different wall power circuit). While still unplugged, press and hold the Front Panel Power button for a few seconds to discharge any residual power. Reconnect JUST the power cord and see if the unit will power up using the Front Panel power button. If it does power up -- i.e., wait a minute for the messages to finish cycling in the Front Panel display -- then try opening the Tray using the Front Panel button.

If still no luck getting the player to power up and the tray to open, the player will need service. OPPO offers reasonably priced flat rate service for players out of warranty.
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Thank you for your quick response Bob,

I followed your advise step by step.

The unit does power up, as it did before following your instructions, but there is no massage to speak of, after about 35 seconds or so of powering up I can hear a click, but nothing happens. The unit does not respond, all I can see are the play,fast farward and pause bottons on the front display. I can also power down the unit which takes the same time as it did when the player was properly working but nothing on the display. The doors doesn't work and nothing happens using the remote.

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^ I doubt there's any more you can do on your own. Send an email to OPPO Tech Support and they'll explain the procedure for getting the player serviced.
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I like what you say. Once I exercised a few of the 105's options (i.e. passive attenuator and using the USB ports with my SSD), the 105D is significantly more musical than my previous $9k Esoteric UX-3SE.

Quite a player if I say so myself. I'd love to see what OPPO can do if they created a dedicated no-holds-barred (within reason) 2-channel music-only version.

Even with just some good basics like a solid aluminum chassis, remove the A/V board and CD transport, cryo-treat a few connectors, wires, and fuses, etc. Those changes alone could bring some rather interesting gains.

It seems to me that at least some OPPO engineers really know their stuff to deliver this level of play. And for a paltry $1300.
I agree with you. And there is even worse : I have compared Oppo to Klimax :
- oppo dsd to klimax flac (klimax does not read dsd) : oppo is better
- flac against flac : the klimax is better, but not to the ratio of prices (one to ten...)
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Do any of you use your Oppo as a surround DAC?

I tried running the optical output of my DISH 722 into my Oppo and using it for surround audio, but the lip sync was WAY off and, as DISH doesn't have an A/V sync channel, impossible to lock in the amount of delay needed and how much it was off.

Note I used the WOW disc to get the sync right for BD playback, but I'm wondering how others have done this same type of thing.

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Optical can't play the newer audio codecs.

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