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I own two Oppo devices, the Oppo BDP 105EU and the HA2 DAC.

With Tidal now streaming hi res audio via the MQA container does anyone know if Oppo has plans to allow native decoding after a firmware upgrade perhaps?
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I own two Oppo devices, the Oppo BDP 105EU and the HA2 DAC.

With Tidal now streaming hi res audio via the MQA container does anyone know if Oppo has plans to allow native decoding after a firmware upgrade perhaps?
OPPO has made no statement on that, but if you ask OPPO Tech Support this question, they might have an answer for you.
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Bob,

I contacted Oppo to see if they were likely to incorporate MQA decoding into future firmware builds or new iterations of products. This was their response:

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The ability to support MQA with Tidal is something that we are investigating, but at this time we do not know if MQA can actually be integrated into our current line of players.

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Roon multi-channel support would be amazing!
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Looks like it's technically possibly to introduce MQA decoding to pre MQA enabled DACs. Consider this statement from Audioquest on the enjoythemusic.com website.

AudioQuest, are also announcing MQA implementation in their USB DAC products, DragonFly Red and Black. MQA will be available to AudioQuest customers later this month via a free software update. Steve Silberman, VP of Development, commented: "AudioQuest aims to deliver amazing sound quality and MQA implementation in our products demonstrates this commitment. We're very excited to offer AudioQuest customers the best possible audio experience." MQA demonstrations will be in the AudioQuest Venetian suites 30-105 and 30-106, and at the Hi-Res Audio Pavilion.

Am I right in thinking that Audioquest use the Sabre DAC chip in these products? Hoping that Oppo allow customers this functionality in their existing product range. I've spent a lot of money on their products over the years and their customer support is legendary.
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The 203 is only about 3" tall. Does anyone know if that will be true of the 205?
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^^^ The 205 will definitely be taller. Just like the 103 vs 105.
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The 203 is only about 3" tall. Does anyone know if that will be true of the 205?
You can see a front shot of the upcoming 205 on OPPO's sign up page for release information:

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/

A similar angle photo for the 203 is in the product pages for the 203:

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-u...03-Images.aspx

Clearly the 205 will be taller than the 203.
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Bob, that's what I concluded when I looked at those photos, but I hoped it wasn't so. I'd like to install an integrated Levinson 383 amp in the slot below the Oppo, but I'm missing about an inch for the recommended clearance.

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Release date: January 9, 2017
Category: Latest Public Beta Test Release
Main Version: BDP10X-83-1226B
Loader Version: 6U1000 or 7B1400 (BDP-103), 7B1400 (BDP-105, BDP-105D, BDP-103D)
Sub Version: MCU103-05-0916 (BDP-103), MCU105-04-1113 (BDP-105), MCU13D-01-0618 (BDP-103D), MCU15D-01-0930 (BDP-105D), DB10X 131030 (BDP-103D, 105D)
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1. Resolved an issue with gapless playback. (BDP10X-83-1226B)
2. Resolved a no audio issue with certain receivers when playing DD+ 5.1 content from Netflix and Vudu. (BDP10X-83-0918B)
3. Resolved an issue where the player would automatically power off when receiving commands via a TCP connection. (BDP10X-83-0918B)
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Hello everyone. New owner of a previously used 105, so far I like it very much. Sounds impressive. It's connected to Marantz 8802A. Switched between hdmi and xlr. The Oppo really sounds amazing. Maybe a tad bit better sounding than Marantz.


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In trying to extract all I can from my 105, I am trying to make another output to my vintage Marantz running the stero in my shop. Right now it has a cd player connected to its Aux rca input. I already have the stereo rcas from the 105 going to my main music system and the 5.1 rcas to my HT system. That leaves the balanced stereo outs. I can run xlr to rca cables to the Marantz, but I don't know what to do with pin 3: let it float or tie it to pin 1. The method Oppo uses to balance the path determines this, and I can't find a definitive answer.

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In trying to extract all I can from my 105, I am trying to make another output to my vintage Marantz running the stero in my shop. Right now it has a cd player connected to its Aux rca input. I already have the stereo rcas from the 105 going to my main music system and the 5.1 rcas to my HT system. That leaves the balanced stereo outs. I can run xlr to rca cables to the Marantz, but I don't know what to do with pin 3: let it float or tie it to pin 1. The method Oppo uses to balance the path determines this, and I can't find a definitive answer.

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See the Pin diagram on Page 17 of the User Manual.

Pin 1 is Ground (cable shield). Pins 2 and 3 are both signal lines.

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In trying to extract all I can from my 105, I am trying to make another output to my vintage Marantz running the stero in my shop. Right now it has a cd player connected to its Aux rca input. I already have the stereo rcas from the 105 going to my main music system and the 5.1 rcas to my HT system. That leaves the balanced stereo outs. I can run xlr to rca cables to the Marantz, but I don't know what to do with pin 3: let it float or tie it to pin 1. The method Oppo uses to balance the path determines this, and I can't find a definitive answer.

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I used this cable: (Seismic Audio SA-DRCXLF12 Premium 12 Foot Dual XLR Female to Dual RCA Male Patch Cable - XLRF to 2-RCA) to go from the XLR to a Odyssey Stratos amp with RCA inputs. The stereo outs to two Open Baffle subs. The 105 manual shows the pin layout for XLR.
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See the Pin diagram on Page 17 of the User Manual.

Pin 1 is Ground (cable shield). Pins 2 and 3 are both signal lines.

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Yes, sir. But I have to terminate in an unbalanced rca connector, so pin 3 either floats free or gets tied to ground. If Oppo uses a transformer to balance the output then pin 3 should be tied to pin 1, if it actively loads pin 3 then it should float, (I think!). The question is which?

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I used this cable: (Seismic Audio SA-DRCXLF12 Premium 12 Foot Dual XLR Female to Dual RCA Male Patch Cable - XLRF to 2-RCA) to go from the XLR to a Odyssey Stratos amp with RCA inputs. The stereo outs to two Open Baffle subs. The 105 manual shows the pin layout for XLR.
Thanks! Pin 3 is tied to pin 1 in that cable. I'm good to go!
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I want to use the xlr for 2 ch playback with my Marantz 8802A. What should "stereo signal" be set to for optimum performance. It's on page 74 of the owners manual. I'm sort of confused between down mixed stereo or Front Left/Right. Thanks any help would be appreciated.


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I want to use the xlr for 2 ch playback with my Marantz 8802A. What should "stereo signal" be set to for optimum performance. It's on page 74 of the owners manual. I'm sort of confused between down mixed stereo or Front Left/Right. Thanks any help would be appreciated.


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FL and FR is what I would choose. Down mixed stereo can do funny things to surround mixes. Some of the side speaker mixes will end up in the front speakers. When you turn on the tone sounds you can hear what is going where as you move around the room.
The Marantz is very impressive looking. I had a Denon AVR that did not have the reserve power needed for my Maggies. Many of us Magnepan users use the 105 analog outs to power separate amps for each pair of speakers. I have a 7.1 Magnepan system.
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Hi Folks,

Do you think I can connect my LG Leon smartphone to my Oppo 105D USB DAC with a micro USB OTG cable so that I can stream hi-res music from my NAS using Andoid app HibyMusic?
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I want to use the xlr for 2 ch playback with my Marantz 8802A. What should "stereo signal" be set to for optimum performance. It's on page 74 of the owners manual. I'm sort of confused between down mixed stereo or Front Left/Right. Thanks any help would be appreciated.
This decision really only matters if you're listening to multi-channel content. If listening to 2 channel music, then there won't be a difference. Contrary to @oneartist 's suggestion, I'd probably choose the down mixed stereo option, but feel free to try it both ways and go with what you prefer.
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This decision really only matters if you're listening to multi-channel content. If listening to 2 channel music, then there won't be a difference. Contrary to @oneartist 's suggestion, I'd probably choose the down mixed stereo option, but feel free to try it both ways and go with what you prefer.
It is very possible that down mixed stereo is the best choice for 2 channel music. I first noticed the problem when I had tone set to "on" and I was adjusting 7.1 speaker volume. When I clicked on a rear speaker, the sound was also present in the front speakers. I discovered that down mixed stereo was the cause. If you are using 7.1 you definitely do not want to use down mixed stereo if you are watching a movie produced in 7.1.
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Asynch USB volume level lower than other inputs

This question has probably been asked before but searching this huge forum thread is too much of a challenge...

My AV Amp has a problem, so I have just switched to using my Oppo 105 for decoding the digital output from my Sky+ digibox (i.e. my satellite TV service). I am also experimenting with using a new stereo power amp without any pre-amp. The Oppo's phono dedicated stereo output is connected directly to this power amp.

All appears to be well if I play a CD or use the satellite TV input, but the volume level when using the asynch USB input is significantly lower. This input is fed from a Windows 10 PC, which has its sound setting at 100%. My ears would probably bleed if I turned the Oppo's volume to 100 when listening to the TV or a CD, but it only gets to moderately loud for the asynch USB input (which is my normal method of playing music).

Can anyone offer an explanation for this behaviour and/or a way to fix it?

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UPDATE ON 17 JAN: Oppo tech support suggested trying a factory reset of the 105's settings. That fixed the problem!


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This is the setting I'm referring to. I set it to front left/right. Since I'm using this for 2 Channel music in stereo.


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It is very possible that down mixed stereo is the best choice for 2 channel music.
It's not so much a matter of being the "best choice", but if there are only 2 channels in play (for 2 channel music, for example), then there's nothing to downmix, so the choice between the 2 options won't matter.

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I first noticed the problem when I had tone set to "on" and I was adjusting 7.1 speaker volume. When I clicked on a rear speaker, the sound was also present in the front speakers. I discovered that down mixed stereo was the cause. If you are using 7.1 you definitely do not want to use down mixed stereo if you are watching a movie produced in 7.1.
Yes, when you select downmix, the surround channels (when present) get mixed into what comes out of the dedicated stereo outputs - that's the whole point of the option.

If you're using both the dedicated stereo outputs for your front left/right speakers AND the other channels on the multi-channel outputs at the same time to send signals to the remaining 5.1 channels (center, sides, rears, and sub), then you definitely would want to use the FL/FR option. This sounds like what you were doing and you'll end up getting channel content duplicated in both the FL/FR channels and the corresponding surround channels as you found.

But if you're just sending 2 channels of audio to the pre-pro (via the XLR outputs, for example) and not connecting any of the other analog outputs, which is what @ril850 is doing, then the downmix option is definitely a valid choice that won't result in the duplicate output that you experienced.
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I've been using HDMI-2 bitstream from the 105 to a Cary Cinema 12. The Cary outputs to a stereo amp and to a Velodyne SMS-1 bass manager. The SMS-1 needs to receive full-range audio. I expect to replace the Cary processor with an Ayre K-5xeMP analog stereo preamp and use balanced connections. What settings should I use for the sub output of the 105? Do I leave the speakers set to small in the menu and raise or lower the crossover to max or set the speakers to large so the full range is sent to the LR channels of the preamp? As I understand the manual, these settings do not apply for HDMI, but are relevant for bass management by the Cary processor as well. I suppose I could connect the analog sub output from the 105 to the single-ended input of the stereo preamp if that might help, but I should contact Ayre about that.

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If you're using both the dedicated stereo outputs for your front left/right speakers AND the other channels on the multi-channel outputs at the same time to send signals to the remaining 5.1 channels (center, sides, rears, and sub), then you definitely would want to use the FL/FR option. This sounds like what you were doing and you'll end up getting channel content duplicated in both the FL/FR channels and the corresponding surround channels as you found.

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This is what I'm doing. By using the XLR to my front speakers and the stereo to the OB subs. The FL&FR outs of the multichannel DAC are not used. There is a first order dividing network in the XLR line that drops 6db below 80hz to Magnepan 1.7 Front speakers. The stereo line has a high pass filter at 80hz to the OB subs. The effect is like effortless 1.7's with very deep bottoms.
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I'm happy to own a 105D. It's directly connected to my 5-channel Rotel RMB-1075 amp. Recently I bought an occasion that maches the RMB-1075 and is used to bi-amp my fronts. This Rotel RB-981 stereo amp has the same input sensitivity as the RMB-1075, so it is a good match. Because the Oppo has two DAC-boards, I don't need a Y-cable. Currently the RB-981 gets signal from the dedicated stereo DAC and is powering the LF on my fronts. The five RCA's on the 7.1-board are connected to the multichannel power amplifier.
I assume that the output of all the RCA's (on both boards) are (theoretically) the same. Is that correct? Is it worth trying to use the dedicated stereo DAC for the HF?
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I'm happy to own a 105D. It's directly connected to my 5-channel Rotel RMB-1075 amp. Recently I bought an occasion that maches the RMB-1075 and is used to bi-amp my fronts. This Rotel RB-981 stereo amp has the same input sensitivity as the RMB-1075, so it is a good match. Because the Oppo has two DAC-boards, I don't need a Y-cable. Currently the RB-981 gets signal from the dedicated stereo DAC and is powering the LF on my fronts. The five RCA's on the 7.1-board are connected to the multichannel power amplifier.
I assume that the output of all the RCA's (on both boards) are (theoretically) the same. Is that correct? Is it worth trying to use the dedicated stereo DAC for the HF?
When you use the better DAC for your front speakers you do not use the FL and FR RCA outs on the 7.1 analog section. Of course, you can adjust all the vol levels using the tone control and listening to white noise. It is suggested to leave the quietest speaker at 0 and dropping the other louder speaker levels to match for surround sound. When I listen to stereo, I go back and bring my front speakers up to 0.

Also, when you use the term Bi-Amp, it usually means you are using one amp for the upper frequencies and another amp for the low frequencies of the same speaker.
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Of course! I'm using one amp for the front LF and the other amp for the front HF (and centre and rear-speakers). Now I'm using four RCA-outs from the Oppo for my fronts. Is one DAC better than the other?

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Of course! I'm using one amp for the front LF and the other amp for the front HF (and centre and rear-speakers). Now I'm using four RCA-outs from the Oppo for my fronts. Is one DAC better than the other?
Yes, the DAC implementation for the dedicated 2 channel outputs is better than the implementation for the 7.1 multi-channel outputs. Using both the dedicated 2 channel outputs AND the FL/FR outputs in the multi-channel set for biamping purposes probably isn't an ideal solution. Have you considered using a Y-adapter on the dedicated 2 channel outputs?
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