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But almost all the jazz SACDs I have that were created from DSD or other true high resolution masters are only two channel. Maybe the classical audience insists on surround mixes.

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I just purchased the OPPO 105. I already have two OPPO 95s.

So far I have not determined if one sounds better than the other.
The interface has improved on the 105 a lot faster.
You Tube works a lot better.

I have noticed that all of my USB hard drives work on the 105 without AC power. On the 95 only some of them worked this way.

I have a question about the playlist with music.
If I set up a playlist using the OPPO how can I change or deselect songs?
So far I have to shut off the player and start all over again to make any changes.
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105 vs 203 SQ

Anyone own a 105 than moved to the 203? Wondering what you thought about the sound quality (CD/SACD) between the 2. I've had the 203 since it came out and sold off the 105 . Just started to listen to music on the 203 (vinyl is more my passion), I have to say I thought the 203 was doing a hell of a job and though I don't have the 105 to directly compare the two, thought the 203 was a bit better. Anyone else to any comparing?


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Anyone own a 105 than moved to the 203? Wondering what you thought about the sound quality (CD/SACD) between the 2. I've had the 203 since it came out and sold off the 105 . Just started to listen to music on the 203 (vinyl is more my passion), I have to say I thought the 203 was doing a hell of a job and though I don't have the 105 to directly compare the two, thought the 203 was a bit better. Anyone else to any comparing?


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I own a 105 and I have purchased a 203 also. I find that the SQ is better on the 105. I still use the 105 for SACD listening and the 203 for movie viewing.
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I tried a few movies on Netflix using the 105 connected to an Ayre QX-5 D/A processor. Some of the movies played fine, but a couple came up with a strange repeating structured, i.e. not white or pink, noise instead of audio. Any ideas about what's going on?

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I tried a few movies on Netflix using the 105 connected to an Ayre QX-5 D/A processor. Some of the movies played fine, but a couple came up with a strange repeating structured, i.e. not white or pink, noise instead of audio. Any ideas about what's going on?

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That's likely the sound of Dolby Digital bitstream audio, which the QX-5 Twenty can't process, only regular PCM digital audio.
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That's likely the sound of Dolby Digital bitstream audio, which the QX-5 Twenty can't process, only regular PCM digital audio.
Thanks, I'll reset the 105 output to PCM 192, and give it a try. I have a 205 in the same rack, but its HDMI interaction with DirecTV is poor, so I'll use it for 4K movies. I reasoned using the QX-5 Twenty would compensate for the DAC of the 105 not being the equal of that of the 205.

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That's likely the sound of Dolby Digital bitstream audio, which the QX-5 Twenty can't process, only regular PCM digital audio.
Changing the Oppo 105 digital audio output from bitstream to 192K PCM worked. Thanks.

BTW, the 105 audio passed through a QX-5 Twenty makes a fine, although pricey, CD player. But the QX-5 doesn't do DSD.

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BTW, the 105 audio passed through a QX-5 Twenty makes a fine, although pricey, CD player. But the QX-5 doesn't do DSD.
Actually, the QX-5 Twenty does decode DSD.

The problem is it can only do it from ripped or downloaded files, as the only legal way for a disc player to output a DSD bitstream is via HDMI, and the QX-5 Twenty does not have an HDMI input.
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BTW, the 105 audio passed through a QX-5 Twenty makes a fine, although pricey, CD player. But the QX-5 doesn't do DSD.
Actually, the QX-5 Twenty does decode DSD.

The problem is it can only do it from ripped or downloaded files, as the only legal way for a disc player to output a DSD bitstream is via HDMI, and the QX-5 Twenty does not have an HDMI input.
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BTW, the 105 audio passed through a QX-5 Twenty makes a fine, although pricey, CD player. But the QX-5 doesn't do DSD.
Actually, the QX-5 Twenty does decode DSD.

The problem is it can only do it from ripped or downloaded files, as the only legal way for a disc player to output a DSD bitstream is via HDMI, and the QX-5 Twenty does not have an HDMI input.
That is not true. Oppo plays SACD files. It also plays DSD files from a server w/o converting for hdmi

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That is not true. Oppo plays SACD files. It also plays DSD files from a server w/o converting for hdmi
How does that make my statement untrue?

Yes, the Oppo plays SACDs, and it does a great job of doing it.

However, the original poster is using it as a transport connected to the Ayre QX-5 Twenty DAC.

Though the QX-5 Twenty can decode DSD, there is no way to get a DSD bitstream out of the Oppo into the Ayre as the player is only allowed to output a DSD bitstream via HDMI, and the Ayre does not have an HDMI input.

Thus when playing an SACD, you can either listen to DSD as decoded by the Oppo's DAC, or you have to listen to an Oppo-generated PCM stream sent to the Ayre.
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However, the original poster is using it (Oppo 105) as a transport connected to the Ayre QX-5 Twenty DAC.

Though the QX-5 Twenty can decode DSD, there is no way to get a DSD bitstream out of the Oppo into the Ayre as the player is only allowed to output a DSD bitstream via HDMI, and the Ayre does not have an HDMI input.

Thus when playing an SACD, you can either listen to DSD as decoded by the Oppo's DAC, or you have to listen to an Oppo-generated PCM stream sent to the Ayre.
I should have been more precise. Of course the QX-5 Twenty can decode DSD downloads, and that's my primary use of it. As far as playing SACDs, I'm following Charles Hanson's recommendation to connect analog from my C-5xeMP to the KX-5 Twenty preamp and AES/EBU digital to the QX-5. The 105 is connected via optical and used to stream DirecTV, Netflix, and Berlin Philharmonic.

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Is there a recommended (make/model) receiver/tuner/amp that can take analog input from an external DAC source, specifically the Oppo 105? I am curious if you find any perceptible improvement in fidelity. I currently use the Marantz 1605. I tried using the analog in on this receiver from the analog out of the Oppo and the sound quality actually degraded. I am willing to upgrade and my budget is ~ $1000 - $2000
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Is there a recommended (make/model) receiver/tuner/amp that can take analog input from an external DAC source, specifically the Oppo 105? I am curious if you find any perceptible improvement in fidelity. I currently use the Marantz 1605. I tried using the analog in on this receiver from the analog out of the Oppo and the sound quality actually degraded. I am willing to upgrade and my budget is ~ $1000 - $2000
When you say that the sound is degraded. What do you mean from what set up. I use my Marantz 8802A for inputs from my OPPO and love using the d/a of the oppo feeding xlr input on the Marantz using the pure mode to my GoldenEars

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When you say that the sound is degraded. What do you mean from what set up. I use my Marantz 8802A for inputs from my OPPO and love using the d/a of the oppo feeding xlr input on the Marantz using the pure mode to my GoldenEars
What amplifier are you using?
I dont have shelf space for such huge units as the 8802A.
Re: your question, the audio was sounding bad, like with an echo and out of a tunnel when I connect analog out from Oppo to analog in to the Marantz 1605.
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What amplifier are you using?
I dont have shelf space for such huge units as the 8802A.
Re: your question, the audio was sounding bad, like with an echo and out of a tunnel when I connect analog out from Oppo to analog in to the Marantz 1605.
I suspect something is awry with your 1605. I have one here in my den and, while it ain't the be-all or end-all in AVRs, an echo and out of a tunnel is something I've never heard from it (including from Oppos).

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What amplifier are you using?
I dont have shelf space for such huge units as the 8802A.
Re: your question, the audio was sounding bad, like with an echo and out of a tunnel when I connect analog out from Oppo to analog in to the Marantz 1605.
The MOST COMMON cause when folks report an "echo" is that their TV speakers are also getting audio and have not been turned off. (The timing is different for audio via the TV speakers and audio via the set of external, home theater speakers being driven by the AVR.)
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When you say that the sound is degraded. What do you mean from what set up. I use my Marantz 8802A for inputs from my OPPO and love using the d/a of the oppo feeding xlr input on the Marantz using the pure mode to my GoldenEars
What amplifier are you using?
I dont have shelf space for such huge units as the 8802A.
Re: your question, the audio was sounding bad, like with an echo and out of a tunnel when I connect analog out from Oppo to analog in to the Marantz 1605.
Try using the Marantz to decode using the hdmi cable and tell us what it sounds like. I suspect you have a set up issue with one or both of the devices

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Does anyone know if the 105 will have support for roon like the 205 does now?
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Does anyone know if the 105 will have support for roon like the 205 does now?
IMHO given that the 10x series is no longer in production, it's extremely unlikely. Oppo needs to focus their efforts on the current product, so I wouldn't expect anything beyond possibly bug fixes (things like support for new titles that fail to play with the existing firmware) for the 10x platform at this point.
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I have given up on the Marantz. Customer service wont respond.

Could anyone tell me the optimum way to connect the BDP-105 to a peachtree Nova for Audio?
The manual for Nova is available here https://www.peachtreeaudio.com/media...ova_Manual.pdf . I read the manual, but still unsure. The Nova has a very good DAC but I believe the Oppo has one that is even better and more advanced. I am curious if I would find any difference. If I do, I will report it here.

I have NHT SW10 MK II sub and Mirage Oasis Omni 6 outdoor speakers


On a separate note, for Video, I am planning to purchase a HDMI switch, with audio out for maximum flexibility. Any recommendations make/model/source for a quality HDMI switch with optical audio out? I am hesitant to purchase the cheap HDMI switches that are flooding the market, it just seems to a mismatch given how much pride and care I take in procuring quality equipment.
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I have given up on the Marantz. Customer service wont respond.

Could anyone tell me the optimum way to connect the BDP-105 to a peachtree Nova for Audio?
I use Analog Out from my 105D for the best signal. I can't imagine buying Oppo and not using its superb DAC's.

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I have given up on the Marantz. Customer service wont respond.

Could anyone tell me the optimum way to connect the BDP-105 to a peachtree Nova for Audio?
The manual for Nova is available here https://www.peachtreeaudio.com/media...ova_Manual.pdf . I read the manual, but still unsure. The Nova has a very good DAC but I believe the Oppo has one that is even better and more advanced. I am curious if I would find any difference. If I do, I will report it here.

I have NHT SW10 MK II sub and Mirage Oasis Omni 6 outdoor speakers


On a separate note, for Video, I am planning to purchase a HDMI switch, with audio out for maximum flexibility. Any recommendations make/model/source for a quality HDMI switch with optical audio out? I am hesitant to purchase the cheap HDMI switches that are flooding the market, it just seems to a mismatch given how much pride and care I take in procuring quality equipment.
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