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I would like some advice. I own the bdp-95 and I am thinking about adding a dedicated cd player (Onkyo C-7000R). If only considering two channel sound on cds and sacds, would I get better performance from the Onkyo or the bdp-105? I dont mind having another Oppo but im primarily looking looking for the best two channel performance for a max budget of $1500. If the bdp-105 is a better choice, I could always move the bdp-95 to the bedroom. I will be connecting to a onkyo A9070 integrated amp. I would like the music to sound neutral/slightly warm and not harsh, bright, or thin. Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
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I would like some advice. I own the bdp-95 and I am thinking about adding a dedicated cd player (Onkyo C-7000R). If only considering two channel sound on cds and sacds, would I get better performance from the Onkyo or the bdp-105? I dont mind having another Oppo but im primarily looking looking for the best two channel performance for a max budget of $1500. If the bdp-105 is a better choice, I could always move the bdp-95 to the bedroom. I will be connecting to a onkyo A9070 integrated amp. I would like the music to sound neutral/slightly warm and not harsh, bright, or thin. Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
First off, the Onkyo C-7000R is only a CD player - it will NOT play SACD's.

Even if the Onkyo is a better CD player than the BDP-95, it's highly unlikely that it's going to be enough better to justify both the expense and the extra space it will take in your rack. If you purchase the Onkyo, make sure you purchase it from a place with a good return policy so you can send it back if you find it's no an upgrade. If you can find a local dealer who will lend you one to audition before purchase, that would be even better.

A BDP-105 would be a slight improvement over your BDP-95 for CD playback, but if that's the only reason you're looking to upgrade, I'm not sure it's enough of an upgrade to bother with. If you purchase direct from Oppo, you've got 30 days to evaluate it and decide. There are 1 or 2 reviewers who prefer the sound from Cambridge Audio's new player, so that's also an option to consider.

You don't say what the rest of your system consists of, but IMHO your money would likely be better spent upgrading to better speakers, adding room treatments to improve the acoustics, a better integrated amp, or even consider switching to an amp and using your Oppo as the preamp, depending on what other source devices you have in your system.
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First off, the Onkyo C-7000R is only a CD player - it will NOT play SACD's.

Even if the Onkyo is a better CD player than the BDP-95, it's highly unlikely that it's going to be enough better to justify both the expense and the extra space it will take in your rack. If you purchase the Onkyo, make sure you purchase it from a place with a good return policy so you can send it back if you find it's no an upgrade. If you can find a local dealer who will lend you one to audition before purchase, that would be even better.

A BDP-105 would be a slight improvement over your BDP-95 for CD playback, but if that's the only reason you're looking to upgrade, I'm not sure it's enough of an upgrade to bother with. If you purchase direct from Oppo, you've got 30 days to evaluate it and decide. There are 1 or 2 reviewers who prefer the sound from Cambridge Audio's new player, so that's also an option to consider.

You don't say what the rest of your system consists of, but IMHO your money would likely be better spent upgrading to better speakers, adding room treatments to improve the acoustics, a better integrated amp, or even consider switching to an amp and using your Oppo as the preamp, depending on what other source devices you have in your system.
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There is also an option of modding your Oppo. EleonorD has done it and was extremely happy with the results - look several pages back in this thread
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How would you audiophiles rate the quality of the BDP-105s headphone amp? I mean compared to a certain price class for external headphone amps or maybe a specific amp product???
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I'd like some advice on how to hook up the following for best Audio and Video:
Display LG 9600 55
Marantz SR7005
Squeezebox touch Currently hooked into AVR via RCA
Apple TV currently hooked into AVR via HDMI
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Has anyone had any issues with DolbyDigital-HD with OPPO BDP 105? I recently borrowed The Dark Knight from a friend and it sounded really bad, as if you had to really turn up the volume to get what you expected for an action movie of that caliber. So today I watched Ironman, which I`ve seen a ton of times through my speakers and got the same sound, not as dynamic as it should be. Both are DD-HD and I`m not real familiar with Dark Knight but I know Ironman and it sounded a lot better with my BDP-93. I recently added a new processor and neither have a problem with DTS-HD, only with DD-HD. Anyone have the same issues?
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Has anyone had any issues with DolbyDigital-HD with OPPO BDP 105? I recently borrowed The Dark Knight from a friend and it sounded really bad, as if you had to really turn up the volume to get what you expected for an action movie of that caliber. So today I watched Ironman, which I`ve seen a ton of times through my speakers and got the same sound, not as dynamic as it should be. Both are DD-HD and I`m not real familiar with Dark Knight but I know Ironman and it sounded a lot better with my BDP-93. I recently added a new processor and neither have a problem with DTS-HD, only with DD-HD. Anyone have the same issues?

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Has anyone had any issues with DolbyDigital-HD with OPPO BDP 105? I recently borrowed The Dark Knight from a friend and it sounded really bad, as if you had to really turn up the volume to get what you expected for an action movie of that caliber. So today I watched Ironman, which I`ve seen a ton of times through my speakers and got the same sound, not as dynamic as it should be. Both are DD-HD and I`m not real familiar with Dark Knight but I know Ironman and it sounded a lot better with my BDP-93. I recently added a new processor and neither have a problem with DTS-HD, only with DD-HD. Anyone have the same issues?
My experience has been that DD-HD has allot of variance in how loud a soundtrack is mastered and recorded to disc. Not so much with DTS-HDMA.

Since this subject has come up, I've always been curious to know whether the studio logo (MGM, Fox, Paramount, Columbia etc) that plays at the beginning of a movie is an indication of how loud or soft the movie was recorded. I'm always at a loss to know just how high or low to set the volume on my pre-pro when I throw in an unfamiliar movie.

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Guys, I've also got recently EVS modded Oppo - here is the story:

I used to own lots of different streamers: Linn Akurate DS, Olive, Yamaha NS-2000, Modwright Transporter.

Recently due to space/money limitations decided to consolidate audio/video system around Oppo BDP-105 (as there is
little of other options) + 5 active Spendor SA speakers.
I've tried BDP-95 prior to that to make sure it has all flexibility and it was just OK for me in terms of sound
but started to look for aftermarket mods.

For many years I was following EVS website as it's the oldest in modding business and Ric Schultz is sharing
lots of free tweaking info. Dan Wright is also a good modder and I liked tube Transporter from him however
without preamp/processor I didn't want stereo channels to be any different from the rest.

A few months ago decided to send Oppo to Ric. While it was uncomfortable to wait since he was just developing
these mods but when everything was finished finally party came to my house.
Turning on system for the first time just to play a few tunes ended up with an extended listening session way past midnight.
The sound is really interesting: absolutely relaxed with no sign of any sort of coloration.
There is a space between the sounds and can easily tell where musicians are during the performance.
Sure thing that with so high resolution poor recordings become more apparent.
In terms of dynamics it's only area I'm not sure as it's not slow but rather very relaxed.
One major thing that I'm really happy about is that it plays music well accross all genres, most of equipment I had before
favored certain type of music but in here it's an awesome all-rouder.
Video quality cannot comment on as I'm using small 42 inch TV.
Very glad to get rid of numerous components and to own such a system, thanks Ric!
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Has anyone had any issues with DolbyDigital-HD with OPPO BDP 105? I recently borrowed The Dark Knight from a friend and it sounded really bad, as if you had to really turn up the volume to get what you expected for an action movie of that caliber. So today I watched Ironman, which I`ve seen a ton of times through my speakers and got the same sound, not as dynamic as it should be. Both are DD-HD and I`m not real familiar with Dark Knight but I know Ironman and it sounded a lot better with my BDP-93. I recently added a new processor and neither have a problem with DTS-HD, only with DD-HD. Anyone have the same issues?

Simple fix! set the HDMI audio in the Oppo to "Bitstream" and not LPCM wink.gif
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^ Actually he's just posted in another thread that this "problem" is no longer happening. I suspect a simple case of user confusion with the new gear and options on the discs.
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^ Actually he's just posted in another thread that this "problem" is no longer happening. I suspect a simple case of user confusion with the new gear and options on the discs.
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^ It's a problem from the Official firmware that was made more likely to happen in the Public Beta. The good news is that means it is easier to find and fix. I think OPPO should have a fix soon.
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I'd like some advice on how to hook up the following for best Audio and Video:
Display LG 9600 55
Marantz SR7005
Squeezebox touch Currently hooked into AVR via RCA
Apple TV currently hooked into AVR via HDMI
Verizon Fios hooked into AVR vis HDMI.

I like to know what way is best to utilize the Oppo 105 for best Audio and Video.

Thanks.
Ii use the oppo 105 7.1 into the marantz 7.1 inputs and the 2 ch analog out of the oppo into the bd two channel analog in. I also used the two channel balanced out directly into an emotiva amp.
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^ Actually he's just posted in another thread that this "problem" is no longer happening. I suspect a simple case of user confusion with the new gear and options on the discs.
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Turns out I got a faulty BDP 105. Their sending me a new one.
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Anyone notice Oppo 105 dsd dff multi channel playback via analogue is wrong? Left and right channel appears on left and right surround as well. When u play dsd dff 2 ch the sound appears in surround as well. When I stream the dsd to my onkyo 5509 the mch playback is correct.
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I posted this over at the general Oppo 105 owners' site, but thought I might be more likely to get help here.

I need help with regard to programming my 105 to play songs (on CDs) in a specific personally chosen order. I have read the manual and still don't have a clue. I see "Random" and "Shuffle," but that's it. This is such a simple feature; that has been around for so long. It's hard for me to believe this can't be done. My 105 is not connected to a video screen, so I can't easily use a video screen to figure this out. It certainly does seem that a video screen should be needed, though. This is a very basic, standard feature on CD players!

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I posted this over at the general Oppo 105 owners' site, but thought I might be more likely to get help here.

I need help with regard to programming my 105 to play songs (on CDs) in a specific personally chosen order. I have read the manual and still don't have a clue. I see "Random" and "Shuffle," but that's it. This is such a simple feature; that has been around for so long. It's hard for me to believe this can't be done. My 105 is not connected to a video screen, so I can't easily use a video screen to figure this out. It certainly does seem that a video screen should be needed, though. This is a very basic, standard feature on CD players!

Thanks...
You already got answers to your question in the 105 owner's thread. Asking again here isn't going to get you any different answers: playlists can be created for music that's on attached USB drives, not on physical CD media, and you need a display attached in order to create the playlists.
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You already got answers to your question in the 105 owner's thread. Asking again here isn't going to get you any different answers: playlists can be created for music that's on attached USB drives, not on physical CD media, and you need a display attached in order to create the playlists.

I got one answer, from one person. And I couldn't tell from his answer if he had actually tried it or not. This has been a feature almost from the beginning of CD players in the 1980s. My universal player prior to the 105 had it. Do you really think I'm being unreasonable to ask the question on this forum, the one that is devoted to people who are interested particularly in listening and sound (and therefore maybe this feature)? I just thought someone here might have figured out a way to do it. Again, because I'm incredulous that it would get dropped.
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You posted your question in the other thread and got the first answer all of 10 minutes later. Nevertheless, 10 minutes after that you duplicate posted your question in this thread.

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I got one answer, from one person. And I couldn't tell from his answer if he had actually tried it or not. This has been a feature almost from the beginning of CD players in the 1980s. My universal player prior to the 105 had it. Do you really think I'm being unreasonable to ask the question on this forum, the one that is devoted to people who are interested particularly in listening and sound (and therefore maybe this feature)? I just thought someone here might have figured out a way to do it. Again, because I'm incredulous that it would get dropped.
The person who answered you is very active in the Oppo threads, has been around a long time, knows what he's talking about, is a beta tester, and is the maintainer of the unofficial FAQ for the player. You probably didn't get additional responses because his answer was accurate and there was no need for 30 people to repeat the same thing a bunch of times. If you would like the functionality changed, your best bet is to contact Oppo customer service. All we can do here is answer how the product works - we can't actually change how it works wink.gif.
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You posted your question in the other thread and got the first answer all of 10 minutes later. Nevertheless, 10 minutes after that you duplicate posted your question in this thread.

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I am honestly troubled that I seem to have irritated both you and gsr. I simply realized after I'd posted on the other thread that this one made much more sense. I thought I had explained that, but I am nevertheless very sorry this has disturbed both of you.
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The person who answered you is very active in the Oppo threads, has been around a long time, knows what he's talking about, is a beta tester, and is the maintainer of the unofficial FAQ for the player. You probably didn't get additional responses because his answer was accurate and there was no need for 30 people to repeat the same thing a bunch of times. If you would like the functionality changed, your best bet is to contact Oppo customer service. All we can do here is answer how the product works - we can't actually change how it works wink.gif.

Thank you, gsr. I have to admit that I didn't really understand what the person who originally answered my question was saying exactly; nor could I tell if he understood my question. In any case, I am sorry for your trouble. I think it's time for me to stop posting.
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I am honestly troubled that I seem to have irritated both you and gsr. I simply realized after I'd posted on the other thread that this one made much more sense. I thought I had explained that, but I am nevertheless very sorry this has disturbed both of you.
The first thread you posted in was the better place to ask general questions about the 105 and therefore the better place for your question. This thread is intended to be more about how to get the best sound quality out of the player, rather than about general functions of the player.
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Thank you, gsr. I have to admit that I didn't really understand what the person who originally answered my question was saying exactly; nor could I tell if he understood my question. In any case, I am sorry for your trouble. I think it's time for me to stop posting.
If you didn't understand his answer, the logical next step is to ask a follow-up question to get clarification rather than post the same question in another thread. There's certainly no need to stop posting.

As far as not needing a display for such a feature on a traditional CD player, keep in mind that traditional CD players don't have video outputs. If Oppo were to add some sort of playlist functionality for CD's, it's very likely you would need a display in order to use it. And like I said in a previous post, if a feature that you want doesn't exist on the player your best course is to contact Oppo and let them know what you're looking for. They obviously don't implement every feature that's requested, but they do listen to their customers.
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Im thinking of buying another player Oppo- 105 or Sony SCD-XA-5400ES has anyone here compared the 2 units ?

I currently use a Denon DBT-3313UDCI and I'm wondering if either will be an upgrade for SACD

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I would connect the dedicated analog RCA's out of the OPPO to the analog CD inputs on your Marantz. Use the CD setting when you want to listen to analog music (which uses the OPPO's DAC, and is really the benefit of the 105 over the 103).

Connect the HDMI2 out of the OPPO to the Marantz and HDMI1 out of the OPPO directly to the TV and select HDMI split in the OPPO menu. This will give you the best picture possible and allow you to get lossless audio through the Marantz.

Thanks a bunch for your reply. A problem with connecting the stereo analog out from the 105 to the Marantz is that my speakersetup is currently a 3.1 setup, with a powerful center channel speaker for dialogue. I would like to keep that center channel.

Any suggestions on how to connect the BDP-103 to the Peachtree Nova and Epson 8500 HomeCinema Projector, I have included pictures for reference. Thanks.

ps. I think connection to the Epson is a no brainer, so please disregard that request.
psps. I did some additional research and figured out what I need to do. Here it is -
The Nova has a built in DAC (ESS 9006 Sabre), will connect the optical out from the Oppo to the Nova
I will use the analog out on the Oppo to connect to my wireless headphones

Curious which DAC is better.. the one in Nova or the one in Oppo (??). I am thinking BDP-103(Cirrus logic CS4382A) < Nova (Sabre ESS 9006) < BDP-105 (Sabre ESS 9018 32 bit). Could anyone confirm?

This is getting interesting.. reading about the SABRE DAC here..http://www.esstech.com/PDF/sabrewp.pdf

Again my setup as follows -
Bedroom (BDP-103+Peachtree Nova, Epson projector)
Living room (BDP-105+Marantz 1602, LG Plasma TV)

I am beginning to understand now, how much out of league my Marantz 1602 is, when paired with the Oppo 105. That said, any suggestions on an alternative to the Marantz to pair with my Oppo 105? I like Marantz for its small foot print, airplay and audio/video switching capabilities. Sound quality seems decent but then again I may not know any better.

OR would I be better off pairing the 105 with the Nova instead, and pair the 103 with the Marantz.. I wonder... If I go this route, then I need to bypass the DAC on 103 and connect 103 to the Marantz by HDMI. On the other system in the bedroom, I could use the reference stereo out from Oppo 105 to connect to stereo in on the Nova. The more I think about this, more I am liking it. Seems to be a better way to use/pair the components I have.

I think I will leave the 105 with the Marantz and the 103 with the Nova for now. As one of you explained, I will attach analog out from Oppo to analog in of Marantz and also hook up a HDMI cable from Oppo to Marantz. This way I have a good DAC in both my rooms.





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Is there a high end amplifier anyone would recommend that has a small footprint like the Marantz 1602 to pair with a BDP-105? I need it to power stereo and a center channel speaker at the least. If possible a sub too although its optional,since I have a powered sub I can directly connect to the Oppo.
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