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Also, make sure the Oppo and the rest of the equipment are plugged into the same power outlet or powerstrip.


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The Oppo volume control is part of the ESS DAC so its 'coloring' is part of the sound the Oppo produces. The colored sound remains whether going direct to the amp or through a preamp. If, as you say, you prefer going through your JC2 preamp than going direct to the amp, then its means the extra coloring the JC2 does to the signal is pleasant to your ears. Certainly no problem with that...

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Yes but the volume control in the DAC is probably doing things in the digital domain. Using the internal volume control within the DAC may result in a different sound than bypassing it as the DAC's output properties have changed. Of course there are probably some tests that can show if this is the case (bench measurements of the output with or without the volume being used) but I don't have the tools to do that handy. In my situation I just find that I like using my own preamps (whether it be the Anthem or the Parasound) compared to direct to the amps (which still sounded outstanding).

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In my situation I just find that I like using my own preamps (whether it be the Anthem or the Parasound) compared to direct to the amps (which still sounded outstanding).

Same here.


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As expected, Audeze sounded the best but were the least comfortable...


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Also, make sure the Oppo and the rest of the equipment are plugged into the same power outlet or powerstrip.
I added a special thing to the end of the cable going into my DVD and it solved the hum problem. It was a ground loop issue with my cable tv company. Thanks.
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I'm not an BDP-105 owner yet, but hope to be soon. I understand that the Oppo is now DSD capable. In reading this article about the Teac UD-501 http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue67/teac.htm I learned that DSD is possible in two resolutions: 2.8MHz and 5.6MHz. Will the BDP-105 decode both of these? Also, is there any advantage to having an outboard DAC vs using the Oppo's DAC?

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I'm not an BDP-105 owner yet, but hope to be soon. I understand that the Oppo is now DSD capable. In reading this article about the Teac UD-501 http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue67/teac.htm I learned that DSD is possible in two resolutions: 2.8MHz and 5.6MHz. Will the BDP-105 decode both of these? Also, is there any advantage to having an outboard DAC vs using the Oppo's DAC?

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I have not tried it with the newest update (yet) but with the Beta update, it only did 2.8MHz.   Note that there is almost nothing available in source material at 5.6MHz (again, yet).


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Hello i have a few questions
I will upgrade my Blu-ray player to a new 3D Blu-ray player. As the audio part of Oppo 105 is rated very very good, I wonder if it is worth the money because it has a DAC ?

Or should I get a DAC instead and get the Oppo 103 or Philips 9700. Some people say it is better a get a separate DAC (Wadia 121 or Onix DAC25B) and a separate 3D blu-ray player.

So what are the reason to choose Oppo 105 than use separate DAC with oppo 103 or philips 9700?

Your advice is very helpful for me smile.gif
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If your looking for a dac I would buy the 105 can't beat it for the price

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Quick question, has anyone seen any research that compares the analog sound quality of an 83SE to that of a 103? I read a post recently that claims both are very similar in sound quality.
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Hello. I'm having handshake issues between my FIOS STB and my marantz SR7005. I was going to hook the STB into my LCD via HDMI instead of my marantz to correct this. Am I better off hooking the STB into my 105 via HDMI instead? Would I get better sound and video? Are there still lip synch issues post firmware update?Thanks
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Quick question, has anyone seen any research that compares the analog sound quality of an 83SE to that of a 103? I read a post recently that claims both are very similar in sound quality.


Yeah, their both bad! No offense. If your looking to upgrade your 83SE, I would just keep it for BD and add an Arcam CD17 for 2 channel. I recently bought an Arcam BDP300 after owning 2 different OPPO`s over the years, and Arcam is so much better sounding than the OPPO 105 even.
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Yeah, their both bad! No offense. If your looking to upgrade your 83SE, I would just keep it for BD and add an Arcam CD17 for 2 channel. I recently bought an Arcam BDP300 after owning 2 different OPPO`s over the years, and Arcam is so much better sounding than the OPPO 105 even.

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Better than the Oppo 105 ?[/

Alot better, especially analog. I am doing an A/B comparison tonight with an Oppo BDP 103, if you want I can post results.
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Yeah, their both bad! No offense. If your looking to upgrade your 83SE, I would just keep it for BD and add an Arcam CD17 for 2 channel. I recently bought an Arcam BDP300 after owning 2 different OPPO`s over the years, and Arcam is so much better sounding than the OPPO 105 even.

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Better than the Oppo 105 ?[/

Alot better, especially analog. I am doing an A/B comparison tonight with an Oppo BDP 103, if you want I can post results.


Is that your professional opinion? Personally I think the BPD-103 is quite good for its price point. Your PREFERENCE for another solution doesn’t invalidate the goodness in the BDP-83SE or BDP-103.smile.gif

It is ok to like and/or endorse another product, but the question by the OP related to the BDP-83SE and the BDP-103.


There was a comparison between an 83SE, Arcam FMJ CD 37 and Roksan Caspian M Series-1 cd player. Guess which one the listener preferred? The BDP-83SE by default.smile.gif Read his post below.

“We have compared the oppo 83 special edition blu-ray player
and Arcam fmj cd 37 and Roksan Caspian m series-1 cd player
which cost a lot more than the oppo.We listened to the arcam and roksan
first and we preferred the roksan. it was more open and airy the vocals
sounded clearer. Then we compared the oppo to the roksan to our
surprise the oppo was better again, the instruments sounded clearer the
vocals sounded better and it was a little more open. more air around
the voices. The sound stage was just unbelievable the bass was tighter
more controlled you could hear every different bass note. The best I have
heard yet on my system. I think you would have to spend £2000 or £3000
to get better than the oppo for two-channel music. The oppo also plays SACD
and DVD-AUDIO plus blu-ray.

This is the system I used for it:

ARCAM FMJ AV9-P7-CD37, DENON-3800bd . Dali helicon 400 fronts. Dali 200 center. And Dali in wall back speakers. SVS pc-ultra13 sub. Audioquest type-8-gibraltar speaker cable. Audioquest king cobra interconnects. Isotek power supply- cables”.


This doesn’t mean the 83SE is better, but this specific listener preferred it over his other alternatives. Also, I am going to go out on a limb say that the Arcam FMJ CD 37 is probably better than the Arcam CD17 and BDP300.smile.gif

I have no experience with Arcam and they probably make a fine product. The BDP300 sounds intriguing, especially since it implements the better Wolfson WM8741 DACs which I have another heard in operation. However, for approximately $1,500 ($300 more thanh the BDP-105) it doesn’t play SACD, DVD-A, FLAC, no headphone amp, no balanced XLR output, no HDMI input, can’t be used with legacy AVRs, limited user created media support and it can’t be used as a DAC.eek.gif Game set match BDP-105 for me.biggrin.gif

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I've been using my Battleship-build Sony SCD-777ES SACD Player for music (when not listening to vinyl) for years.
For Blu-Rays I've been using my PS3 but I'm sick of how noisy it is and would like something silent, quick and if image/sound quality is better that would be a very nice bonus.

I've been wondering if replacing the Sony (it should still fetch a good price second hand) with the Oppo 105 and using it for CD, SACD and Blu-Ray would make sense, I've no idea if the Oppo would match or beat my Sony with 2 Channel Music.

has anyone heard both players?

We had a SCD-777ES as our first SACD player using it for CDs and SACDs for years. Then we got an OPPO BDP-83SE which sounded better than the 777 particularly on CDs. Then we went to a BDP-93 which was about equal in SQ to the 83. However, when the 95 became available we sold the 93. The SQ of the 95 was even better. Now we own a 105 since we wanted to stream from an external source. The SQ is essentially equal to the 95 although a bit better in our system. Bottom line is I wouldn't hesitate to sell the 777 and step up to the 105 for SQ alone. You won't believe how good SACDs can sound let alone DSD files.

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We had a SCD-777ES as our first SACD player using it for CDs and SACDs for years. Then we got an OPPO BDP-83SE which sounded better than the 777 particularly on CDs. Then we went to a BDP-93 which was about equal in SQ to the 83. However, when the 95 became available we sold the 93. The SQ of the 95 was even better. Now we own a 105 since we wanted to stream from an external source. The SQ is essentially equal to the 95 although a bit better in our system. Bottom line is I wouldn't hesitate to sell the 777 and step up to the 105 for SQ alone. You won't believe how good SACDs can sound let alone DSD files.Under "warm with rain promised" Seattle skies, Gill

Same here, I still have the SCD-5400 but don't use it much! "Hot with Sun promised" California skies smile.gif
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I also have both an Oppo 105 and Sony 5400ES in my setup, but rarely use the Sony. The Oppo uses the balanced analog input of my Cary 11a; the Sony uses HDMI and unbalanced analog, so it may be unfairly disadvantaged.

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I am curious which sound better a dealer told me the Sony sound better, but I suspect it's because he wants to sell me one!

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I am curious which sound better a dealer told me the Sony sound better, but I suspect it's because he wants to sell me one!

The sound of either is excellent, but a bit different. I prefer that of the Oppo 105 for stereo. I haven't sufficiently compared 5.1 unbalanced analog from the Oppo with 5.1 HDMI from the Sony to reach a conclusion. I use the unbalanced stereo output of the Oppo for the front LR for 7.1, and set the mains to large, so the subs are activated only if there is explicit .1. The audio chain is disc player to Cary 11a processor to KEF 107/2 and 102 KUBEs to Proceed HPA 2 & 3 amps to Reference 107/2 mains and Reference 102 surrounds. For what it's worth, high quality vinyl sounds remarkably similar to SACDs played on the Oppo but not on the Sony for those recordings I have in both vinyl and disc -- the vinyl setup is Thorens TD 124 with SME Series III arm and SME Ortofon 30H cartridge through a Channel Island Audio phono stage with separate power supply. (The CIA may be replaced with a Parasound JC 3 in the future.)

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The sound of either is excellent, but a bit different. I prefer that of the Oppo 105 for stereo. I haven't sufficiently compared 5.1 unbalanced analog from the Oppo with 5.1 HDMI from the Sony to reach a conclusion. I use the unbalanced stereo output of the Oppo for the front LR for 7.1, and set the mains to large, so the subs are activated only if there is explicit .1. The audio chain is disc player to Cary 11a processor to KEF 107/2 and 102 KUBEs to Proceed HPA 2 & 3 amps to Reference 107/2 mains and Reference 102 surrounds. For what it's worth, high quality vinyl sounds remarkably similar to SACDs played on the Oppo but not on the Sony for those recordings I have in both vinyl and disc -- the vinyl setup is Thorens TD 124 with SME Series III arm and SME Ortofon 30H cartridge through a Channel Island Audio phono stage with separate power supply. (The CIA may be replaced with a Parasound JC 3 in the future.)

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Nice system and thanks for the description of SACD and vinyl playback. Have you tried the Oppo 105 balanced stereo into your Cary 11a processor? It appears seems you have a true "balanced" system from 105 to the amps? I miss my Thorens TD 126. I am sure you are enjoying yours!biggrin.gif

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Nice system and thanks for the description of SACD and vinyl playback. Have you tried the Oppo 105 balanced stereo into your Cary 11a processor? It appears seems you have a true "balanced" system from 105 to the amps? I miss my Thorens TD 126. I am sure you are enjoying yours!biggrin.gif

It's balanced from the Oppo 105 through the Cary 11a to the amps and to the Velodyne SMS-1 bass manager controlling a pair of HGS-15s. If I get a Parasound JC 3, I'll add a 3:1 XLR switch so the Oppo, Sony, and JC 3 can use the balanced input of the Cary.

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Same here, I still have the SCD-5400 but don't use it much! "Hot with Sun promised" California skies smile.gif
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I also have both an Oppo 105 and Sony 5400ES in my setup, but rarely use the Sony. The Oppo uses the balanced analog input of my Cary 11a; the Sony uses HDMI and unbalanced analog, so it may be unfairly disadvantaged
yeah, I've both players myself as well (SCD-XA5400ES and BDP-105), still waiting to get complete room set-up with projector and screen, etc.,... I'm excited to eventually compare SQ between these two players. I'm a little surprised to hear folks leaning towards the BDP-105 for analog (RCA or XLR). I guess their sound signatures are "different"?

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The sound of either is excellent, but a bit different. I prefer that of the Oppo 105 for stereo. I haven't sufficiently compared 5.1 unbalanced analog from the Oppo with 5.1 HDMI from the Sony to reach a conclusion. I use the unbalanced stereo output of the Oppo for the front LR for 7.1, and set the mains to large, so the subs are activated only if there is explicit .1. The audio chain is disc player to Cary 11a processor to KEF 107/2 and 102 KUBEs to Proceed HPA 2 & 3 amps to Reference 107/2 mains and Reference 102 surrounds. For what it's worth, high quality vinyl sounds remarkably similar to SACDs played on the Oppo but not on the Sony for those recordings I have in both vinyl and disc -- the vinyl setup is Thorens TD 124 with SME Series III arm and SME Ortofon 30H cartridge through a Channel Island Audio phono stage with separate power supply. (The CIA may be replaced with a Parasound JC 3 in the future
interesting system, KEF speakers are circa 1986. I would definitely expect very different sound comparing Sony HDMI 5.1 OUT to Oppo 5.1 analog OUT.
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I have not tried it with the newest update (yet) but with the Beta update, it only did 2.8MHz.   Note that there is almost nothing available in source material at 5.6MHz (again, yet).

Thank you Kal. I asked this same question on the other Oppo 105 thread but should've checked this thread first.

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interesting system, KEF speakers are circa 1986. I would definitely expect very different sound comparing Sony HDMI 5.1 OUT to Oppo 5.1 analog OUT.

According to KEF, the 107/2s are 1990-95. The Sony via HDMI does sound different than the Oppo analog, less open and with more mid-bass, but it's been a while since I checked the settings of the Cary. The Cary analog inputs are set to bypass, whereas the HDMI inputs actively processes the signal.

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Parasound JC-2 preamp into Proceed HPA amps
KEF Reference 107/2 mains & 102 surrounds
Velodyne SMS-1 bass managers & a pair of HGS-15 subs
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yeah, I've both players myself as well (SCD-XA5400ES and BDP-105), still waiting to get complete room set-up with projector and screen, etc.,... I'm excited to eventually compare SQ between these two players. I'm a little surprised to hear folks leaning towards the BDP-105 for analog (RCA or XLR). I guess their sound signatures are "different"?

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