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Hi folks,

I am considering purchasing either the OPPO 103 or the 105 for my bluray source to replace a PS3 in my main entertainment area. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with both the 105 and the XA7ES for 2 channel audio. I am very attached to my Sony but if the 105 is comparable in sound quality using the same components I might be swayed to get the 105 and sell the Sony to clean up some space on the entertainment center. For reference the other components I'm using are the Emotiva UMC-200 processor (in direct mode for 2 channel), Sunfire 200x5 cinema grand and the main speakers are Monitor Audio GS20s.

Any thoughts from those with experience with both would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Sorry I don't have experience with the 105 but I have used various Sonys and the XA7 is far behind 9000ES, 777ES, 999ES, with 5400ES being the best for CD never mind SACD. If the Oppo 95 is in the same league as the latter then I think you can assume the 105 will crush the XA7, unless you enjoy a very crisp strident sound. Oppos are said to be more organic and less forward than the Sonys.

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Hi folks,

I am considering purchasing either the OPPO 103 or the 105 for my bluray source to replace a PS3 in my main entertainment area. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with both the 105 and the XA7ES for 2 channel audio. I am very attached to my Sony but if the 105 is comparable in sound quality using the same components I might be swayed to get the 105 and sell the Sony to clean up some space on the entertainment center. For reference the other components I'm using are the Emotiva UMC-200 processor (in direct mode for 2 channel), Sunfire 200x5 cinema grand and the main speakers are Monitor Audio GS20s.

Any thoughts from those with experience with both would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Oppo 105 can actually act as a preamp driving amp directly. Would be interesting to find out if you still need UMC-200 after all
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I haven't heard the X7AES, but "crisp sounding and strident" perfectly describes the
way my Oppo 105 sounds. It's a fairly new player, and I'm hoping that further break-in
will ameliorate its sound. I would be very wary of using it as my primary source of music,
unless you have very mellow sounding speakers and electronics.
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That is unusual, but the way these things are mass produced it is possible you have a bad sample. If you end up returning it I don't think it will get re-voiced and fixed. It will probably end up with someone that only uses HDMI and they'll never know about the analog sound - sounds crazy but it happens all the time here.

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I haven't heard the X7AES, but "crisp sounding and strident" perfectly describes the way my Oppo 105 sounds. It's a fairly new player, and I'm hoping that further break-in
will ameliorate its sound. I would be very wary of using it as my primary source of music,
unless you have very mellow sounding speakers and electronics.

Th Oppo needs tons of break-in. Don't judge it until you have 200-300 hours on it. Lack of enough break-in is one of the reasons that opinions are all over the place. Apparently people are even sending it out for mods before they really know how good it sounds.

Some have written that it needs to be warmed up for a couple of hours after being turned on. I don't know because I leave it on all the time.
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If you end up returning it I don't think it will get re-voiced and fixed.

I suspect like all other returned units due to buying remorse (without obvious faults) it will simply be repackaged, resealed and re-sold as new.
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Th Oppo needs tons of break-in. ...

Some have written that it needs to be warmed up for a couple of hours after being turned on.

I can understand plasmas and speakers need breaking-in but players? What's the science behind it?

And warming up? Seriously...?

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Yeah, how great a product is that which needs hundreds of hours to sound pleasing? I doubt Oppo engineers had a unit on the bench for 200 hrs then said "OK now lets fine tune the sound."

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On the basis of what I am hearing out of my Oppo, I think that's exactly what they did!
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OPPO can not resell returned units as new, even if there is not a thing wrong with them. There are regulations against that.

They can be "refurbished" and then either sold that way (typically happens late in the life of each model -- the only "price break" you'll see on an OPPO) or used as warranty replacement inventory.
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I believe you Bob smile.gif but people still think getting an opened or refurbished (repaired) unit instead of brand new as warranty replacement is acceptable and excellent service?

Audiosceptics accept audio trials using 25 people. A recent Oxford study with over 353,000 patient records from 639 separate clinical trials shows for every 1,000 people taking diclofenac or ibuprofen there would be 3 additional heart attacks, 4 more cases of heart failure and 1 death every year.

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I believe you Bob smile.gif but people still think getting an opened or refurbished (repaired) unit instead of brand new as warranty replacement is acceptable and excellent service?

As part of warranty service? Sure. If they fixed your player you wouldn't be getting new one back. If they replace it you may or may not get a new one. Read the warranty: http://www.oppodigital.com/OPPO-Product-Warranty.asp
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