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I know my tuner, lacking an HDMI input is 'old', but it still provides excellent quality sound.
Anyone posting to answer 'buy a new tuner' will be ignored and have their posts glared at.

Anyway, I know Oppo still provides 7.1 analog on their BD players and last year I think there was exactly one other unit on the market with this feature.
Can anyone tell me what the landscape looks like this year? Is it Oppo or nothing?

Also, the specs of the Oppo BDP-105 show upgraded analog audio handling versus the BDP-103.
Does this mean there is a distinct improvement of the BDP-105 7.1 out over the BDP-103 7.1 out? Is it worth double the price?

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Then glare ahead. It is probably much better bang for buck to buy a new AVR and "normal" blu ray player than forking out big bucks for an oppo. Unless you really really want to use the oppo as a pre-amp or really must have all the other features of the oppo.

Haven't seen too many blu ray players recently that have full 5.1/7.1 analog outs and can compare price wise to the new AVR option.
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Hi DoctorM, fancy meeting you here.

The BDP-105 has a more "audiophile" analog audio stage than the BDP-103. Which, in my opinion, means you will barely notice the difference under even the best-case scenario. For some, that's enough to justify the cost. But those people are crazy I'm not one of those people.

The analog out on the 103 is quite good. I've got the 93 myself and use the analog audio outs for my old-but-perfectly-serviceable receiver. No complaints at all.

EDIT: And actually I agree with newirishman that if this is your only reason for considering an Oppo, just bite the bullet and get a new receiver. I personally found that, at the time, there were lots of other advantages to the BDP-93 so for me, it was worth it.
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I'm not sure there is a math that makes a BD player + New tuner = the $500 that an Oppo costs.
The Panasonic 7.1 out player (if it still exists) was only about $200.

But just assuming a $500 budget, what good quality tuner can be had for $300-350?
Would that really sound better than a Denon AVR-3300?

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Wrong forum for that question. I get it though, I like my receiver a lot too and hate the idea of taking a chance on something else, and hope it lasts forever. I think that what the "new receiver" crowd are recommending is that you get a cheap (not no-name) <$100 Blu-ray player and use the HDMI out with that new receiver, which can now be $400 or so with that theoretical $500 budget. I'm the wrong person to ask about shopping for receivers, but you can get a Pioneer VSX-1022 or something like it for that easily. I haven't heard your Denon AVR, but I eventually replaced my much older Denon receiver with a considerably cheaper model (still analog way back when) and felt the sound was improved, YMMV.

But that's where you get into the things that make Oppo better than a bottom-shelf player. Need good DVD upscaling? Need PAL conversion? Need a region mod? Need zoom or subtitle shift? Answer yes to too many of those questions and the Oppo route starts making more sense. It's just that we think "Need analog outs?" isn't enough on its own.
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But stepping away from the Oppo answer, is anyone making a sub-$200 BD player with analog out?
At that point it's a completely different conversation.

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New? Not likely.

If you're shopping for used/old, though, you should have lots of options.

Analog video went away by Blu-ray mandate this year, and analog audio is just hitching a ride on that train to obsolescence. I don't see anyone but boutique manufacturers providing it in the future, which means it'll be expensive from here on out.
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If you are seeking a new Blu-ray player, we ask that you use the official Help Me CHoose a Player thread. There have been many recommendations in that thread.

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I ordered the Panasonic 320 because I need analog outputs for Zone 2. Great player all around. Still available on Amazon.
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I ordered the Panasonic 320 because I need analog outputs for Zone 2. Great player all around. Still available on Amazon.

The 320 I find on Amazon doesn't have analog output according to the chart of features.
Interesting Amazon is showing the DMP-BDT500 for half price right now. Panasonic still lists it on their page... which is weird since it is a 2012 model.

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It does. I own one. Incredible picture and sound from this unit.
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To be clear, masbama, you are talking about analog 7.1 audio output lines and the DMP-BDT320? I can find no evidence that this is true.

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The 320 has 2-channel audio analog out, but not 7.1 analog out.
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For a list of older / discontinued models that support 5.1 or 7.1 analog out, see the Bluray Player Audio Support Comparison Chart thread and (specifically) Google spreadsheet. Last updated Jan 14, 2012.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1050507/bluray-player-audio-support-comparison-chart#post_14323698

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p95f5etXQAytqgDK0LbPOMQ

It's probably easier to read the first "locked" sheet, "All-2012.01.14", than the "editable" sheet.

edit: here are a few players with original list prices of $400 that supported 7.1 analog out: Panasonic DMP-BD55, Panasonic DMP-BD80, Pioneer BDP-320, Sony BDP-S550 (and a number of higher players from Pioneer and Sony also).
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Im looking for BluRay player with cinch multichannel output which is... around 6cm height (max). Does it EXIST?
(i dont have much space under tv and i dont necessary want to change AVR)
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Im looking for BluRay player with cinch multichannel output which is... around 6cm height (max). Does it EXIST?
(i dont have much space under tv and i dont necessary want to change AVR)

The Samsung BD-F7500 is 4.6 cm, has multi channel outputs. Check the thread about it to get its reputation, Samsungs have had issues before.
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