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Hello, I'm not really sure if it's OK to ask here but does anyone know if there is any other bluray player that has the same features as the Oppo 103d as far as upconverting to 1080p, for example hooking the cable box and setting up in native resolution and letting the Oppo upconvert to 1080p?
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Hello, I'm not really sure if it's OK to ask here but does anyone know if there is any other bluray player that has the same features as the Oppo 103d as far as upconverting to 1080p, for example hooking the cable box and setting up in native resolution and letting the Oppo upconvert to 1080p?
Try this thread: OFFICIAL "HELP ME CHOOSE A PLAYER" THREAD: Can't decide? Start HERE.

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I own an Oppo 103d which a have connected to 4K, but I would like get another player that has the capabilities of upconverting to 1080p just as the Oppo for my bedroom set.
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^ If you don't find another player, you can always rely on your tv to up-convert most standard video formats to its native video resolution, which is most likely 1080p.
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I own an Oppo 103d which a have connected to 4K, but I would like get another player that has the capabilities of upconverting to 1080p just as the Oppo for my bedroom set.
If you want another OPPO you can ask here. If you want a different brand you need to ask elsewhere.

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I own an Oppo 103d which a have connected to 4K, but I would like get another player that has the capabilities of upconverting to 1080p just as the Oppo for my bedroom set.
Many people use the OPPO 103D with 1080p TVs. I.e., you don't HAVE TO connect it to a 4K TV.

Or you could look on-line for a used OPPO BDP-93 or even a BDP-83 -- i.e., their prior generation players.

Understand that if you are playing Blu-ray movies, the content on disc is ALREADY 1080p. So the up-scaling of resolution in the player would only apply if playing, for example, standard definition DVD discs.

If your intent is to play just Blu-ray discs, there are of course lots of less expensive Blu-ray players out there as well.
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Had sky satellite 1080i source installed today. Can't watch it without running it through darbee. It's made a massive difference here.

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Oppo 103d with marantz receiver sr5007 configuration
Hello all,

My first post on avsforum, excited to to be a port of the forum

I just got my oppo 103d region free bluray. I have some questions regarding my set-up.

1) Manufacturing date of my oppo 103d is 12/02/2014. When i connect it to internet it shows that there is a firmware update available, should i upgrade my firmware? Will it harm my REGION FREE hack that i got with my player itself?

2) I've connected oppo with my marantz sr5007. For audio, should i send lpcm or bitstream to my marantz? If oppo's decoding dolby/dts is much better than receiver's, isn't it better to send pcm of receiver? My 80% viewing would be hd ripped files, sometimes sd files too. Keeping that also in mind, which option is better?

3) I know this must have been asked a thousand times but i've to ask. IDEAL setting for darbee?? I have epson 8100 3d projector (also known as epson 6010) as the display device. Screen size - 110 inches. Viewing distance - about 10 feet.

Awaiting much appreciated suggestions.

Thank you and have a good day!
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Oppo 103d with marantz receiver sr5007 configuration
Hello all,

My first post on avsforum, excited to to be a port of the forum

I just got my oppo 103d region free bluray. I have some questions regarding my set-up.

1) Manufacturing date of my oppo 103d is 12/02/2014. When i connect it to internet it shows that there is a firmware update available, should i upgrade my firmware? Will it harm my REGION FREE hack that i got with my player itself?

2) I've connected oppo with my marantz sr5007. For audio, should i send lpcm or bitstream to my marantz? If oppo's decoding dolby/dts is much better than receiver's, isn't it better to send pcm of receiver? My 80% viewing would be hd ripped files, sometimes sd files too. Keeping that also in mind, which option is better?

3) I know this must have been asked a thousand times but i've to ask. IDEAL setting for darbee?? I have epson 8100 3d projector (also known as epson 6010) as the display device. Screen size - 110 inches. Viewing distance - about 10 feet.

Awaiting much appreciated suggestions.

Thank you and have a good day!
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1. There are different types of hardware mod. Best to ask the vendor who sold it to you.

2. You should get identical results, unless some bug or feature in the receiver treats bitstream and LPCM differently. See this old entry in the BDP-83 FAQ for more: Should I perform audio decoding in the player or in the receiver?

3. There is no universal ideal. It is a subjective setting. Using HiDef at 35 or 40% is a popular choice here. Live with that a while and then try other values (including OFF) to see how it looks to you.

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do you know if I can change the colour of the subtitles ?

I have a ZT60 and it has IR issues because of the subtitles

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do you know if I can change the colour of the subtitles ?

I have a ZT60 and it has IR issues because of the subtitles

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DVD and Blu-ray subtitles: no.

Text subtitles in media file containers: yes.

You can shift the subtitles up and down to spread wear and tear on your pixels.

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do you know if I can change the colour of the subtitles ?

I have a ZT60 and it has IR issues because of the subtitles

thanks!
As Bill mentions you can shift the subs on the screen. But ALL plasmas show minor IR, and its by no means something to worry about. Unless you pause an image for hours, it won't do any harm.
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A question for the Oppo insiders.......has there been any discussions about the possibility of including Dolby Atmos decoding in a future Firmware Update or are we looking at having new hardware to support this ?
Quite a few Brands have now released Dolby Atmos AVR's but have clearly stated that the BD Disks will need to be decoded in a Player first . Hopefully , Oppo will be the first to offer such decoding in a Player .
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Very good question. I was wondering the same.
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I have no inside info, but that gimmick* really needs to be handled by the receiver, meaning any bitstreaming source would work. If the AVR people aren't doing it: hell with it.

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A question for the Oppo insiders.......has there been any discussions about the possibility of including Dolby Atmos decoding in a future Firmware Update or are we looking at having new hardware to support this ?
Quite a few Brands have now released Dolby Atmos AVR's but have clearly stated that the BD Disks will need to be decoded in a Player first . Hopefully , Oppo will be the first to offer such decoding in a Player .
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This is incorrect. All Blu-Ray players that are fully HDMI 1.3 compliant can play a Blu-Ray disc w/ an Atmos soundtrack. If you bitstream the audio from the Blu-Ray player to an Atmos-capable receiver then the receiver will do the decoding and rendering of the object-based audio. If you try to decode an Atmos soundtrack in a Blu-Ray player or bitstream the audio to a receiver that is not Atmos-capable then you will only get the base 5.1/7.1 Dolby TrueHD soundtrack and the object-based audio will be discarded.

While it might be possible (however unlikely) to create a firmware update that would enable an Oppo to actually be able to render the object-based portion of the soundtrack (rather than completely ignore it), which would require a way of telling the Oppo what your speakers settings are, I don't know how useful this would be since you can't physically make that many analog connections to the Oppo, nor can you pass more than 8 channels of PCM audio to an external processor using HDMI. Technically, HDMI 2.0 should be capable of doing this, but I don't know of any audio devices that have made use of this feature yet.
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OPPO Video quality vs plain Blu-ray players

Hello, I'm not really sure if it's OK to ask here, but I’ve read lots of great things about OPPO, so I ordered the OPPO BDP-103D Blu-ray Disc Player. However I can see no video quality difference between the OPPO BDP-103D and my old Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player. Very disappointed, I was expecting the OPPO player to have much better video than my old Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player. What am I doing wrong?

My setup is:
Sony Projector VPL-VW50 (capable of 1080p 24 frames).
Stewart G3 firehawk 123” Screen
Denon AVR X3000
OPPO BDP-103D
(and Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player)
I even tried hooking the OPPO and Panasonic Blu-Ray players directly to the Sony projector, to make sure the Denon AVR was not doing something to the Video.

I tried the following 4 Blu-Ray movies
The Bourne Supremacy
21 Jump Street
Her
Gravity
Are these movies poor Blu-Ray quality movies? What Blu-Ray movies should I be trying?
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Hello, I'm not really sure if it's OK to ask here, but I’ve read lots of great things about OPPO, so I ordered the OPPO BDP-103D Blu-ray Disc Player. However I can see no video quality difference between the OPPO BDP-103D and my old Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player. Very disappointed, I was expecting the OPPO player to have much better video than my old Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player. What am I doing wrong?
Your expectations were incorrect. If you had asked here or in the "Help Me Choose" thread we would have told you that Blu-ray performance is very similar between players.

Are you calibrating your display? That will make a greater difference than swapping gear. What is your viewing distance?

Darbee processing adds extra value, but it is a subtle effect when used properly.

The player has a 30-day return if you are unhappy with it.

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Yes expectations to high. As many others are also. Mine included. Video wise 9 out of 10 people will not notice a difference. But if it is peace of mind and features your after the oppo is the one to get imho. And if it was time for an upgrade keep it you wont find better for the money.
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Hello, I'm not really sure if it's OK to ask here, but I’ve read lots of great things about OPPO, so I ordered the OPPO BDP-103D Blu-ray Disc Player. However I can see no video quality difference between the OPPO BDP-103D and my old Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player. Very disappointed, I was expecting the OPPO player to have much better video than my old Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player. What am I doing wrong?

My setup is:
Sony Projector VPL-VW50 (capable of 1080p 24 frames).
Stewart G3 firehawk 123” Screen
Denon AVR X3000
OPPO BDP-103D
(and Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player)
I even tried hooking the OPPO and Panasonic Blu-Ray players directly to the Sony projector, to make sure the Denon AVR was not doing something to the Video.

I tried the following 4 Blu-Ray movies
The Bourne Supremacy
21 Jump Street
Her
Gravity
Are these movies poor Blu-Ray quality movies? What Blu-Ray movies should I be trying?

I just got my 103d last week and love it over my older Sony. There is a very faint improvement. The Darbee for me adds that extra benefit with the Oppo. This was one of the selling points for me. But used with the right amount makes it a great player. Besides, I know I have the best player out there.
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This is incorrect. All Blu-Ray players that are fully HDMI 1.3 compliant can play a Blu-Ray disc w/ an Atmos soundtrack. If you bitstream the audio from the Blu-Ray player to an Atmos-capable receiver then the receiver will do the decoding and rendering of the object-based audio. If you try to decode an Atmos soundtrack in a Blu-Ray player or bitstream the audio to a receiver that is not Atmos-capable then you will only get the base 5.1/7.1 Dolby TrueHD soundtrack and the object-based audio will be discarded.

While it might be possible (however unlikely) to create a firmware update that would enable an Oppo to actually be able to render the object-based portion of the soundtrack (rather than completely ignore it), which would require a way of telling the Oppo what your speakers settings are, I don't know how useful this would be since you can't physically make that many analog connections to the Oppo, nor can you pass more than 8 channels of PCM audio to an external processor using HDMI. Technically, HDMI 2.0 should be capable of doing this, but I don't know of any audio devices that have made use of this feature yet.
Thank you . I'm glad I was miss-informed concerning the requirement of the BD Player . This makes the process and the decision making even easier . I appreciate your answer .
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Hello, I'm not really sure if it's OK to ask here, but I’ve read lots of great things about OPPO, so I ordered the OPPO BDP-103D Blu-ray Disc Player. However I can see no video quality difference between the OPPO BDP-103D and my old Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player. Very disappointed, I was expecting the OPPO player to have much better video than my old Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player. What am I doing wrong?

My setup is:
Sony Projector VPL-VW50 (capable of 1080p 24 frames).
Stewart G3 firehawk 123” Screen
Denon AVR X3000
OPPO BDP-103D
(and Panasonic DMP-BDT110 Blu-Ray player)
I even tried hooking the OPPO and Panasonic Blu-Ray players directly to the Sony projector, to make sure the Denon AVR was not doing something to the Video.

I tried the following 4 Blu-Ray movies
The Bourne Supremacy
21 Jump Street
Her
Gravity
Are these movies poor Blu-Ray quality movies? What Blu-Ray movies should I be trying?
The most important thing to do before trying to judge video quality is to see to it that you projector is properly calibrated for video. Spend some quality time with a calibration disc, or bring in a professional (an ISF Tech) to do it for you. If the projector is not set up properly, its errors in rendering the video will mask most differences in source quality. As for the OPPO itself, leave all its Picture Adjustment controls at the factory default (0) values -- the OPPO sends out "reference" HDMI video levels when set that way. Make any necessary video adjustments in your Projector instead of in the OPPO. Keep in mind that settings in the Projector are likely remembered "per input", so be sure to check that you've got things set correctly for the video input from the OPPO. Also keep in mind that the best settings in the projector for your other player may very well NOT be the best settings to use with the OPPO.

Modern Displays are very sensitive to being set up correctly. I.e., the difference between "right" and "nearly right" is a lot bigger than it used to be with traditional TVs.

In the Blu-ray Software forum here you'll find discussion threads listing Blu-ray disc titles that are rated highly for video quality and for audio quality.
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Anyone here use this player with one of Samsungs new 4k TVs? I'm getting a new HU9000 and what to upgrade my player also. Used an Oppo 83 for years, when it went cheaped out on a Panasonic (need the analog audio outputs).Would love to go back to Oppo.

If so, which converter do you use for BD, the one in the player, or in the TV?
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Anyone here use this player with one of Samsungs new 4k TVs? I'm getting a new HU9000 and what to upgrade my player also. Used an Oppo 83 for years, when it went cheaped out on a Panasonic (need the analog audio outputs).Would love to go back to Oppo.

If so, which converter do you use for BD, the one in the player, or in the TV?
You'll want to bring this up in a dedicated forum for your display. From what's been posted thus far, it seems that some 4K displays are pretty bad at processing a 4K input. Meaning that feeding it 1080p will get you a better picture.There are a number of good reason for this that have to do with the VP chip used in the TV. Bottom line is you should use which ever 4K scaling looks best for you.
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You'll want to bring this up in a dedicated forum for your display. From what's been posted thus far, it seems that some 4K displays are pretty bad at processing a 4K input. Meaning that feeding it 1080p will get you a better picture.There are a number of good reason for this that have to do with the VP chip used in the TV. Bottom line is you should use which ever 4K scaling looks best for you.
Thanks, did that, got the recommendation to let the TV do the up converting. So ordered the regular 103, and will use the extra cash to go to the soundbar that I will probably need.

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Hi-
I've read a lot of posts in this thread and but have spotted anyone talking about if it is a good idea to use the 103d as a video processor?
I know it can be done, but I'd like to hear from those of you who have tried it. I have used a DVDO Edge almost since they first came out and really like having a video processor. Is the Oppo good enough as a VP that I no longer need the Edge?

I'm thinking I can get a good HDMI switcher and plug its output into the 103d's HDMI input. I assume that one downside to this will be along the lines that my cable TV box will require different settings than my Roku, but other than that is this workable? I've got 5 devices that I'd like the splitter to be sending to the Oppo.

Is there any problem always running the Oppo whenever we have the projector on (approximately 2000 hours a year)?

I'll be using one of the 103d's HDMI outputs to go to my projector and the other to send the audio to my old Denon receiver.

Thanks for any input.
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I've read a lot of posts in this thread and but have spotted anyone talking about if it is a good idea to use the 103d as a video processor?
I know it can be done, but I'd like to hear from those of you who have tried it. I have used a DVDO Edge almost since they first came out and really like having a video processor. Is the Oppo good enough as a VP that I no longer need the Edge?

I'm thinking I can get a good HDMI switcher and plug its output into the 103d's HDMI input. I assume that one downside to this will be along the lines that my cable TV box will require different settings than my Roku, but other than that is this workable? I've got 5 devices that I'd like the splitter to be sending to the Oppo.

Is there any problem always running the Oppo whenever we have the projector on (approximately 2000 hours a year)?

I'll be using one of the 103d's HDMI outputs to go to my projector and the other to send the audio to my old Denon receiver.

Thanks for any input.
Many folks prefer the Edge for scaling DVD, but the differences are smaller than they used to be.

Frankly, I think that the gain from routing everything through the Oppo - with the potential HDMI issues from using a switch - isn't worth the trouble. But you can satisfy yourself whether you really gain much.
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