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hmm... I guess the review site was wrong on the specs. Thanks for the correction.
I couldn't say if there are different versions of that disc floating around. But the Oppo can tell you what's playing via OSD.
Have you tried ripping those HR tracks and playing from USB? (I'll assume you know how)
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what tv and avr do you have? so if we bypass the avr receiver we can get a better picture? on my new samsung 4k 8550 tv i have been using the oppo 4k upscale because its much better than the sammy 4k upscale. but by bypassing the avr, isnt there some sort of loss of sound decoding by the avr? is an optical cord needed or can HDMI cords be used instead?
I bought a Sony XBR-70x850B, but am currently using a loaner 86" while awaiting delivery of my 70". My AVR is a 7 year old Pioneer Elite VSX-92TXH,

Actually, all audio is send via HDMI2 out from the OPPO to the AVR and processed and output with my set-up. The Dish STB and Apple TV are fed directly to the AVR and pass HDMI video to the OPPO. The HD-DVD player is fed directly to the Oppo and passes audio to the AVR via HDMI OUT2. Blu-rays and other content from the Oppo also go to the AVR as well as ARC from the TV.

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I have a copy of that DVD-A. The stereo high-res tracks are 24/192, the 5.1 is 24/96. Could be that your AVR cannot accept 24/192. I have no issues playing that disc here, both type tracks play fine.
Hmmm, I'm using a Denon 4520. Assume that it will handle this 24/192 since it has 32/192 capability I believe.
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I couldn't say if there are different versions of that disc floating around. But the Oppo can tell you what's playing via OSD.
Have you tried ripping those HR tracks and playing from USB? (I'll assume you know how)
Nope - don't have the disk, which is why I resorted to a review site. I've ripped DVD-A's to my NAS, but only the multichannel tracks.
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Hmmm, I'm using a Denon 4520. Assume that it will handle this 24/192 since it has 32/192 capability I believe.
Well, there's no issue here with that disc, so the AVR is the main suspect. Try some 24/192 files on a USB drive and see what happens.
There's some free test files here: http://www.2l.no/ , on the page called "test bench" in the drop-down on the top.

FWIW, the AVR having a 32/192 DAC has no bearing on what it can handle for input. And again the Oppo can tell you what its sending on the OSD.
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Well, there's no issue here with that disc, so the AVR is the main suspect. Try some 24/192 files on a USB drive and see what happens.
There's some free test files here: http://www.2l.no/ , on the page called "test bench" in the drop-down on the top.

FWIW, the AVR having a 32/192 DAC has no bearing on what it can handle for input. And again the Oppo can tell you what its sending on the OSD.
What AVR/Processor are you using it with?
I'm not sure I care that much to listen to it in this 2 channel mode but assume I could use the analog inputs if I really wanted to otherwise.
I've been in touch with Oppo and they've offered to look into it if I send them the disc.
I'm not sure I would want to do that since that disc isn't available any longer and is at a premium price to replace.

Thanks for your input, I appreciate the responses.
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What AVR/Processor are you using it with?
I'm not sure I care that much to listen to it in this 2 channel mode but assume I could use the analog inputs if I really wanted to otherwise.
I've been in touch with Oppo and they've offered to look into it if I send them the disc.
I'm not sure I would want to do that since that disc isn't available any longer and is at a premium price to replace.

Thanks for your input, I appreciate the responses.
I use a Yamaha which accepts 24/192 on HDMI, as most should. Note that 24/192 can only be stereo, 5.1 is not possible.

Oppo support can only really tell you if the disc itself is faulty somehow, because it does work for others. I'd prefer it if you provide a detailed explanation of what exactly happens when you try to play the 2-ch tracks. What do you see on screen, what does the OSD say, and what does the front panel display say? Does the AVR indicate that it's receiving anything?
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Very good forum leafing through the knowledgeable comments. I've got a 103D on order, not shipped yet, to take a look vs. the 103 to use with a Samsung 46" F8000. Something said here, probably misunderstood, makes me want to double check about Darbee and audio while I still have the time. For audio, I use a PS Audio PerfectWave dac. Since it doesn't take HDMI, I plan to run a coax line instead. Darbee deals with video but does S/PDIF for audio have any effect on the ability to use it? Thanks,

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Very good forum leafing through the knowledgeable comments. I've got a 103D on order, not shipped yet, to take a look vs. the 103 to use with a Samsung 46" F8000. Something said here, probably misunderstood, makes me want to double check about Darbee and audio while I still have the time. For audio, I use a PS Audio PerfectWave dac. Since it doesn't take HDMI, I plan to run coax instead. Darbee deals with video but does a coax line for audio have any effect on the ability to use it? Thanks,
No, using coax for audio will not have any effect on the video portion of your playback material.
However, do realize that you will not be able to take full advantage of things like SACD and
lossless audio from Blu-ray by using coax.
For lossless audio (IE: DTS HD/MA, Dolby TrueHD, etc...), you will get a high bitrate core audio track over the coax output,
which should still sound pretty good, just not as good as a lossless audio track.
This scenario is true for all Blu-ray players, because the coax and/or optical outputs just don't have the capability of
handling the bandwidth that lossless audio is, thus the need for using HDMi or ANALOG audio to hear it.

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Thanks. I don't have any SACD discs and Blu-ray makes up a fairly small part of what I play, so it won't be a big loss, and I had noticed the limitations you mention in the Oppo's specs. It'd be nice if Oppo added an I2S port, but from what I understand the cost of HDMI licensing is already substantial (it's why PS Audio dacs don't have HDMI, although they use the its physical format). More than audio, however, it's the value of $118 extra for Darbee on a 46" screen, an already very good one, that's been on my mind.

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Thanks. I don't have any SACD discs and Blu-ray makes up a fairly small part of what I play, so it won't be a big loss, and I had noticed the limitations you mention in the Oppo's specs. It'd be nice if Oppo added an I2S port, but from what I understand the cost of HDMI licensing is already substantial (it's why PS Audio dacs don't have HDMI, although they use the its physical format). More than audio, however, it's the value of $118 extra for Darbee on a 46" screen, an already very good one, that's been on my mind.
How close are you sitting?
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Possibly an improvement if you have good eyesight.
Like most say, it will be a subtle improvement.
65" size and up will probably see a more noticeable improvement.
On my 2008 50" Panny plasma it was very subtle and now with my 80" I think I see more improvement.

I need to play with some settings to see how much more if any I can improve.
I'm still on about 35% on the HiDef setting.
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Other than DVDs, I watch a lot of movies, TV programs and occasionally a sporting event via a USB stick or HDD (plus listen to music of course). Typically 720p HD mkv files, with some avi and mp4.
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